The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

Impeaching a president for lying in a civil case unrelated to his official duties seems exactly to fit the definition of using impeachment for political purposes. You'd think people like Lindsay Graham would lay low right now when talking about an impeachment investigation, but of course people like him are shameless. 

Another approach in the immigration crisis— 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/world/americas/trump-salvador-migration.html

lord_pabulum said:

When drummerboy sophomorically says what somebody posts is wrong he never explains why its wrong.   

...

 that is, of course, completely wrong . you are, in fact, now lying about me, and you should stop.

Maybe you do explain, but let's see

Apart from 8:40 last night

https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/forums/discussion/subforum/how-will-this-whole-trump-thing-end/politics-plus?page=next&limit=0#discussion-replies-3476496

https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/forums/discussion/letter-to-my-congressman?page=next&limit=0#discussion-replies-3459571

https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/forums/discussion/the-kavanaugh-hearing?page=next&limit=780#discussion-replies-3424238

sure, that's certainly a dispositive analysis of my posting behavior.

drummerboy said:

sure, that's certainly a dispositive analysis of my posting behavior.

You should feel flattered that someone is keeping track of your posts. 

drummerboy said:

sure, that's certainly a dispositive analysis of my posting behavior.

 Only to prove I didn't lie is all.  

lord_pabulum said:

drummerboy said:

sure, that's certainly a dispositive analysis of my posting behavior.

 Only to prove I didn't lie is all.  

 well, that depends on the meaning of the word never, doesn't it?

drummerboy said:

 well, that depends on the meaning of the word never, doesn't it?

 True, I should never have used an absolute. 

ok then.

While the Democrats spend all their time and talents in the impeachment push, not much gets done, legislatively. I recommend the Congress get back to work and allow the voters decide who they want to win in 2020. We do trust the American voter, right? Or, do the liberal/socialist/democratic folks believe none of their candidates will win? 

So close to an election year, and after three years focused on the  effort to nail Trump on whatever charge will stick, this seems like desperation rather than righteous conduct.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/house-senate-legislation-impeachment.html

mtierney said:

While the Democrats spend all their time and talents in the impeachment push, not much gets done, legislatively. I recommend the Congress get back to work and allow the voters decide who they want to win in 2020. We do trust the American voter, right? Or, do the liberal/socialist/democratic folks believe none of their candidates will win? 

So close to an election year, and after three years focused on the  effort to nail Trump on whatever charge will stick, this seems like desperation rather than righteous conduct.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/house-senate-legislation-impeachment.html

 So a "Get Out of Jail Free" card for the POTUS?  I must say that I admire your consistency.  Your steadfast opposition to the impeachment of Bill Clinton has always, more than anything else, defined you.

mtierney said:

While the Democrats spend all their time and talents in the impeachment push, not much gets done, legislatively. I recommend the Congress get back to work and allow the voters decide who they want to win in 2020. We do trust the American voter, right? Or, do the liberal/socialist/democratic folks believe none of their candidates will win? 

So close to an election year, and after three years focused on the  effort to nail Trump on whatever charge will stick, this seems like desperation rather than righteous conduct.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/house-senate-legislation-impeachment.html

 nothing has been accomplished legislatively anyhow. Remember McConnell calling himself the Grim Reaper?  The House has passed literally hundreds of bills that have died in the Senate. 

Do you really think it's OK if Trump leaned on another country to do his bidding and help him politically?

mtierney said:

While the Democrats spend all their time and talents in the impeachment push, not much gets done, legislatively. I recommend the Congress get back to work and allow the voters decide who they want to win in 2020. We do trust the American voter, right? Or, do the liberal/socialist/democratic folks believe none of their candidates will win? 

So close to an election year, and after three years focused on the  effort to nail Trump on whatever charge will stick, this seems like desperation rather than righteous conduct.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/house-senate-legislation-impeachment.html

 Thanks to you and your friends, this is our reality.

To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word little wrong. A small but never ending situation with CNN!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) september"="" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177539052683309056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2019

ridski said:

 Thanks to you and your friends, this is our reality.

To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word little wrong. A small but never ending situation with CNN!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) september"="" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177539052683309056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2019

In "@CNN purposely took the hyphen out", the word "hyphen" is just shorthand for "hyphenostrophe".

Oh! I just remembered. I’m due for my next hyphenostrophe.

DaveSchmidt said:

Oh! I just remembered. I’m due for my next hyphenostrophe.

 opt for the general anesthesia, not the epidural.

ml1 said:

DaveSchmidt said:

Oh! I just remembered. I’m due for my next hyphenostrophe.

 opt for the general anesthesia, not the epidural.

Where's the fun in that? 

nohero said:

Where's the fun in that? 

if it's fun you're looking for, just skip the anesthesia altogether

nohero said:

In "@CNN purposely took the hyphen out", the word "hyphen" is just shorthand for "hyphenostrophe".

 I'll take Neurosyphilitic Dementia for 1000, please Alex.

ridski said:

nohero said:

In "@CNN purposely took the hyphen out", the word "hyphen" is just shorthand for "hyphenostrophe".

 I'll take Neurosyphilitic Dementia for 1000, please Alex.

 What is "What's happening in the Rose Garden"?

(Klinker, cute new avatar)

The rationale for going red or blue.....

https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2019/09/26/democratic-and-republican-flaws-party-registration-comes-down-coin-toss

mtierney said:

The rationale for going red or blue.....

https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2019/09/26/democratic-and-republican-flaws-party-registration-comes-down-coin-toss

If you think choosing party affiliation in the era of Trump is a coin toss, I would strongly recommend you register as a republican.

Trump refers to two Jewish men and four women of color as "savages". Nice!

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/off-rails-president-takes-twitter-161950168.html

basil said:

If you think choosing party affiliation in the era of Trump is a coin toss, I would strongly recommend you register as a republican.

this is a person who is a one-issue voter, but wants us to think he agonized over this decision and weighed all the possible ramifications.  That's fine if being anti-abortion is your one issue, but don't pretend it isn't.  Because anyone who is truly "pro-life" is prioritizing fetuses over living people if they vote Republican.  This author in particular, who used to work to save people on death row.  Try and find a Republican elected official anywhere in the country who's against the death penalty.  Try and find a Republican in Congress who wants to extend health coverage to more people.  The GOP refusal to extend health coverage in many states literally leads to people dying earlier.  How is that "pro-life"?

We read, see, what we want. This excerpt defines HRC’s defeat in 2016. She lost credibility on many levels and ran a poor campaign, truly thinking she could not lose what she believed she had earned. Chutzpah?

“For years, I had few regrets, even though, under New York’s system, I had to watch primaries from the sidelines. Then came the 2016 presidential election. Would we get the overt racist and misogynist, the solipsistic man-boy who promised waterboarding and “a hell of a lot worse” and advocated killing the families of terrorists? Or would it be the candidate who, pantsuit aside, resembled the smart, secretive, calculating Richard Nixon—the candidate whose stance on abortion resembled the uncompromising pro-choice slogan “abortion on demand and without apology” more than it resembled her position in 2007 that abortion should be “safe, legal and rare, and by rare, I mean rare”? Some choice.”

The flaw is characterizing those who are "Pro-Choice" as being pro abortion. 

I am not in favor of women having abortions I am against criminally prosecuting them for doing so or criminally prosecuting healthcare providers from providing the services those women desire.

Imagine that the "Pro-Life" movement spent all its efforts convincing people that abortion was a bad choice instead of trying to make it a crime.

Smoking has been seriously reduced in this country without sending one smoker or one seller of cigarettes to jail. 

STANV said:

Imagine that the "Pro-Life" movement spent all its efforts convincing people that abortion was a bad choice instead of trying to make it a crime.

Imagine that the “Anti-Murder” movement spent all its efforts convincing people that murder was a bad choice instead of making it a crime. Because from the “Pro-Choice” point of view, that’s what you’re asking.

STANV said:

Smoking has been seriously reduced in this country without sending one smoker or one seller of cigarettes to jail. 

I agree with your overall point, but we shouldn't forget that 'we' skipped right over jail and killed one of them.  That we know of.