Some serious gaslighting (and libeling of a respected war correspondent) going on in Paul's post.
paulsurovell said:
nohero said:Falsehood
paulsurovell said:Tulsi doesn't make the distinctions among subsets of Islam.
So @sbenois has unloaded his pile of sleaze and distortions to insinuate that:
-- Anti-Salafist and Wahhabism is anti-Muslim
-- Fighting Al Qaeda is defending Putin
-- Nancy Pelosi shouldn't have had lunch with Assad
-- Sean Patrick Maloney (below), NY States's first LGBT member of Congress is full of sh_t
But with all this effort, @sbenois can't find the time to say one word of praise for his hero Janine di Giovanni for her excellent article on Israeli war crimes in Gaza. Why not?
nohero said:Didn't notice your concern (or @sbenois's) about US destruction of Raqqa, Syria, including all but one hospitals.
Bombing people in Syria isn't "fighting Al Qaeda" that attacked us on 9/11, no matter how many times
nohero said:Maybe Janine took my criticism to heart and decided to write a truthful article about the Middle East.
If Paul is so glowing in his review of Ms. di Giovanni's article, he should let her know on the Twitter.
Oh wait, he can't, based on the last thing she told him.
"Blocking you. I just can't read your idiocy anymore. It makes my blood boil at your ignorance. It's not about regime change. It's about saving civilian lives. If you can not see that, you are more moronic and complicit than those you support."
sbenois said:
Damning Twitter feed showing how Tulsi the Warmonger is anti-Muslim:
https://twitter.com/sameerakhan/status/1104988342129696768?lang=en
@SameeraKhan
Here is footage of Tulsi Gabbard vocally opposing the US F-16 sale to Pakistan in the House Armed Services Committee.
Towards the end, she refers to Kashmiri freedom fighters as terrorists and blames the #UriAttack on Pakistan w/o proof, in lockstep w/ the Indian government.
So you support the Kashmiri "freedom fighters" and want to send F-16s to Pakistan? And you oppose the Indian government?
nohero said:
nohero said:
paulsurovell said:
nohero said:Falsehood
paulsurovell said:Tulsi doesn't make the distinctions among subsets of Islam.
So @sbenois has unloaded his pile of sleaze and distortions to insinuate that:
-- Anti-Salafist and Wahhabism is anti-Muslim
-- Fighting Al Qaeda is defending Putin
-- Nancy Pelosi shouldn't have had lunch with Assad
-- Sean Patrick Maloney (below), NY States's first LGBT member of Congress is full of sh_t
But with all this effort, @sbenois can't find the time to say one word of praise for his hero Janine di Giovanni for her excellent article on Israeli war crimes in Gaza. Why not?
nohero said:Didn't notice your concern (or @sbenois's) about US destruction of Raqqa, Syria, including all but one hospitals.
Bombing people in Syria isn't "fighting Al Qaeda" that attacked us on 9/11, no matter how many times
nohero said:Maybe Janine took my criticism to heart and decided to write a truthful article about the Middle East.
If Paul is so glowing in his review of Ms. di Giovanni's article, he should let her know on the Twitter.
Oh wait, he can't, based on the last thing she told him.
"Blocking you. I just can't read your idiocy anymore. It makes my blood boil at your ignorance. It's not about regime change. It's about saving civilian lives. If you can not see that, you are more moronic and complicit than those you support."
Apparently no longer respected by @sbenois. Big Mouth won't give one word of praise for his hero's excellent article on Israeli war crimes in Gaza.
paulsurovell said:
Apparently no longer respected by @sbenois. Big Mouth won't give one word of praise for his hero's excellent article on Israeli war crimes in Gaza.
Paul appears to be stuck in a loop, repeating the same taunts over and over. Maybe someone can smack him on the side of the head a few times to shake him out of it.
nohero said:
paulsurovell said:Paul appears to be stuck in a loop, repeating the same taunts over and over. Maybe someone can smack him on the side of the head a few times to shake him out of it.
Apparently no longer respected by @sbenois. Big Mouth won't give one word of praise for his hero's excellent article on Israeli war crimes in Gaza.
You talk like Trump.
nohero said:
paulsurovell said:Paul appears to be stuck in a loop, repeating the same taunts over and over. Maybe someone can smack him on the side of the head a few times to shake him out of it.
Apparently no longer respected by @sbenois. Big Mouth won't give one word of praise for his hero's excellent article on Israeli war crimes in Gaza.
Please don't. It's far more enjoyable watching him try to find someone to have a play date with.
Perhaps he can call Tulsi the Warmonger and ask her if she wants to come over, sit in the backyard, and have some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
Fact checking Tulsi the Warmonger's lies:
sbenois said:
nohero said:Please don't. It's far more enjoyable watching him try to find someone to have a play date with.
paulsurovell said:Paul appears to be stuck in a loop, repeating the same taunts over and over. Maybe someone can smack him on the side of the head a few times to shake him out of it.
Apparently no longer respected by @sbenois. Big Mouth won't give one word of praise for his hero's excellent article on Israeli war crimes in Gaza.
Perhaps he can call Tulsi the Warmonger and ask her if she wants to come over, sit in the backyard, and have some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
.
Big Mouth appears to be out-sourcing posts to 9-year-olds. Must be really traumatized and confused by Janine's powerful article on Israeli war crimes in Gaza.
sbenois said:
Fact checking Tulsi the Warmonger's lies:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2019/08/04/tulsi-gabbards-reports-on-chemical-attacks-in-syria-a-self-contradictory-error-filled-mess/
Correction: Bellingcat lying about Tulsi's fact-checking:
https://hiddensyria.wordpress.com/2019/08/04/deleted-bellingcat-post/
Tulsi the Warmonger...Special Wolf in Sheep's Clothing Edition:
"
Ettinger also had choice words for Gabbard. “Personally I don’t like Gabbard one bit, I think her anti-imperialism is phony, politically calculating, and not principled,” he said in an email to Splinter. He added that Gravel “likes what he’s seen of Gabbard, but I don’t think he’s seen much of who she actually is.”
"
Tulsi the Warmonger: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing Act IV, Scene 12
"
The death and destruction in Yemen, Syria, Iraq and elsewhere is heartbreaking. It’s difficult for any conscientious human being to be insensitive to grotesque acts of war where civilians are bombed or gassed to death. But what is perplexing is Tulsi’s selective geographic umbrage on this issue.
On the one hand, she condemns the Saudi-U.S. led coalition as complicit in a genocidal war, but she welcomes India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has been called the "man with a massacre on his hands" with open arms.
Some background: In 2002, Modi was chief minister of the Indian state of Gujarat when fire broke out in a train full of Hindu pilgrims. This is how The Guardian’s Aditya Chakrabortty describes what followed:
"Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame; he then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad; and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days.
"What followed was mass bloodshed: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies. The vast majority of those who died were Muslim. Mobs of men dragged women and young girls out of their homes and raped them…One [of the ringleaders] boasted of how he slit open the womb of a pregnant woman."
"
Tulsi the Warmonger: Progressive ?, NOT!
Tulsi gets a big fat F in terms of her progressive rating...waaaaayyy down the list of Dems at #150
Pay special attention to the Ideology-Leadership Chart. Tulsi Gabbard is one of the least progressive Democrats in Congress.
http://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=house&sort=rating&order=down&party=D
Tulsi the Warmonger: Gun Nut Edition With a Twist of Political Expediency
Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) introduced the Assault Weapons Ban bill on Monday. His bill would ban the sale, transfer, possession, production and import of a number of semiautomatic rifles and pistols, semiautomatic shotguns with military features and ammunition-feeding devices that can accept more than 10 rounds.
Cicilline initially introduced the bill in 2015, though he updated it in the wake of the deadly mass shooting on Feb. 14 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. The latest version specifically names 205 firearms that the bill seeks to ban.
When the bill was introduced Monday, it listed 164 original co-sponsors, all of whom are Democrats, out of the 194 Democrats in the House. On Wednesday, the day Tamblyn tweeted about Gabbard and the bill, there were 167 sponsors ― with the Hawaii representative’s name still missing from the list.
Gabbard did sign up to co-sponsor the bill on Wednesday, a spokesman for Cicilline’s office told HuffPost. The spokesman did not know what time Gabbard had requested to co-sponsor the bill.
After Tamblyn’s tweet, Gabbard defended her stance on gun control and gun violence later Wednesday.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-gun-violence-amber-tamblyn_n_5a986176e4b089ec353852a2
Tulsi the Warmonger: Sheldon Adelson Is My Buddy Edition*
*Hard to understand how our Be About Peacenik, avowed Adelson hater, is so supportive of Tulsi Gabbard.
https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/forums/discussion/julian-assange-being-turned-over-to-uk?page=next&limit=960#discussion-replies-34293881. Why is Tulsi Gabbard so friendly with a Republican billionaire?
Sheldon Adelson and wife Miriam Adelson via Wikicommons
Tulsi Gabbard has worked with many influential Republicans, the most notable of whom is billionaire Sheldon Adelson:
Rabbi Shmuley ✔@RabbiShmuley with philanthropist Miriam Adelson and Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii at our Gala Dinner on 5 May
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/three-questions-about-tulsi_b_10212942
sbenois said:
Tulsi the Warmonger: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing Act IV, Scene 12
"
The death and destruction in Yemen, Syria, Iraq and elsewhere is heartbreaking. It’s difficult for any conscientious human being to be insensitive to grotesque acts of war where civilians are bombed or gassed to death. But what is perplexing is Tulsi’s selective geographic umbrage on this issue.
On the one hand, she condemns the Saudi-U.S. led coalition as complicit in a genocidal war, but she welcomes India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has been called the "man with a massacre on his hands" with open arms.
Some background: In 2002, Modi was chief minister of the Indian state of Gujarat when fire broke out in a train full of Hindu pilgrims. This is how The Guardian’s Aditya Chakrabortty describes what followed:
"Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame; he then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad; and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days.
"What followed was mass bloodshed: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies. The vast majority of those who died were Muslim. Mobs of men dragged women and young girls out of their homes and raped them…One [of the ringleaders] boasted of how he slit open the womb of a pregnant woman."
"
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-how-tulsi-gabbard-unites-bloodstained-modi-genocidal-assad-and-the-u-s-far-right-1.6870890
So you attack Tulsi because she "welcomes" Modi? Thanks, I guess.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/06/world/asia/india-narendra-modi-obama.html
sbenois said:
Tulsi the Warmonger: Sheldon Adelson Is My Buddy Edition*
*Hard to understand how our Be About Peacenik, avowed Adelson hater, is so supportive of Tulsi Gabbard.
https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/forums/discussion/julian-assange-being-turned-over-to-uk?page=next&limit=960#discussion-replies-3429388
1. Why is Tulsi Gabbard so friendly with a Republican billionaire?
Sheldon Adelson and wife Miriam Adelson via Wikicommons
Tulsi Gabbard has worked with many influential Republicans, the most notable of whom is billionaire Sheldon Adelson:
- Adelson gave “more than any other GOP-aligned donor” (twice the amount given by David Koch) to fund the 2014 Republican takeover of the Senate.
- Adelson massively funds union-busting.
Gabbard has introduced Adelson-backed legislation supportive of his business interests. Two days before she led a rally on May 7 for Bernie Sanders in California, Gabbard received the Champion of Freedom award at a gala in New York City, which was co-hosted and sponsored by Sheldon Adelson and his wife Miriam. Rabbi Shmuley ✔@RabbiShmuley with philanthropist Miriam Adelson and Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii at our Gala Dinner on 5 May
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/three-questions-about-tulsi_b_10212942
This looks like a @sbenois endorsement of Tulsi. Unfortunately for him there was no substantive connection between Tulsi and the Adelsons (Netanyahu's biggest funder) or Boteach (Cory Booker's former best friend), just pictures at an event.
sbenois said:
Tulsi the Warmonger: Gun Nut Edition With a Twist of Political Expediency
Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) introduced the Assault Weapons Ban bill on Monday. His bill would ban the sale, transfer, possession, production and import of a number of semiautomatic rifles and pistols, semiautomatic shotguns with military features and ammunition-feeding devices that can accept more than 10 rounds.
Cicilline initially introduced the bill in 2015, though he updated it in the wake of the deadly mass shooting on Feb. 14 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. The latest version specifically names 205 firearms that the bill seeks to ban.
When the bill was introduced Monday, it listed 164 original co-sponsors, all of whom are Democrats, out of the 194 Democrats in the House. On Wednesday, the day Tamblyn tweeted about Gabbard and the bill, there were 167 sponsors ― with the Hawaii representative’s name still missing from the list.
Gabbard did sign up to co-sponsor the bill on Wednesday, a spokesman for Cicilline’s office told HuffPost. The spokesman did not know what time Gabbard had requested to co-sponsor the bill.
After Tamblyn’s tweet, Gabbard defended her stance on gun control and gun violence later Wednesday.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-gun-violence-amber-tamblyn_n_5a986176e4b089ec353852a2
Thanks for another pro-Tulsi post. It looks like you've switched sides. Are you going to make it official?
sbenois said:
Tulsi the Warmonger: Progressive ?, NOT!
Tulsi gets a big fat F in terms of her progressive rating...waaaaayyy down the list of Dems at #150
Pay special attention to the Ideology-Leadership Chart. Tulsi Gabbard is one of the least progressive Democrats in Congress.
http://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=house&sort=rating&order=down&party=D
Let's see, she ranks above NJ Dems Josh Gottheimer, Andy Kim, Donald Norcross, Tom Malinowski, Mikie Sherrill and Jeff Van Drew. So she's more progessive (according to this chart) than most NJ Dem Reps (she would be 5th out of 11).
150th out of 233 is "one of the least progressive"?
On the other hand, the algorithm itself has problems. It is based on comparing votes with how "33 hard-core progressives voted". But there's no way to see the specific votes and topics (like "War and Peace") that the ratings are actually based on.
sbenois said:
Tulsi Supports Crushing Puerto Rico Financially:
Was PROMESA an issue among the Puerto Rican protesters -- who Tulsi joined -- as alleged in this anti-Obama hit-piece? I'm only finding corruption, homophobia and mysogyny.
But keep trying, the more you post, the better Tulsi looks.
paulsurovell said:
So you attack Tulsi because she "welcomes" Modi? Thanks, I guess.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/06/world/asia/india-narendra-modi-obama.html
Another example of False Obama Equivalency (FOE). See Twitter stream of @realDonaldTrump for multiple examples of same.
nohero said:
Another example of False Obama Equivalency (FOE). See Twitter stream of @realDonaldTrump for multiple examples of same.
Bless you, nohero, for being one of the few willing to actually read this thread so the rest of us don’t have to.
ridski said:
Bless you, nohero, for being one of the few willing to actually read this thread so the rest of us don’t have to.
A fellow could read that two ways, you know.
nohero said:
A fellow could read that two ways, you know.
LOL! My skip list is growing, but I doubt highly that you'll ever be on it.
nohero said:
paulsurovell said:
So you attack Tulsi because she "welcomes" Modi? Thanks, I guess.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/06/world/asia/india-narendra-modi-obama.htmlAnother example of False Obama Equivalency (FOE). See Twitter stream of @realDonaldTrump for multiple examples of same.
I'll assume in this case you're being honest in suggesting that Obama did not welcome Modi with open arms. But here's an essay he wrote about Modi that goes much further in its praise for Modi than Tulsi ever did:
https://time.com/3823155/naren...
April 16, 2015
As a boy, Narendra Modi helped his father sell tea to support their family. Today, he’s the leader of the world’s largest democracy, and his life story—from poverty to Prime Minister—reflects the dynamism and potential of India’s rise.
Determined to help more Indians follow in his path, he’s laid out an ambitious vision to reduce extreme poverty, improve education, empower women and girls and unleash India’s true economic potential while confronting climate change. Like India, he transcends the ancient and the modern—a devotee of yoga who connects with Indian citizens on Twitter and imagines a “digital India.”
When he came to Washington, Narendra and I visited the memorial to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. We reflected on the teachings of King and Gandhi and how the diversity of backgrounds and faiths in our countries is a strength we have to protect. Prime Minister Modi recognizes that more than 1 billion Indians living and succeeding together can be an inspiring model for the world.
Obama is the 44th President of the United States
Here's a better to link to Barack Obama's Time magazine essay which heaps gushing praise on Indian PM Modi, far beyond anything that Tulsi has said. This one includes the title: "India's reformer-in-chief" as well as Obama's byline.
Thanks again to @sbenois for calling attention to Tulsi's "welcome" to PM Modi so we can see that it's another example where she "exempifies the Democratic Party's values" as former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Shultz said when Tulsi was unanimously elected vice chair of the DNC.
In contrast, to state the obvious, our resident Tulsi haters @sbenois and @nohero do not share the Party's values:
ridski said:
nohero said:
Another example of False Obama Equivalency (FOE). See Twitter stream of @realDonaldTrump for multiple examples of same.Bless you, nohero, for being one of the few willing to actually read this thread so the rest of us don’t have to.
Hey @ridski, I know you aren't reading this, but deepest thanks in abstentia for your reference to Janine di Giovanni's excellent article on Israel's war crimes in Gaza against unarmed protesters as well as its blockade which causes immense suffering for the people of Gaza. I'm still waiting for the president of the MOL Janine Fan Club -- @sbenois ("I won't vote for Bernie I'll stay home") -- to acknowledge the importance of this article.
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You didn't answer earlier -- do you have a problem with the phrase "Islamic terrorists"?
Not sure why you keep invoking Nancy Pelosi's meeting with Assad.
And are you really critical of all officials who meet with el-Sisi? Do you want a list?
This post actually looks like a @sbenois endorsement of Tulsi.