The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

lord_pabulum said:

 I think someone .....

Our new Lord Haw-Haw defending the type of people Lord Haw-Haws always defend.

“You people with this phony Emoluments Clause,” says person who swore an oath to "preserve, protect and defend [every clause of] the Constitution of the United States of America".

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/21/trump-says-critics-giving-best-g-7-ever-doral/

RealityForAll said:

 Once again, for how long do you (Klinker) hold a grudge?

Re K&B, Inc.:

“ Politics has become so all-possessive of life, that by impertinence it thinks the only philosophy a person can hold is the right or the left. This question puts out all the lights of religion so they can call all the cats gray. It assumes that man lives on a purely horizontal plane, and can move only to the right or the left. Had we eyes less material, we would see that there are two other directions where a man with a soul may look: the vertical directions of “up” or “down.”
― Fulton J. Sheen, Characters of the Passion

mtierney said:

― Fulton J. Sheen

Not a real Saint.

That said, I would rather hear from the most flatulent would be saint in Hell than see another kitten wired into some bizarre posture just to create a meme for Sans.

The above post is an example of someone who has definitely lost their grip on reality.  Presidential material some might say,  based on current memes

lord_pabulum said:

The above post is an example of someone who has definitely lost their grip on reality.  Presidential material some might say,  based on current memes

 Thank you for your support.

Speaking of people losing grip on reality....

mtierney - Your President

We’re going to win so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of winning, you’re going to come to me and go ‘Please, please, we can’t win anymore.’ -Donald Trump May 16, 2016

As victorious Russian troops occupy hastily abandoned US bases across Northern Syria I have to ask, are we now, at long last, finally, sick of winning?

More likely, sick of fighting.

Meanwhile, back on the campaign trail...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/us/politics/democratic-candidates-2020.html

mtierney said:

More likely, sick of fighting.

 Hardly. Our troops aren't coming home, they're driving to Iraq as we speak.

ridski said:

mtierney said:

More likely, sick of fighting.

 Hardly. Our troops aren't coming home, they're driving to Iraq as we speak.

 Many of them are reportedly pretty pi$$ed off at being ordered to abandon the men and women they have fought with for years. The order to surrender Norther Syria was not popular amongst the troops.

mtierney said:

Meanwhile, back on the campaign trail...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/us/politics/democratic-candidates-2020.html

 Yes, by all means, let us not focus on the betrayal and defeat.  That said, it certainly does put Benghazi in perspective.  Has America ever known a greater traitor?  Benedict Arnold only betrayed the fort at West Point.  Trump handed over an entire Front.

Klinker said:

ridski said:

mtierney said:

More likely, sick of fighting.

 Hardly. Our troops aren't coming home, they're driving to Iraq as we speak.

 Many of them are reportedly pretty pi$$ed off at being ordered to abandon the men and women they have fought with for years. The order to surrender Norther Syria was not popular amongst the troops.

"As the last U.S. troops pull out of Syria, an American soldier wears a YPJ emblem on his uniform as a sign of solidarity with the Kurdish ally they are leaving behind. (The YPJ is the women's unit of YPG, they fiercely fought ISIS)."

 https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/1185872659466412032?s=20

Here's a funny one. Iraq doesn't want our troops from Syria to be there.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-usa-iraq-pm/iraq-says-it-is-taking-measures-over-entry-of-u-s-forces-from-syria-idUSKBN1X21XM

mtierney said:

Meanwhile, back on the campaign trail...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/us/politics/democratic-candidates-2020.html

 See... the funny thing is the 2020 Dem Campaign is not "happening in the Rose Garden".  We have a separate thread for that campaign on which you are welcome to participate.  What is "happening in the Rose Garden" is betrayal, treason and cowardice.  Why is the woman who was so fascinated by the death of three Americans in Benghazi so completely uninterested?

mtierney said:

More likely, sick of fighting.

Which isn't the reason why Trump had them leave. As if Trump would ever ask them. 

Last night I saw that Turkey violated the agreement Pence and Pompeo made with Erdogan. That is, Turkey was supposed to only go in 15 miles but actually went in 60, cleaning the area of "terrorist" Kurds. 

But was the agreement Pence and Pompeo thought they made the real one? Or did Trump have a private agreement with Erdogan? Most likely moderated by Putin.

This keeps up history will record the 21th century, the era of Putin the Great and Trump the Dotard.

All roads lead to Putin.

But wait..... Trump says PEACE IN OUR TIME!!!!

I've gotta say that he looks better with the stash.  The black and white takes the shine off the orange as well.

Klinker said:

But wait..... Trump says PEACE IN OUR TIME!!!!

I've gotta say that he looks better with the stash.  The black and white takes the shine off the orange as well.

nohero said:

Klinker said:

ridski said:

mtierney said:

More likely, sick of fighting.

 Hardly. Our troops aren't coming home, they're driving to Iraq as we speak.

 Many of them are reportedly pretty pi$$ed off at being ordered to abandon the men and women they have fought with for years. The order to surrender Norther Syria was not popular amongst the troops.

"As the last U.S. troops pull out of Syria, an American soldier wears a YPJ emblem on his uniform as a sign of solidarity with the Kurdish ally they are leaving behind. (The YPJ is the women's unit of YPG, they fiercely fought ISIS)."

 https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/1185872659466412032?s=20

Cute, but he is still surrendering and throwing his allies under the bus. Our military is not exactly without blame here.

basil said:

Cute, but he is still surrendering and throwing his allies under the bus. Our military is not exactly without blame here.

 Could you explain this a bit?  

IMHO, Photoshopped posts are not funny. 

When Democrats and Liberals look back on the past almost three years, they might see that in said of doing governance, they chose to put all their energy into spiteful thrashing of an elected president. Will this set a precedent? Don’t like the electoral process? Let’s gang up on, make up stories about, and play games. 

Americans who want to see our president fail — by whatever means — damaged the the structure of our democracy.

Sedition?

Ummm, hasn't this already happened in previous decades and under other majority administrations? The one major difference that I can see is that we have access to a more immediate reportage of juvenile antics of supposedly responsible adults (who are mostly males and mostly from either more 'respected' backgrounds or occupations). 

Once upon a time, supposed civility demanded that such antics weren't reported so that the office of Congressman (or Parliamentarian) was better respected. Now we report poor ethics and bad behaviour to demonstrate community standards expected of the office incumbents. 

Decide if you want honesty and transparency (and democracy) or autocracy and a farce of community standards.

(Also, technically, the animal and flower  pics with added witty captions would also be classed as 'photoshopped posts')

Surely it would be easier and cheaper (and ultimately a bigger vote winner) to just tighten gun control?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/23/republicans-mass-shootings-school-surveillance

How much more intrusive can school surveillance systems get??

mtierney said:

IMHO, Photoshopped posts are not funny. 

Would you prefer we attach Trump to wires and contort him into some impossible position like one of the abused kittens from your endless memes?

mtierney said:

Americans who want to see our president fail — by whatever means — damaged the the structure of our democracy.

Sedition?

 were you asleep from 2009-2017?

mtierney said: 

Americans who want to see our president fail — by whatever means — damaged the the structure of our democracy.

Donald Trump fails just fine on his own.  He doesn't need any help from others.

Case in point,  Trump's betrayal of our Kurdish allies and surrender of Northern Syria happened because the President of Turkey (a third rate junior member of the NATO alliance) intimidated him during a phone call.  It wasn't the democrats, it wasn't the media, it was the President's complete lack of cajones that caused him to set in motion perhaps the greatest American defeat since the Fall of Saigon.

mtierney said:

Americans who want to see our president fail — by whatever means — damaged the the structure of our democracy.

Sedition?

"We need to say to everyone on Election Day, Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.....The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

-Republican Majority Leader Moscow Mitch McConnell, October 23, 2010