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I needed to come back here and defend mtierney.  I haven't posted in a long time because quite frankly, I've been busier than a one-armed paper hanger.  My company makes MAGA hats (actually they're made in Vietnam), but we spec them out here and we do all our own marketing in-house.  We would have continued to be open for business but that idiot lib governor of ours doesn't consider us an "essential" business.  Of course he wouldn't, because he hates our president and he hates our customers.  Typical lib TDS BS.  So my friends and I have been gathering at each other's homes and shaking hands and bro-hugging, and all the stuff our nanny state governor is telling us not to do.  We take photos and email them to our lib friends.  Man does that trigger those snowflakes!

but anyway, I'm here to echo mtierney's sentiments regarding all of you lib's disgusting criticizing and carping at President Trump.  He's working 24/7 to keep us safe, and all you people do is complain and berate him.  I thank God every day he's our president instead of that disaster Obama.  You all are obviously rooting for people to get sick and die just to make our President look bad.  You're the kind of people if you had been on the Titanic, you'd be rooting for it to sink.  You'd be ******** about how the captain should have steered around that iceberg.  And you'd be saying someone should have planned more lifeboats.  As if anyone could have know a ship might sink.  Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd have been praying for the captain, and rooting for him to keep that ship afloat.

You all should be praying and rooting for our captain to keep our Titanic afloat.  It's the patriotic thing to do.

drummerboy said:

sure, but women don't need more than two squares for any one incident of the number one variety. that's barely a rounding error.

 Apparently there is no pandemic-related short supply of mansplaining.

drummerboy said:

Well, I think he's afraid because being for M4A brings up the bugaboo of people losing their wonderful private insurance, which, unfortunately, much of the electorate is fearful of.

To say nothing of the box he's painted himself into with the zillion-gazillion cost.

He has no choice before the election. Be hopeful that maybe he'll change after he's elected.

 so the worst public health disaster in a century doesn't even make him pause? Pretty much confirms my concern about him. It's like he's the second most unsuited man in America to be our next president. 

Each day that passes makes me more sad that our voters are too ******* stupid to have chosen Elizabeth Warren. 

Not me. I drive in a separate Civic.

When I’m about to make a turn in front of an SUV, I always use my virtue signal.

BG9 said:

Also sad we were lied to on the need for masks. Many believed that lie and now the price will have to be paid.

One way to get through this is to recognize a difference between lies and recommendations that change because new information or contingencies emerge. If experts can’t shift what they say because of what they see without being distrusted, we’re in even bigger trouble.

I just kept picturing my mum and grandmother hiding in a Parisian attic for years, with a small saucepan for their chamberpot, and some newspaper for TP if they were lucky, sneaking out at night to empty the pot. 
Thank Gd we don’t have that; there are all kinds of workable alternatives for a short while. 
i haven’t stopped filling a bucket of water ‘just in case’ each morning, though - I don’t fully trust the pipes again. 

cramer said:

Sheer incompetence on the part of the public officials who were telling people not to wear masks. If they didn't know, they should have known. Their advice cost lives, although to be fair, I don't know where people could have obtained masks. Of course, that in itself speaks to how screwed-up things are.

Incompetence, if that’s what you choose to call it, isn’t lies, either. The distinction remains important, in my opinion, because if you believe the experts got things wrong — whether because information changed or they just screwed up — you might still give them a chance to get things right. If you believe they lied, you undermine anything they do, and there’s not much hope.

DaveSchmidt said:

cramer said:

Sheer incompetence on the part of the public officials who were telling people not to wear masks. If they didn't know, they should have known. Their advice cost lives, although to be fair, I don't know where people could have obtained masks. Of course, that in itself speaks to how screwed-up things are.

Incompetence, if that’s what you choose to call it, isn’t lies, either. The distinction remains important, in my opinion, because if you believe the experts got things wrong — whether because information changed or they just screwed up — you might still give them a chance to get things right. If you believe they lied, you undermine anything they do, and there’s not much hope.

 In fairness, it's also true that competent well-meaning people in medicine and other fields often disagree with each other and form their opinions on often tentative and uncertain information, which is especially true in this crisis.  

jamie said:

For those who constantly point out the senility of Biden, I have challenged on multiple occasions to post a full interview/debate where this is apparent.

That Rasmussen article is embarrassingly bad - this is the main proof of Biden's dementia:

 It is neither necessary to scientifically determine whether the former vice president has dementia. On the other hand, you don't need an astronomer to know that the sun rises in the east. If you have encountered dementia, you know Joe Biden has it.

 It is my understanding that the Earth revolves around the Sun which does not move.

I corrected my typo. Please correct all subsequent posts quoting the above.

Thank you.

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