The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns
OMG! The full text is even worse. The last sentence illuminates her enormous conceit.
mtierney said:
OMG! The full text is even worse. The last sentence illuminates her enormous conceit.
Forty months of umbrage and this is the first time you’ve read the full quote?
ridski said:
Which basket is this guy in?
Nothing says "Christianist Terrorist" like a homemade AR-15 with a Jerusalem Cross where you put your Jailed Hillary magazine.
[Edited to add] And, you can shop where Don Jr. gets his swag.
mtierney said:
OMG! The full text is even worse. The last sentence illuminates her enormous conceit.
how is it worse? And are there any parts that you think are untrue?
I'd nitpick her using the word "half" when she likely meant "a portion" (I doubt she literally meant 50%). But hasn't the past 3 years proved her right about the racism, the misogyny, and Islamaphobia of a portion of Trump's base? Didn't the "Jews will not replace us" demonstration in Charlottesville provide sufficient proof of the deplorableness?
ridski said:
Which basket is this guy in?
Apparently, Don Jr. is in the "I'm going to accidentally shoot myself or someone else" basket.
Some weapon safety fails from the king's son. pic.twitter.com/A20gYBxy3L
meanwhile, mt successfully avoids another question...
as we wait for some noise in the middle east.
DaveSchmidt said:
Forty months of umbrage and this is the first time you’ve read the full quote?
No, but reading it again years later, in 2020, I am still shocked that this professional politician, who already had lived in the White House for eight years, would make such a blunder.
mtierney said:
DaveSchmidt said:
Forty months of umbrage and this is the first time you’ve read the full quote?
No, but reading it again years later, in 2020, I am still shocked that this professional politician, who already had lived in the White House for eight years, would make such a blunder.
What was the blunder? Accurately describing the electorate?
What about trump calling all his critics “human scum”? Do you feel that’s a blunder?
The word to describe the people who make this argument, and the audience which is convinced by this argument, is "deplorable". “The only ones mourning the loss of Soleimani are our Democrat leadership and Democrat Presidential candidates.” pic.twitter.com/IZJJqpxkBE
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/war-powers-resolution-iran.html
“The executive order traces back to a rule imposed by President Gerald R. Ford after accusations came to light in the 1970s that the C.I.A. had been involved in plots to kill foreign elected leaders with Communist sympathies. Later, as the United States grappled with Islamist terrorism, executive branch lawyers under both parties wrote secret memos developing the idea that targeted killings in self-defense are not assassinations.
The Obama administration also developed the idea that what counts as an “imminent” threat — which permits violent acts undertaken in self-defense — can be stretched for terrorists who are continuously planning attacks from the shadows, so that they can be struck during any fleeting opportunity even if they pose no literally imminent threat at that moment.
But no American court precedent exists adjudicating whether either theory is legitimate.
General Suleimani was a high-ranking official of a national government, not a leader of a nonstate terrorist group. But further complicating matters, last year Mr. Trump designated the branch of the Iranian military that General Suleimani led a foreign terrorist organization, the first time the United States deemed a state entity to meet that criteria.
mtierney said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/war-powers-resolution-iran.html
“The executive order traces back to a rule imposed by President Gerald R. Ford after accusations came to light in the 1970s that the C.I.A. had been involved in plots to kill foreign elected leaders with Communist sympathies. Later, as the United States grappled with Islamist terrorism, executive branch lawyers under both parties wrote secret memos developing the idea that targeted killings in self-defense are not assassinations.
The Obama administration also developed the idea that what counts as an “imminent” threat — which permits violent acts undertaken in self-defense — can be stretched for terrorists who are continuously planning attacks from the shadows, so that they can be struck during any fleeting opportunity even if they pose no literally imminent threat at that moment.
But no American court precedent exists adjudicating whether either theory is legitimate.
General Suleimani was a high-ranking official of a national government, not a leader of a nonstate terrorist group. But further complicating matters, last year Mr. Trump designated the branch of the Iranian military that General Suleimani led a foreign terrorist organization, the first time the United States deemed a state entity to meet that criteria.
as for the highlighted portion of your post, you should let the Trumper's know, because they're not making that case. They're just lying about it, as is their wont.
Will Defense Secretary Esper be fired for refusing to order US forces to committing war crimes in Iran?
mtierney said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/war-powers-resolution-iran.html
“The executive order traces back to a rule imposed by President Gerald R. Ford after accusations came to light in the 1970s that the C.I.A. had been involved in plots to kill foreign elected leaders with Communist sympathies. Later, as the United States grappled with Islamist terrorism, executive branch lawyers under both parties wrote secret memos developing the idea that targeted killings in self-defense are not assassinations.
The Obama administration also developed the idea that what counts as an “imminent” threat — which permits violent acts undertaken in self-defense — can be stretched for terrorists who are continuously planning attacks from the shadows, so that they can be struck during any fleeting opportunity even if they pose no literally imminent threat at that moment.
But no American court precedent exists adjudicating whether either theory is legitimate.
General Suleimani was a high-ranking official of a national government, not a leader of a nonstate terrorist group. But further complicating matters, last year Mr. Trump designated the branch of the Iranian military that General Suleimani led a foreign terrorist organization, the first time the United States deemed a state entity to meet that criteria.
That's so indistinguishable from a @paulsurovell "What about Obama" post that I'd almost suspect that he's surreptitiously participating here instead of using his own account.
For all you FOX News fans, there is this!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/pete-hegseth-trump-fox-news.html
mtierney said:
For all you FOX News fans, there is this!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/pete-hegseth-trump-fox-news.html
where do you hold the MOL Fox News Fan Club meetings? In a Smart car?
All that is missing in this Times report on the Iran threat is Harrison Ford!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/us/politics/trump-iran-suleimani.html
Excerpts:
“WASHINGTON — The alert came to the White House shortly after 2 p.m. on Tuesday, a flash message from American spy agencies that officials sometimes call a “squawk.” In the coming hours, it warned, an Iranian attack on American troops was almost certain.
A blizzard of potential threats had already come throughout the day — of attacks with missiles and rockets, of terrorist strikes against Americans elsewhere in the Middle East, even one warning that hundreds of Iran-backed militia fighters might try to assault Al Asad Air Base, a sprawling compound in Iraq’s western desert.
But the specificity of the afternoon’s latest warning sent Vice President Mike Pence and Robert C. O’Brien, the White House national security adviser, to the basement of the West Wing, where aides were assembling in the Situation Room. President Trump joined shortly after wrapping up a meeting with the Greek prime minister.
Three hours later, a hail of ballistic missiles launched from Iran crashed into two bases in Iraq, including Al Asad, where roughly 1,000 American troops are stationed. The strikes capped a frenetic day filled with confusion and misinformation, where at times it appeared that a dangerous military escalation could lead to a broader war. Mr. Trump spent hours with his aides monitoring the latest threats. Military planners considered options to retaliate if Iran killed American troops.”
And
“But others around the long, rectangular table in the Situation Room had only modest foreign policy experience — including Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff and a former congressman from South Carolina, and Mr. O’Brien, who was a Los Angeles lawyer before spending two and a half years as Mr. Trump’s chief hostage negotiator and assumed the post of national security adviser in September.
Appearing on a video screen was Gina Haspel, the C.I.A. director, who was monitoring the crisis from the agency’s headquarters in Northern Virginia. In the days before General Suleimani’s death, Ms. Haspel had advised Mr. Trump that the threat the Iranian general presented was greater than the threat of Iran’s response if he was killed, according to current and former American officials. Indeed, Ms. Haspel had predicted the most likely response would be a missile strike from Iran to bases where American troops were deployed, the very situation that appeared to be playing out on Tuesday afternoon.”
mtierney said:
All that is missing in this Times report on the Iran threat is Harrison Ford!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/us/politics/trump-iran-suleimani.html
Wrong. More like Peter Sellers as President Merkin Muffley in Doctor Strangelove. With Mike Pompeo as the George C. Scott character.
With sandwiches piled on a sideboard in the room, the group that advised the president there at different times throughout the day included a handful of seasoned national security officials, … It also included Mr. Pompeo, who has become a driving force in the Trump administration’s Iran policy and an advocate of what he often calls “restoring deterrence” against Tehran’s aggression in the Middle East. As a forceful proponent of the Jan. 3 strike that killed General Suleimani, Mr. Pompeo had played an instrumental role in bringing Mr. Trump to the crisis point.
But others around the long, rectangular table in the Situation Room had only modest foreign policy experience — including Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff and a former congressman from South Carolina, and Mr. O’Brien, who was a Los Angeles lawyer before spending two and a half years as Mr. Trump’s chief hostage negotiator and assumed the post of national security adviser in September.
Harrison Ford on Donald Trump:
Hmmmm.... not sure why the video won't embed. I don't generally post a lot of videos 
Needless to say, Ford is not a fan of Bonespurs Rambo.
CNN reports...
4 min ago
JUST IN: US increasingly believes Iran shot down Ukrainian airliner by accident
From CNN's Jim Sciutto, Pamela Brown and Barbara Starr
The US increasingly believes that Iran mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian airliner on Tuesday, according to multiple US officials. The working theory is based on continuing analysis of data from satellites, radar and electronic data collected routinely by US military and intelligence.
The flight was downed following Iranian strikes on US forces in Iraq.
Iran’s Civil Aviation Organization head, Ali Abedzadeh, said it would not hand the flight data recorders to Boeing or the United States after they were found on Wednesday.
26 min ago
UK looking into "very concerning" reports about plane crash
The UK is looking into "very concerning" reports about the Iran plane crash, a Downing Street spokesperson said, according to the PA news agency.
"I'm not going to speculate on this but the reports we have seen are very concerning and we are urgently looking into them," the spokesperson told PA.
Ukraine officials said earlier Thursday they are looking into multiple causes for the crash, including a missile strike or terrorism.
176 people perished on this plane.
mtierney said:
For all you FOX News fans, there is this!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/pete-hegseth-trump-fox-news.html
Sarah Sanders on Fox & Friends says the constitution is dumb.
"The point of splitting the power to declare war from the power to wage
it is to ensure some level of deliberation and popular input before the
U.S. enters a conflict the whole country will have to fight. But Sanders
seems to prefer an alternative constitutional arrangement where the
president can decide to start a conflict on a whim."
The incident with the plane is eerily reminiscent of the tragedy that occurred in 1988 when the USS Vincennes mistakenly shot down Iran Air Flight 655 killing all 290 passengers and crew.
Hopefully, the US will be mindful of its glass house as we move forward. P
Klinker said:
The incident with the plane is eerily reminiscent of the tragedy that occurred in 1988 when the USS Vincennes mistakenly shot down Iran Air Flight 655 killing all 290 passengers and crew.
Hopefully, the US will be mindful of its glass house as we move forward. P
Klinker, are you still launching projectiles in your own vitreous dwelling?
Tragic loss of civilian lives in both crashes — but not the same
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yeah, but you know, the rule is that while Republicans regularly get away with disparaging whole states and regions of the country, Democrats can never be critical of any part of the electorate. Remember Obama's accurate comment about some people "clinging" to guns and religion? A scandal!!
I so hate these people.