What Other Towns Have Done With Their Closed Post Offices
tjohn said:
In fairness to Greg, is he involved in the lawsuit in any way?
He doesn't really have to be involved in the lawsuit. He's aligned himself with the folks who filed it, so he's going to be brushed with that taint whether he likes it or not.
Fair enough, IMHO.
(cross-posted w/ Max)
I thought Mr. Profeta was a Village Keepers board member. He's out there with the signs, and he does comment a lot on their behalf.
He is on the Village Alliance.
So, is he suing himself, here?
nohero said:
I thought Mr. Profeta was a Village Keepers board member. He's out there with the signs, and he does comment a lot on their behalf.
He is on the Village Alliance.
So, is he suing himself, here?
maybe it's like the guy who would punch himself in the face repeatedly. you know why? because it feels so good when you stop.
I wonder what will be cut so that the township can pay for the cost of this lawsuit. Any guesses? Or maybe that should be another thread...
Oh, ***** you very much, Village Keepers. If you started this process last month I might just have managed to apply for citizenship and vote for Scalera in time, but now I'm stuck not just paying taxes but paying to defend your *****e lawsuit. Good job, guys. Good job.
ml1 said:
author said:I've been extremely happy in NJ for my entire life. But that's probably because I'm smart enough not to dine al fresco in Maplewood in January.
You know I thought I have been happy here for the 37 years I have called Maplewood my home.
That chart convinces me I have not been happy.
That restaurant closes in January. They all go to the beach in Chile.
nohero said:
I thought Mr. Profeta was a Village Keepers board member. He's out there with the signs, and he does comment a lot on their behalf.
He is on the Village Alliance.
So, is he suing himself, here?
On second thought, maybe it's more like this:
http://youtu.be/ZG-VB5xb6KM
The 60's TV series the many lives of Dobie Gillis featured the great Bob Denver as the
beatnik friend Maynard G Krebs.
An ongoing theme was that Krebs was protesting. What was he protesting? He didn't know.
That's what he was protesting.
ridski said:
Oh, ***** you very much, Village Keepers. If you started this process last month I might just have managed to apply for citizenship and vote for Scalera in time, but now I'm stuck not just paying taxes but paying to defend your *****e lawsuit. Good job, guys. Good job.
We should meet up with thermoses of gin and tonics and go from home with Keep the Village a Village sign to home and knock on their doors and kindly ask them why they are sueing us. I mean we aren't such bad fellas, misunderstood maybe but not delinquent.
What works best Tues or Wed?
I'm gonna do Blue Coat for my G&T I assume you'll want Boodles
max_weisenfeld said:
tjohn said:His platform, his supporters, his campaign, his issue, his problem now.
In fairness to Greg, is he involved in the lawsuit in any way?
There is no lawsuit.
By the way...........since the Township has full time in house counsel the cost of a law suit if there
is one will be a fraction of the numbers thrown around.
who's going to pay the damages if the VK lawsuit undoes the PO deal and JMF sues the township?
I think that VK should pay ALL of the costs (on both sides) of this lawsuit.
And since that isn't likely to happen, I hope that someone will calculate those costs and proclaim them to all (perhaps in 'per household' terms or in terms of what services are impacted in order to pay them.) I'm looking forward to hearing about that at election time, hopefully this year, but otherwise next.
With out a doubt there is a cancellation clause of some kind with the builder. He was named as sole
contractor for the project. And that is as far as it went. There has been no land transfer. No authorization to do the work. The job was still filled with contingencies and I am sure the town has protected itself.
author said:
With out a doubt there is a cancellation clause of some kind with the builder. He was named as sole
contractor for the project. And that is as far as it went. There has been no land transfer. No authorization to do the work. The job was still filled with contingencies and I am sure the town has protected itself.
You don't think the developer has protected himself as well? How much time and money do you think he's spent on creating/revising plans and hiring professionals to investigate site conditions? Do you think he'll just walk away with no compensation?
To begin with there is no real guarantee that he will walk away
Secondly, yes I am sure there is some kind of formula worked out for these things should the project be cancelled.
And if the project is cancelled it will be to the credit of our elected officials .
This building has been almost an urban legend since it was decided many years ago not
to renew the lease on the Post Office.
If the builder walks..........time for some fresh creative thinking and I think the recent voting shows
a large number of people in town feel the same way.
dude, you and I live in different realities.
In the world I live in, business is conducted by contract for sure. But there is also a reservoir of good will that is really important to cultivate. There are literally hundreds of towns that builders and developers can work with in NJ. Why would any of them choose to work with a township that appears to be a pain in the ass to work with? And besides the annoyance factor, why would they want to spend any budget or incur opportunity costs on projects that could be canceled at the whim of a vocal advocacy group.
if this project falls through, the probability is higher that we'll have a decaying hulk in the village for several years than it is that you'll get your cafe/bowling alley/gallery/museum/etc., etc.
author said:
With out a doubt there is a cancellation clause of some kind with the builder. He was named as sole
contractor for the project. And that is as far as it went. There has been no land transfer. No authorization to do the work. The job was still filled with contingencies and I am sure the town has protected itself.
You really don't know anything about anything do you? I'm going back to skipping over your posts as they contain nothing of value.
author said:
max_weisenfeld said:There is no lawsuit.
tjohn said:His platform, his supporters, his campaign, his issue, his problem now.
In fairness to Greg, is he involved in the lawsuit in any way?
By the way...........since the Township has full time in house counsel the cost of a law suit if there
is one will be a fraction of the numbers thrown around.
There certainly is a law suit. The filed Complaint has been printed on Village Green.
There is a Township Attorney. I am fairly certain that basic salary does not cover litigation and that his law firm gets paid an hourly fee for litigation, or the Township has to hire outside counsel. Furthermore I think the Township and the MVA will be required to have separate lawyers.
CONFUSED said:
author said:There certainly is a law suit. The filed Complaint has been printed on Village Green.
max_weisenfeld said:There is no lawsuit.
tjohn said:His platform, his supporters, his campaign, his issue, his problem now.
In fairness to Greg, is he involved in the lawsuit in any way?
By the way...........since the Township has full time in house counsel the cost of a law suit if there
is one will be a fraction of the numbers thrown around.
There is a Township Attorney. I am fairly certain that basic salary does not cover litigation and that his law firm gets paid an hourly fee for litigation, or the Township has to hire outside counsel. Furthermore I think the Township and the MVA will be required to have separate lawyers.
Her. Township attorny is a her.
The Township might need to hire a specialist to deal with the shenanigans of the Village Keepers attorney:
http://www.bmk-law.com/attorneys/richard-s-schkolnick
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ml1 said:
who's going to pay the damages if the VK lawsuit undoes the PO deal and JMF sues the township?
We have a winner.
author said:
To begin with there is no real guarantee that he will walk away
Secondly, yes I am sure there is some kind of formula worked out for these things should the project be cancelled.
And if the project is cancelled it will be to the credit of our elected officials .
This building has been almost an urban legend since it was decided many years ago not
to renew the lease on the Post Office.
If the builder walks..........time for some fresh creative thinking and I think the recent voting shows
a large number of people in town feel the same way.
If a large number of folks in town are as shortsighted and naive as reflected in the above, that explains one hell of a lot of those signs, that's for sure.
"Some kind of formula"? Seriously?? I'm not sure where to even go with the rest of it.
With so many sour grapes falling from the keyboards I am sure a great wine could be bottled.
The good thing about the courts is that all are equal in the eyes of the law.
This lawsuit is only a small part of what has been transpiring.............but I am sure it will be quite symbolic.
When you click the link: "Municipalities where Richard Schkolnick has represented applicants" on Schkolnick's resume (above) this is what you get:
Land Use Appearances by Richard S. Schkolnick
Bergen County
Alpine Borough
Bergenfield Borough
East Rutherford Borough
Edgewater Borough
Fairview Borough
Fort Lee Borough
Garfield City
Hackensack City
Hasbrouck Heights Borough
Hillsdale Borough
New Milford Borough
Paramus Borough
Ridgefield Borough
Ridgefield Park Village
Ridgewood Village
River Vale Township
Rockleigh Borough
Saddle Brook Township
Teaneck Township
Teterboro Borough
Wallington Borough
Wood-Ridge Borough
Wyckoff Township
Essex County
Belleville Township
Bloomfield Township
Cedar Grove Township
Caldwell Borough
East Orange City
Fairfield Township
Glen Ridge Borough
Irvington City
Livingston Township
Maplewood Township
Millburn Township
Montclair Township
Newark City
Nutley Township
Orange Township City
Roseland Borough
South Orange Village Township
West Caldwell Township
West Orange Township
Hudson County
Bayonne City
Guttenberg Town
Harrison Town
Hoboken City
Jersey City
Kearny Town
North Bergen Township
Union City
Weehawken Township
Hunterdon County
Bloomsbury Borough
Clinton Township
Flemington Borough
Lebanon Township
Readington Township
Middlesex County
Carteret Borough
Dunellen Borough
East Brunswick Township
Edison Township
Helmetta Borough
Highland Park Borough
Jamesburg Borough
Metuchen Borough
New Brunswick City
North Brunswick Township
Piscataway Township
South Brunswick Township
South Plainfield Borough
Spotswood Borough
Woodbridge Township
Monmouth County
Holmdel Township
Morris County
Chatham Borough
Chatham Township
Chester Borough
Chester Township
Denville Township
Dover Town
East Hanover Township
Florham Park Borough
Hanover Township
Harding Township
Jefferson Township
Kinnelon Borough
Long Hill Township
Madison Borough
Mine Hill Township
Montville Township
Morris Plains Borough
Morris Township
Morristown Town
Netcong Borough
Parsippany-Troy Hills Township
Randolph Township
Riverdale Borough
Rockaway Township
Washington Township
Wharton Borough
Ocean County
Lakewood Township
Passaic County
Bloomingdale Borough
Clifton City
Passaic City
Paterson City
Prospect Park Borough
Totowa Borough
Wayne Township
Woodland Park Borough
(formerly West Paterson)
Somerset County
Bernards Township
Bridgewater Township
Manville Borough
North Plainfield Borough
Peapack-Gladstone Borough
Union County
Berkeley Heights Township
Cranford Township
Elizabeth City
Fanwood Borough
Garwood Borough
Hillside Township
Kenilworth Borough
Linden City
Mountainside Borough
New Providence Borough
Rahway City
Roselle Borough
Roselle Park Borough
Scotch Plains Township
Springfield Township
Summit City
Union Township
Westfield Township
Warren County
Hackettstown Town
Hope Township
Independence Township
Liberty Township
Mansfield Township
White Township
The hiring of a high-powered real estate lawyer detracts from the narrative of "the little people" of the "village" fighting the arrogant powers-that-be . . .
. . . unless Brown, Moskowitz is motivated by idealism and is doing the case pro bono . . .
paulsurovell said:
The hiring of a high-powered real estate lawyer detracts from the narrative of "the little people" of the "village" fighting the arrogant powers-that-be . . .
. . . unless Brown, Moskowitz is motivated by idealism and is doing the case pro bono . . .
Could be. Your hunches about another local lawyer's volunteer bona fides were spot on.
Please excuse me, y'all. I could use some air.
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His platform, his supporters, his campaign, his issue, his problem now.