What can Maplewood Online do more at the local level?

we could use you guys in there!  lol  blank stare I find it fascinating - especially since it's all about the march to WWIII and the destruction of life as we know it.  (and who's fault it will be)


Too funny! (Er, not the march to WWIII part, but that there seems to be a similar timing to bailing out on the Russia thread).

@ml1  - I apparently read just two more posts than you did before also giving up on that thread!:


ridski said:

I switched off the Russia category, which made it easier. 

I forgot that you can do that.  Thanks!


ridski said:

I just wanted to post this to see if anyone can beat my score of unread What does Putin want posts.

I can beat your score.  I have not read any of the posts on that thread.


joan_crystal said:

I can beat your score.  I have not read any of the posts on that thread.

Yes, but that's cheating!


jamie said:

we could use you guys in there!  lol 
blank stare
I find it fascinating - especially since it's all about the march to WWIII and the destruction of life as we know it.  (and who's fault it will be)

how often does you-know-who comment there?


ml1 said:

how often does you-know-who comment there?

There's only one way to find out grin 


I can’t believe you guys are not even reading the whataboutism in the Russian threads. I avoid MT and her kitties cartoons. That’s no fun!


Jaytee said:

I can’t believe you guys are not even reading the whataboutism in the Russian threads. I avoid MT and her kitties cartoons. That’s no fun!

Some here can be be sure to respond  with  potty humor — it is all they can come up with, perhaps — I prefer political lampooning myself. 

No takers on my earlier post?


jfinnegan said:

ml1 said:

how often does you-know-who comment there?

There's only one way to find out
grin
 

I've got a 10,000+ message streak going. I'm not breaking it just to satisfy that curiosity. 


mtierney said:

Some here can be be sure to respond  with  potty humor — it is all they can come up with, perhaps — I prefer political lampooning myself. 

No takers on my earlier post?

I have to admit, I'm a sucker for humorous venn diagrams and that one was pretty funny. At least the cat doesn't look like someone's torturing it for a meme.


ml1 said:

jamie said:

we could use you guys in there!  lol 
blank stare
I find it fascinating - especially since it's all about the march to WWIII and the destruction of life as we know it.  (and who's fault it will be)

how often does you-know-who comment there?

hmm, you-know-who?  Well, he didn't post on the 24th.  Sometimes he take a break for a day then responds to 10 posts in one sitting.  


jamie said:

ml1 said:

jamie said:

we could use you guys in there!  lol 
blank stare
I find it fascinating - especially since it's all about the march to WWIII and the destruction of life as we know it.  (and who's fault it will be)

how often does you-know-who comment there?

hmm, you-know-who?  Well, he didn't post on the 24th.  Sometimes he take a break for a day then responds to 10 posts in one sitting.  

I don't have patience to participate in two such threads. 


ridski said:

I have to admit, I'm a sucker for humorous venn diagrams and that one was pretty funny. At least the cat doesn't look like someone's torturing it for a meme.

here you go. 


“Make the three-ring sign … ask the man for Ballantine.”


This is a bit crude, content-wise, but here's a bit about venn diagrams from my favorite British panel game show, starring the excellent Holly Walsh.


I've resisted this thread for several years now. Occasionally I'm tempted but then I tear myself away.


ridski said:

This is a bit crude, content-wise, but here's a bit about venn diagrams from my favorite British panel game show, starring the excellent Holly Walsh.

So... As an American, I had to look up Bell Ends, and I'm going to say, it wasn't at all what I was expecting.


BarneyGumble said:

Delete the Politics Section.  Was allowed to be overrun and destroyed the site, imho.

If by overrun you are referring to it being dominated at times by certain posters, I understand your reaction, but, delete it, never. I'm on Facebook mainly because it is where all cat and dog rescues go to ask for help as well as respond. to the need.

But for politics, Facebook as was pointed out, is not conversational. I do follow Lesniak (now fighting against the bear hunt) and Cory Booker. Little discussion on MOL about animal issues.

Personally I thought All Politics on MOL was more active with a broader selection of posters when it was on the main page. Also thought we lost female posters due to the contentious nature of some of the posters. I have pestered a few women to post but that was their take. For new people it can be intimidating to post if they feel they will either be ignored or criticized. But from my perspective, silence is never an option.

It's still one of my favorite spots on MOL.

Not sure this belongs in the Maplewood Only section, this from a South Orange resident.


Barney can always block the political section, but he lurks and gets his blood pressure up when he could avoid the drama. 
The nutcases who overran the political section are all gone.. you can’t be calling someone a fat f*^’ just because they’re a liberal…


kthnry said:

I've resisted this thread for several years now. Occasionally I'm tempted but then I tear myself away.

So, you really don’t know what’s happening in Washington and the Rose Garden? Lots, I can assure you, hundreds and hundreds more posts—plus cartoons! Do not be afraid. 

One question I have, however, if you ever hear that I had asked, is:  This thread is decades old, and you never even peeked?


joan_crystal said:

Jamie:  Hear are some suggestions based on current issues of interest in Maplewood.

Recycling.  There is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding.  Some has been addressed in the existing thread.  It would be helpful to have a Q & A thread with a knowledgeable expert answering questions posted to a dedicated thread.

Animal Control.  St Hubert's contract has come to an end.  There is a temporary contract with Bloomfield that will only last for the next six months.  There are questions as to how to surrender animals now since Bloomfield will not take them and what the best long term solution would be.  Lots animal rescue and TNvR interest on MOL could support a discussion of next steps.

Revaluation.  Happening now in Maplewood and South Orange.  MOL has hosted a map in the past which tracked data for each property as the new assessments became available.  That would certainly create interest now.  Space where posters can share information and advice would also be welcome.

Accessibility has become an in topic.  Senior transportation in Maplewood is getting an accessible bus.  Maplewood TC is pushing for a more accessible train station.  A major pedestrian safety study of Maplewood has just begun.  Space where residents could post locations considered hazardous to pedestrians would be helpful.

Master Plan:  A space where residents and visitors can suggest ways in which the Master Plan can be adjusted to reflect present needs in Maplewood.  Maybe the Master Plan consultants would be willing to monitor it as a place to discuss issues that may not have been raised in the public meetings they have held.

On the issue of losing St. Hubert's, here's the thread I started a few months ago. I've been in constant touch with the shared Health Officer Candice Davenport as well as Village President Sheena Collum. The contract does not accept our residents' animal surrenders to the Bloomfield Shelter.  There is no Trap Neuter Return but if our residents wish to trap, transport and return, there are spots for spay/neuter for ferals through Associated Humane in Newark by appointment. It is sponsored by the county and is free until the funds are used up. AHS will give preference to residents of towns that cotract with them but some spots are available in February.

Last year St. Hs took in 107 cats from Maplewood and between 50 and 70 from South Orange, some discrepancy in those numbers.

I have offered to oversee a voucher program if South Orange is willing for those who can not get an appointment.

The contracts were just signed recently so I will update the thread. Sadly most do not check the Pets and Animals category.

South Orange & Maplewood are losing their contract with St. Hubert's

Started by Morganna 28 comment(s) Most recent by Morganna 3 months ago Category Pets & Animals

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Wasn't a 6 month agreement signed with Bloomfield? I thought I heard that at the Maplewood town meeting. The monthly fee seemed extremely expensive. 


galileo said:

Wasn't a 6 month agreement signed with Bloomfield? I thought I heard that at the Maplewood town meeting. The monthly fee seemed extremely expensive. 

Yes but it did not provide for surrender of animals to the Bloomfield shelter.  TNvR started as a community based movement.  I was unaware that St Hubert's was involved in that while they were contracted to do our animal control.


galileo said:

Wasn't a 6 month agreement signed with Bloomfield? I thought I heard that at the Maplewood town meeting. The monthly fee seemed extremely expensive. 

Yes, but it doesn't cover the 2 things that most people are concerned about.

The reality is that several neighboring towns have their own small shelters. A few contract with other towns but space is tight, and those that aspire to be No Kill, that is they do not wish to kill for space, are reluctant to contract with other towns.

Associated Humane in Newark contracts with 13 towns and has space for 120 dogs and 250 cats. More than once they have reached 500 cats and ask that 501C3 rescues, such as mine, take cats from them but most of us are quite full. I'm the one 501 in South Orange and Maplewood and I'm too small to handle the numbers that our towns are seeing.

On the towns website it is suggested that our residents can surrender pets to AHS, which seemed odd to me, so I called, I was instantly asked what town and immediately told no, as we do not contract with them. So I asked explicitly if only residents of towns who contract with AHS can surrender to them and they said yes. I told them it was listed on our website and they replied that it should be taken down. 

I've sent 2 emails to Ms. Davenport, and copied in our Village President to please remove the misinformation. It has been weeks and it is still up there.

Sadly most of the first two litters of female strays are born in the next 6 months. Bloomfield just posted about a pregnant female turned into their shelter, not sure from where as they contract with their town and 2 others. Our 2 towns brings it up to 5.


joan_crystal said:

Yes but it did not provide for surrender of animals to the Bloomfield shelter.  TNvR started as a community based movement.  I was unaware that St Hubert's was involved in that while they were contracted to do our animal control.

I worked with Furry Hearts to do TNR in Maplewood durin the time I also had my own rescue Morgan Le Fay Cat Rescue. 

People for Animals then contracted with South Orange and Maplewood to do it but their hope was that residents would participate. They also offered to take over the empty shelter but that didn't happen. They then ended their contract and St. Hubert's took over. They did it all, you called for an appointment, they trapped on Thursdays, spayed/neutered on Friday for free to our two towns, scheduled to deliver. They made a huge difference but they handled 19 towns so they made the decision to discontinue ACO and TNR services to alll 19 towns.

For residents to do it, they would have to get an appointment, trap successfully on that day, and get to Newark (free) or People for Animals, (65 - 80) Hillside in the AM then pick up about 5, then hold the cat through recovery, and at last release. It gets complicated when you find kittens or pregnant females.

I just held our first of the year a few weeks ago that a resident trapped.


Looking into the legal issues involved in social media postings by government might be a good idea.  It would be great if Morganna's posts, for example, were read and responded to by town officials.  There was a time when they were willing to engage on social media other than Facebook.  They probably focus on Facebook because around 17,000 people have signed up for SOMA Lounge, but it seems unfair that if you want to join a public discussion with township officials about matters of significance to the community, you have to give your personal information to a corporation that monetizes it and behaves irresponsibly both politically and socially.  


Elle_Cee said:

Looking into the legal issues involved in social media postings by government might be a good idea.  It would be great if Morganna's posts, for example, were read and responded to by town officials.  There was a time when they were willing to engage on social media other than Facebook.  They probably focus on Facebook because around 17,000 people have signed up for SOMA Lounge, but it seems unfair that if you want to join a public discussion with township officials about matters of significance to the community, you have to give your personal information to a corporation that monetizes it and behaves irresponsibly both politically and socially.  

all of our town meetings are open.  Everyone can speak.  I regularly attend DPW meetings, and the handful of residents there get a hearing and answers.  I'm sure every committee is the same, and you can do it online.  I think that it is too much to ask of our town trustees to answer the same questions online over and over.  I think that's why most have pulled back.  They were spending huge amounts of volunteer time answering questions better asked of paid staff or simply looked up on the towns web site.


Township officials don't need to engage in protracted discussions here, or anywhere else, but the sharing of basic info here, as was done recently on Facebook with regard to recycling, would be helpful.  Vic De Luca posts from time to time on Nextdoor, and his informative posts are appreciated.  The Township needs a designated social media communicator.  I haven't taken the time to research state policy, but I would imagine that the way Township officials communicate via social media is governed by law.  


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