phenixrising said:
It's not so much the money, their ego's and pride were crushed and defeated.
RonwellQuincyDobbs said:
I think its a shame that so much $$ was spent and we pretty much ended up w/ the exact same government we have now. There were billions spent. And how much on Television Advertising? What is the mentality of someone who would change their vote because of a TV commercial? If you stop to think about these things, its actually quite terrifying. I'm assuming they are effective. Otherwise they wouldn't run so many.
ktc said:
How much money did people like Sheldon Adelson and Donald Trump and the Koch Brothers put up based on bad information? And if most rational regular people (you know, 538 readers) knew the information they were using was bad, how did these billionaires not know? Makes you wonder how they got so rich in the first place.
And think of how much money these people spent to not have to pay more in taxes. Maybe more than they would be taxed.
At least we got to see the public breakdown of Karl Rove, who probably isn't getting much more from these low-information billionaires...
windy said:
I said it would be a landslide. It was.
LOST said:
It wasn't a landslide. It was fairly close and Obama won, which was always the most likely scenario.
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windy said:
LOST said:
It wasn't a landslide. It was fairly close and Obama won, which was always the most likely scenario.
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332 to 206 looks like a landslide to me.
nohero said:
In the 2012 election, President Obama has a 51% to 48% popular vote advantage as of this morning, and he's been declared the winner of 332 electoral votes, to 206.
LOST said:
windy said:
LOST said:
It wasn't a landslide. It was fairly close and Obama won, which was always the most likely scenario.
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332 to 206 looks like a landslide to me.
The overall popular vote was close. The vote by which Obama won each of the "swing States" was close.
nohero said:
In the 2012 election, President Obama has a 51% to 48% popular vote advantage as of this morning, and he's been declared the winner of 332 electoral votes, to 206.
And yet the TV talking heads, the "punditocracy" are all talking about Obama "moving to the Center" and "reaching out" to the Republicans.
Of course for all his talk of "winning political capital" George Bush didn't accomplish much in his second term.
ctrzaska said:
A "landslide" in electoral votes means little if not accompanied by a similar "landslide" in the popular vote. Actually, it means nothing.
ctrzaska said:
The electoral numbers count only to elect the president. And he won as a result.
Itself, the electoral college has no other impact other than that. It is not any gauge of overall public opinion, it is not any gauge of national divisiveness or unity, it is not any gauge of future presidential success or failure, it is not any gauge of congressional makeup, it is not any gauge of future congressional success or failure.
So, to recap... without any other factors considered it means nothing in the context of any silly and irrelevant conversations about "landslides" and "mandates". It didn't when Bush was elected and it doesn't now, regardless of the hilarious "If Bush can declare it so can we" argument.
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And think of how much money these people spent to not have to pay more in taxes. Maybe more than they would be taxed.
At least we got to see the public breakdown of Karl Rove, who probably isn't getting much more from these low-information billionaires...