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Jan 20, 2022 at 4:23pm
Dennis_Seelbach said: drummerboy said: Smedley said:Why are they so stupid? Because their views don't match yours?I love the smell of intolerance in the morning.  why are they so stupid?If you have to ask that, I can't explain it.and be careful - you're starting to sound like mt. As do you when you refer to Cooperman. well, that's due an explanation.how do I sound like mt?

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Jan 18, 2022 at 3:26pm
PeterWick said:Joe D vs Cooperman - compare and contrast. Am I correct in saying that Cooperman is at least using his own money to plaster his name? Maybe his face in a few places but not as much as Joe D. Is Joe D. having things named after him for perpetuity?

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Jan 18, 2022 at 11:51am
Jasmo said:While it's true that Cooperman is showing off by plastering his name all over the place, that egotistical display is tempered by all the good his charity is doing.  Certainly his attacks on Obama, and including Hitler in the same message was horrible, but on the other hand, he has pledged to give his entire fortune away before he dies.  Egotistical charity is worse than anonymous charity, but better than no charity.  People who need to call attention to themselves certainly have self-esteem issues for which they try to compensate, but that does not entirely negate the good things that they do.  I suspect even us posters show a bit of such traits sometimes ourselves. as is common with men (and it's always men) who make fortunes, they try to whitewash (or temper) their personal histories through philanthropy.Someone mentioned Andrew Carnegie earlier and his wonderful philanthropy. Unfortunately, Mr. Carnegie was not a wonderful man, but that's never talked about.Mission accomplished.

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Jan 18, 2022 at 11:45am
nohero said: drummerboy said: let me ask you this - how many Cooperman named places do there need to be before you say, hmm, maybe this is too much? Do you think there are too many places to which he donated money? Or are the donations okay so long as his name isn't associated with them? I have no problem with the donations. He said he's going to give away his money and that's fine.I just find the egotism of plastering his name on them insufferable.

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Jan 18, 2022 at 9:00am
cramer said:drummerboy said:cramer said:The JSDD Cooperman Family Campus is the new home of  the Jewish Service for the  Developmentally Disabled. The Cooperman's donated $2.5 million of the $10 million cost. I'm sorry that you're offended by the Cooperman name on the new facility. I'm glad that you enjoy the squash courts at the JCC in spite of it being named for the Coopermans.  "JSDD’s history/mission began in 1984 with the formation of the Commission on Individuals with Developmental Disabilities. In 1989, the first kosher group home was purchased and renovated in Millburn, New Jersey. An additional eleven homes have been added including two supervised apartments. In October of 2004, JSDD opened the doors of The WAE (Wellness, Arts & Enrichment) Center, an alternative learning program providing opportunities for people with developmental and acquired disabilities to develop skills and cultivate self-esteem while tapping unknown talents and creating new possibilities for artistic pursuits, wellness endeavors and enrichment activities. Opportunities at the Center have all been developed embracing the belief that learning, creativity and spirituality are a lifelong journey which is different and unique for everyone." boy do you not get it. What I get is that you're a hypocrite. You criticize Cooperman for having his name on the JCC, and yet you play squash there  first of all, that's a ridiculous definition of hypocrisy. secondly, it's racquetball, not squash. thirdly, I quit the JCC years ago, because even with all that Cooperman money, they couldn't manage to maintain the courts. let me ask you this - how many Cooperman named places do there need to be before you say, hmm, maybe this is too much?

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Jan 18, 2022 at 8:14am
cramer said:The JSDD Cooperman Family Campus is the new home of  the Jewish Service for the  Developmentally Disabled. The Cooperman's donated $2.5 million of the $10 million cost. I'm sorry that you're offended by the Cooperman name on the new facility. I'm glad that you enjoy the squash courts at the JCC in spite of it being named for the Coopermans.  "JSDD’s history/mission began in 1984 with the formation of the Commission on Individuals with Developmental Disabilities. In 1989, the first kosher group home was purchased and renovated in Millburn, New Jersey. An additional eleven homes have been added including two supervised apartments. In October of 2004, JSDD opened the doors of The WAE (Wellness, Arts & Enrichment) Center, an alternative learning program providing opportunities for people with developmental and acquired disabilities to develop skills and cultivate self-esteem while tapping unknown talents and creating new possibilities for artistic pursuits, wellness endeavors and enrichment activities. Opportunities at the Center have all been developed embracing the belief that learning, creativity and spirituality are a lifelong journey which is different and unique for everyone." boy do you not get it.

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Jan 17, 2022 at 11:40pm
cramer said: drummerboy said: jamie said:would you feel the same if Meryl Streep donated the same and called it Streep Barnabas? similarly, but not the same. a lot of it has to do with my antipathy towards Cooperman and the fact that his name is cropping up all over as a result of his giving. Obviously I have no antipathy towards Streep ( though I doubt she has 100 mil to toss around). But if she was just buying her name for selfish reasons, as I believe Cooperman did, I wouldn't look kindly on it. Where is his name cropping up all over other than the hospital and the JCC (where I think you play squash)? the other place I noticed recently is on Eisenhower Parkway. I think it's called the JSDD Cooperman Family Campus.so 4 (that I know of) in one town = all over the place. for me  anyway.(Cooperman Pavilion and the Barnabas rename counts as 2)

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Jan 17, 2022 at 6:25pm
jamie said:would you feel the same if Meryl Streep donated the same and called it Streep Barnabas? similarly, but not the same. a lot of it has to do with my antipathy towards Cooperman and the fact that his name is cropping up all over as a result of his giving. Obviously I have no antipathy towards Streep ( though I doubt she has 100 mil to toss around). But if she was just buying her name for selfish reasons, as I believe Cooperman did, I wouldn't look kindly on it.

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Jan 17, 2022 at 6:10pm
yeah, maybe not if the hospital doesn't really need it.Cooperman doesn't want his name on a hospital in Newark.that's the problem with philanthropy. the rich often just get richer, if the donor's motives are just self-aggrandizement.

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Jan 17, 2022 at 5:19pm
sbenois said:The man is paying his taxes.  Go complain to everyone in Congress if you don't think he is paying his fair share.  You seem to be pushing on the wrong end of the string. please. he's part of the cohort that pulls the Congress's strings.besides, my complaint is not about taxes. it's about his ego and his shoving his name in my face.he's got more than 2 bil to give away. If 100 mil renames Barnabas, what's the other 2 bil gonna do?Cooperman-ville might not be a joke.

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Jan 17, 2022 at 4:15pm
sbenois said:Yes he does.  And he has been consistent about it.  And I have never heard him talk about how unfair it would be to him and his family.     That's because he simply doesn't believe in fairness.https://www.huffpost.com/entry/leon-cooperman-twitter-jeers-fair-share_n_601327ddc5b653f644d21a24Twitter Users Jeer Billionaire's Gripe About Not Paying 'Fair Share' Of Taxes Leon Cooperman ranted on CNBC that the idea of a "fair share" is a "**** concept" that just attacks wealthy people.

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Jan 17, 2022 at 8:31am
cramer said:db -  You don't like Cooperman and for that reason dismiss all of the contributions that he has made over the years. You've used Cooperman Barnabas (nee St. Barnabas) several times in the last few years. You're always free to use another hospital if you don't like it being named after Cooperman.  not exactly. I just find it offensive that he's plastering his name all over the place, as if he was someone important. There's nothing impressive about buying a legacy.and sure, the fact that I think much of his politics and worldview are abhorrent doesn't help.

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Jan 17, 2022 at 8:27am
cramer said:"The Coopermans, who live and have raised their family in Essex County, have an extensive history of philanthropy in a number of areas, but to this Barnabas facility in particular. The couple has donated more than 100 times to the medical center previously, including a $25 million gift in 2014 that provided the catalyst for a vast expansion of the hospital."............."This ($100 million) gift is not connected to a particular project, but RWJBarnabas Health CEO Barry Ostrowsky told ROI-NJ the donation will have both immediate and long-lasting impact. “Like all businesses, we have a strategic plan,” he said. “Ours includes new facilities, the recruitment of new clinicians, the expansion of academic teaching, the expansion of social programs — all the things we need to do to pursue our mission. “When you infuse $100 million into executing that plan, you get to accelerate all of that. And you get to ensure that it’s not just some vision in a loose-leaf binder somewhere, that it’s really an operating model that will ultimately get you the success on the mission.”https://www.roi-nj.com/2021/09/30/healthcare/rwjbh-to-rename-flagship-facility-cooperman-barnabas-medical-center-in-honor-of-historic-100m-donation/ what's your point, other than showing that I was right about the contribution not being earmarked for anything special - hence, no "creation".

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Jan 16, 2022 at 4:33pm
cramer said:One of the most famous hospitals in the world: "The Sloan-Kettering Institute for Cancer Research (SKI) was established on August 8, 1945. A gift of $4 million from Alfred P. Sloan, Jr., Chairman of General Motors and a trustee on the board of Memorial Hospital, provided the initial funds for the construction of the institute and its early operating costs. Engineer Charles F. Kettering — Director of Research at GM as well as inventor of the key-operated ignition switch and anti-knock gasoline — was the institute’s co-founder. He served as a member of SKI’s Committee on Scientific Policy for many years."https://www.mskcc.org/research/ski/about/history#:~:text=The%20Sloan%2DKettering%20Institute%20for,and%20its%20early%20operating%20costs. here's the difference. Sloan and Kettering founded the hospital.  They created something.Cooperman is creating nothing. He's buying billboards.

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Jan 16, 2022 at 4:31pm
cramer said:db - Is renaming St. Barnabas Cooper Barnabas any different than the colleges and universities that name buildings and programs after large donors or other hospitals that name their facilities after large donors?btw - Cooperman has vowed to give away his entire wealth to charities.   It's one thing to have one thing named after you.It's another to have many.

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Jan 16, 2022 at 2:08pm
Redfruit said: drummerboy said:The billionaire is plastering his name all over the place. St. Barnabas has been renamed to Cooperman Barnabas Medical Center.That cost him a 100 mil.ego much Leon?bleh outstanding job by the Coopermans. The largest figure ever donated to a NJ hospital. Not sure what you find so offensive.  he's clearly donating money so that he can get his name on things for perpetuity. Barnabas is not the only example.kind of sociopathic, if you ask me.

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Jan 16, 2022 at 1:31pm
The billionaire is plastering his name all over the place. St. Barnabas has been renamed to Cooperman Barnabas Medical Center.That cost him a 100 mil.ego much Leon?bleh

Leon Cooperman - another example of a (local) billionaire being a moron. Plus, his new wing at St. Barn sucks. Edited

Dec 7, 2017 at 8:59pm
Here's the link , in case you need to read his words of doofus.https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/07/leon-cooperman-if-hillary-clinton-won-the-us-would-be-in-a-recession.html

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Nov 12, 2012 at 5:19pm
BCC said:drummerboy said:good article on the mindset of the .01% http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/08/121008fa_fact_freeland?currentPage=all Leon Cooperman, the main character in the article, donated a ton of money to the JCC in WO. It's just amazing the kind of self-delusion these guys operate under. What does donating a ton of money to the JCC have to do with self-delusion? er, nothing? Simply pointing out a local connection. The delusions are explained in the article.

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Nov 11, 2012 at 3:36pm
good article on the mindset of the .01% http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/08/121008fa_fact_freeland?currentPage=all Leon Cooperman, the main character in the article, donated a ton of money to the JCC in WO. It's just amazing the kind of self-delusion these guys operate under.

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