TRUMPCARE

He says the biggest losers today are "Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer". Um, nope. Ha-ha!

it's too bad because he's right about Obamacare needing help. It's sad we can't put great minds together to really make the necessary improvements to it. And it's super-sad that the President of our country seems to think it's okay to look forward to its' implosion.

Bizarre. Improving access to affordable healthcare is a core goal of the Democratic Party. Trumpcare was by every conceivable measure a step backwards. Tit for tat partisan politics not withstanding, why would a single Democrat support Trumpcare. I think Trump is a little confused about this idea of core values.

conandrob240 said:

"It was very, very close. We had no democrats that would support us so we couldn't get there."

Um, you have the majority. You did not need a single Democratic vote. This failed because YOU couldn't even get YOUR OWN PARTY to vote for it. Donald, YOU failed.

How much time did Captain Attention Span, as opposed to GOP legislators, even spend on conjuring up a health plan? He worked the phones for a day on behalf of someone else's plan, not one word of which he read, and he's had enough so he's moving on to other agenda items? That's it for a centerpiece of his campaign and a centerpiece of GOP policy for 8 years? He's dead

It's hard to understand why they expended so much political capital on a bill that had almost no public support. What was the poll number -- something like 17% in favor?

bub said:

How much time did Captain Attention Span, as opposed to GOP legislators, even spend on conjuring up a health plan? He worked the phones for a day on behalf of someone else's plan, not one word of which he read, and he's had enough so he's moving on to other agenda items? That's it for a centerpiece of his campaign and a centerpiece of GOP policy for 8 years? He's dead

He worked his behind off lobbying anyone who happened to be in the Mar-a-Lago dining room or on his Florida golf course.

Seriously, after putting his credibility on the line and knowing the bill was hanging by a thread, he still couldn't be bothered to learn even basic information about the bill. Watch his last-gasp Instagram video. Not one detail about the bill or what it would accomplish. All he said, for the umpteenth time, was that Obamacare was "exploding" and that his healthcare bill would be "terrific."

C'mon GOP; is it gonna explode or implode?

ml1 said:

I beat him to it

GL2 said:

Best line so far, from Jake Tapper: are we tired of all the winning yet?

You get full credit.

I know I shouldn't be surprised, ever, at a Trump lie. But today he said he never said repealing Obamacare would be quick or easy, although he promised back in January the following:

President-elect Trump on Wednesday said a "repeal-and-replace" plan for Obamacare would be submitted as soon as the Senate approves his nominee, Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., for secretary of the U.S. Health and Human Services Department.

"It will be essentially simultaneously," Trump said. "The same day or the same week ... could be the same hour."

I've not yet heard anyone in the press comment about this. I guess at some point, you just get tired of correcting the record. Which is part of the plan, I guess.

One of my fav TV Faces said and I'm paraphrasing:

Today Trump's cynicism was palpable.

Imagine your local fire Chief watching a local building burn and saying:

We're going to do nothing, it will be ashes.

He's toast!

Best Regards,

Ron Carter

and geez, is there a bigger whiner than this guy? Do his supporters not even see this part of his personality?

good tweet from Sen. Menendez

Hey Republicans, don’t worry, that burn is covered under the Affordable Care Act

— Senator Bob Menendez (@SenatorMenendez) March 24, 2017

oopsie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT3Px11xN-0

ETA: hey. how come the video is not embedded?

Calling technical support!

Thanks for the heads up - back to the drawing board on this one - embed script seems to work.

drummerboy said:

oopsie



ETA: hey. how come the video is not embedded?

Calling technical support!

My very favorite part is how he is just going to give up and move on to something else. LOVE it! This may be our saving grace!

Well, he says first it's going to implode then it'll expose. Lol

GL2 said:

C'mon GOP; is it gonna explode or implode?

lol

it was pretty surprising that Kushner was away this week: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/jared-kushner-aspen-ski-trip-obamacare/index.html

Trump and Price can still do a lot of damage through waivers and other administrative actions.

I really don't think we Democrats should celebrate. First, this was not a Democratic success but a Republican failure. Second, maybe the next time they will just repeal, and not replace. Third, the ACA does need improvement, and there really is no path that I see to improve it right now. The Democrats don't have the votes for that. So if in two years it has gotten worse the repeal will be easier.

Or in 4 years a single payer will be easier.

I'll take a Republican failure right now. What this meant to me is some sliver of hope that at least some of the very worst plans won't pass. That's better than the hopelessness many of us felt for the past 5 months

Gilgul said:

Trump and Price can still do a lot of damage through waivers and other administrative actions.

Yes, there will be no rest until all of the safety-net programs are blown up and pounded into dust. The cheek of some proposals that provide frivolous things like mammograms and prenatal care. 

conandrob240 said:

it's too bad because he's right about Obamacare needing help. It's sad we can't put great minds together to really make the necessary improvements to it. And it's super-sad that the President of our country seems to think it's okay to look forward to its' implosion.

Trump soiled himself craving for the implosion of Obamacare. The Trump administration will do everything possible to make this happen.

FilmCarp said:

I really don't think we Democrats should celebrate. First, this was not a Democratic success but a Republican failure. Second, maybe the next time they will just repeal, and not replace. Third, the ACA does need improvement, and there really is no path that I see to improve it right now. The Democrats don't have the votes for that. So if in two years it has gotten worse the repeal will be easier.

It's a victory for the resistance. The resistance had a big part in the outcome.

yeah, I think this was as much a victory for an energized public as it was a Republican failure. And the fact that the ACA finally has enough public support that politicians are listening can be considered a success for the ACA and the Dem leadership that managed to get it passed.

I don't think a full repeal is even close to being a possibility, unless something totally unforeseen happens. Don't forget, a full repeal can't be done by reconciliation, so the Dems can obstruct.

Personally, I think Obamacare will become less of a headline issue for the R's. How long can you say that Obamacare is going to implode any day now when it never does? And they can scream about huge premium increases til the cows come home, but the fact is that most people are going to realize that, hey, my premiums didn't go up a ridiculous amount. What are they talking about?

At some point, even Republican voters will figure out it's b.s.

shoshannah said:

FilmCarp said:

I really don't think we Democrats should celebrate. First, this was not a Democratic success but a Republican failure. Second, maybe the next time they will just repeal, and not replace. Third, the ACA does need improvement, and there really is no path that I see to improve it right now. The Democrats don't have the votes for that. So if in two years it has gotten worse the repeal will be easier.

It's a victory for the resistance. The resistance had a big part in the outcome.

shoshannah said:

It's a victory for the resistance. The resistance had a big part in the outcome.

I agree.

March 14, 2017 -- thinkprogress.org: Paul Ryan is an Epic Failure

https://thinkprogress.org/paul-ryan-is-an-epic-failure-8e2e0b62e3d3#.q2ias3rny

Friday's non-vote was a tactical win for the Democrats. Now, Trump will try to kill the ACA by a thousand cuts and will try to blame the Democrats for the failure saying that the ACA was a disaster from the start. In order to really win, grass roots support for the ACA has to be brought to bear on moderate Republicans and the Democrats have to make sure it is clear to all that Trump is in charge and owns the failure of Obamacare if he tries to kill it by various executive measures.

Any perceived failure of ACA lies with the previous administration and congress. This is the time to improve ACA if the legislature has the cajones to actually do some work.