Wow! An adult discussion has broken out about a political issue.

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

Ridski, your sexist, narcissistic, nasty, cztrasian attempts to draw smirks from your MOL buddies at my expense are probably drawing deep yawns by now from many other MOLers.  These attempts at ad hominem humor have jumped the shark. Say goodnight, Ridski.

I'm serious, springgreen2. If you're so bent against Clinton, you should really be backing the Green Party candidate, who would be closest to your goals. Not now, obviously, but when Clinton wins the primary.

Why dont you address your rude comments to Dave or drummerboy? They have both expressed their problems with Hillary? Could it be a sexist thing? Or are you afraid to argue with men?

The_Soulful_Mr_T said:

ridski said:

tjohn said:

springgreen2 said:

@Dave, Thanks for giving expression to the reason I, for one, could not possibly support Clinton.

So, if she is the candidate in November, you plan on not voting?

I'm here to help.

http://www.jill2016.com

Third-party?  ">  ">  ">  "> 

Hello? Ralph Nader? Is Ralph home please...?

It's not my fault this democracy is a complete and utter sham.

ridski said:

The_Soulful_Mr_T said:

ridski said:

tjohn said:

springgreen2 said:

@Dave, Thanks for giving expression to the reason I, for one, could not possibly support Clinton.

So, if she is the candidate in November, you plan on not voting?

I'm here to help.

http://www.jill2016.com

Third-party?  ">  ">  ">  "> 

Hello? Ralph Nader? Is Ralph home please...?

It's not my fault this democracy is a complete and utter sham.

Well, that is where I differ with you. See, I was born in the U S and am glad of it. I believe in this democracy. Why don't you just go back home to England? Perhaps you miss it?

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

The_Soulful_Mr_T said:

ridski said:

tjohn said:

springgreen2 said:

@Dave, Thanks for giving expression to the reason I, for one, could not possibly support Clinton.

So, if she is the candidate in November, you plan on not voting?

I'm here to help.

http://www.jill2016.com

Third-party?  ">  ">  ">  "> 

Hello? Ralph Nader? Is Ralph home please...?

It's not my fault this democracy is a complete and utter sham.

Well, that is where I differ with you. See, I was born in the U S and am glad of it. I believe in this democracy. Why don't you just go back home to England? Perhaps you miss it?

And, so the Trumpisms begin. True colors invariably bleed through. How disgusting !

Dennis_Seelbach said:

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

The_Soulful_Mr_T said:

ridski said:

tjohn said:

springgreen2 said:

@Dave, Thanks for giving expression to the reason I, for one, could not possibly support Clinton.

So, if she is the candidate in November, you plan on not voting?

I'm here to help.

http://www.jill2016.com

Third-party?  ">  ">  ">  "> 

Hello? Ralph Nader? Is Ralph home please...?

It's not my fault this democracy is a complete and utter sham.

Well, that is where I differ with you. See, I was born in the U S and am glad of it. I believe in this democracy. Why don't you just go back home to England? Perhaps you miss it?

And, so the Trumpisms begin. True colors invariably bleed through. How disgusting !

ewww   Seelbach's on the thread. B'bye.

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

Ridski, your sexist, narcissistic, nasty, cztrasian attempts to draw smirks from your MOL buddies at my expense are probably drawing deep yawns by now from many other MOLers.  These attempts at ad hominem humor have jumped the shark. Say goodnight, Ridski.

I'm serious, springgreen2. If you're so bent against Clinton, you should really be backing the Green Party candidate, who would be closest to your goals. Not now, obviously, but when Clinton wins the primary.

Why dont you address your rude commentsto Dave or drummerboy? They have both expressed their problems with Hillary? Could it be a sexist thing?

Both Dave and db are going to vote for the democratic candidate this year, whoever it is. Are you calling me sexist because you're a woman? Are you a woman? I don't think you've said anything to make me believe you are or not, so you must be calling me sexist because I actually read what you write, click on the links you post, then point out that some of your conclusions may be slightly biased based on your preconceived notions. I don't think that's particularly gender-specific.

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

Ridski, your sexist, narcissistic, nasty, cztrasian attempts to draw smirks from your MOL buddies at my expense are probably drawing deep yawns by now from many other MOLers.  These attempts at ad hominem humor have jumped the shark. Say goodnight, Ridski.

I'm serious, springgreen2. If you're so bent against Clinton, you should really be backing the Green Party candidate, who would be closest to your goals. Not now, obviously, but when Clinton wins the primary.

Why dont you address your rude commentsto Dave or drummerboy? They have both expressed their problems with Hillary? Could it be a sexist thing?

Both Dave and db are going to vote for the democratic candidate this year, whoever it is. Are you calling me sexist because you're a woman? Are you a woman? I don't think you've said anything to make me believe you are or not, so you must be calling me sexist because I actually read what you write, click on the links you post, then point out that some of your conclusions may be slightly biased based on your preconceived notions. I don't think that's particularly gender-specific.

I am calling you a sexist because you know damn well I'm a woman, and you hound me. if you read my posts, you would not file such stupid ones. They have no substance, content or inherent value. They are cynical jabs. That's all they bring to the discussion.

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

Ridski, your sexist, narcissistic, nasty, cztrasian attempts to draw smirks from your MOL buddies at my expense are probably drawing deep yawns by now from many other MOLers.  These attempts at ad hominem humor have jumped the shark. Say goodnight, Ridski.

I'm serious, springgreen2. If you're so bent against Clinton, you should really be backing the Green Party candidate, who would be closest to your goals. Not now, obviously, but when Clinton wins the primary.

Why dont you address your rude commentsto Dave or drummerboy? They have both expressed their problems with Hillary? Could it be a sexist thing?

Both Dave and db are going to vote for the democratic candidate this year, whoever it is. Are you calling me sexist because you're a woman? Are you a woman? I don't think you've said anything to make me believe you are or not, so you must be calling me sexist because I actually read what you write, click on the links you post, then point out that some of your conclusions may be slightly biased based on your preconceived notions. I don't think that's particularly gender-specific.

I am calling you a sexist because you know damn well I'm a woman, and you hound me.

I'm an equal-opportunity hound.

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

Ridski, your sexist, narcissistic, nasty, cztrasian attempts to draw smirks from your MOL buddies at my expense are probably drawing deep yawns by now from many other MOLers.  These attempts at ad hominem humor have jumped the shark. Say goodnight, Ridski.

I'm serious, springgreen2. If you're so bent against Clinton, you should really be backing the Green Party candidate, who would be closest to your goals. Not now, obviously, but when Clinton wins the primary.

Why dont you address your rude commentsto Dave or drummerboy? They have both expressed their problems with Hillary? Could it be a sexist thing?

Both Dave and db are going to vote for the democratic candidate this year, whoever it is. Are you calling me sexist because you're a woman? Are you a woman? I don't think you've said anything to make me believe you are or not, so you must be calling me sexist because I actually read what you write, click on the links you post, then point out that some of your conclusions may be slightly biased based on your preconceived notions. I don't think that's particularly gender-specific.

I am calling you a sexist because you know damn well I'm a woman, and you hound me.

I'm an equal-opportunity hound.

Not really. I've never seen you jab, hound, or otherwise taunt a male poster.

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

The_Soulful_Mr_T said:

ridski said:

tjohn said:

springgreen2 said:

@Dave, Thanks for giving expression to the reason I, for one, could not possibly support Clinton.

So, if she is the candidate in November, you plan on not voting?

I'm here to help.

http://www.jill2016.com

Third-party?  ">  ">  ">  "> 

Hello? Ralph Nader? Is Ralph home please...?

It's not my fault this democracy is a complete and utter sham.

Well, that is where I differ with you. See, I was born in the U S and am glad of it. I believe in this democracy. Why don't you just go back home to England? Perhaps you miss it?

dude,

talk about jumping the shark

(Ridski isn't hounding you. Replying isn't hounding.)

dave said:

(Ridski isn't hounding you. Replying isn't hounding.)

He replies with cruel jabs, ostensibly because of my views, but mostly for purposes of deriving pleasure from belittling, a typical sandbox practice, commonly called bullying.

He's British.   I live amongst them.   They mean no harm by it.  It's actually a sign of affection. 

dave said:

He's British.   I live amongst them.   They mean no harm by it.  It's actually a sign of affection. 

Hah! Well, I'm a simple-minded, Kasich-like Midwesterner, born in Chicago and raised in Cleveland. So I'm a plain dealer. I don't fall for phony stuff.

Dennis_Seelbach said:

springgreen2 said:

ridski said:

The_Soulful_Mr_T said:

ridski said:

tjohn said:

springgreen2 said:

@Dave, Thanks for giving expression to the reason I, for one, could not possibly support Clinton.

So, if she is the candidate in November, you plan on not voting?

I'm here to help.

http://www.jill2016.com

Third-party?  ">  ">  ">  "> 

Hello? Ralph Nader? Is Ralph home please...?

It's not my fault this democracy is a complete and utter sham.

Well, that is where I differ with you. See, I was born in the U S and am glad of it. I believe in this democracy. Why don't you just go back home to England? Perhaps you miss it?

And, so the Trumpisms begin. True colors invariably bleed through. How disgusting !

The Trumpism is to do personal attacks on people who disagree with you. @Ctraska, Ridski, these types of attacks on me, are Trumpian. I will bet they are voting for him.

This idea that you might have to vote FOR Cinton is misconceived.  It is perfectly acceptable to vote AGAINST Trump/Cruz/Scalia.

springgreen2 said:

dave said:

He's British.   I live amongst them.   They mean no harm by it.  It's actually a sign of affection. 

Hah! Well, I'm a simple-minded, Kasich-like Midwesterner, born in Chicago and raised in Cleveland. So I'm a plain dealer. I don't fall for phony stuff.

So is Jill Stein, but I dont imagine you read that link.

I'm sorry you think I'm a bully. I shall endeavor to respond no more to you.

ridski said:

springgreen2 said:

dave said:

He's British.   I live amongst them.   They mean no harm by it.  It's actually a sign of affection. 

Hah! Well, I'm a simple-minded, Kasich-like Midwesterner, born in Chicago and raised in Cleveland. So I'm a plain dealer. I don't fall for phony stuff.

So is Jill Stein, but I dont imagine you read that link.

I'm sorry you think I'm a bully. I shall endeavor to respond no more to you.

Just try to respond with respect!     (If possible.)

I don't see any disrespect in any of Ridski's responses to you.

drummerboy said:

I don't see any disrespect in any of Ridski's responses to you.

Fine. That's because he has not turned his prodigious sarcasm on you.

springgreen2 said:

ewww   Seelbach's on the thread. B'bye.

Promises, promises. More that you won't keep.

Dennis_Seelbach said:

springgreen2 said:

ewww   Seelbach's on the thread. B'bye.

Promises, promises. More that you won't keep.

For empty promises (and vague, like "how are you going to do it?") go to HillaryClinton.com.

springgreen2 said:

GL2 said:

springgreen2 said:

What exactly, does she, and do you, want to get done?  This is unclear.  

I'll wait... "> 

You seem much more opposed to HRC than most here are to Bernie. He's my second choice. Who's yours?

I don't see this as a popularity contest.

Huh? I see no relationship between my question and your answer. Who will you vote for if Bernie is not the candidate? Will you vote?

Trump doesn't even make my top 5, but there's no way I'd vote for McAfee. That guy's fricking nuts.

springgreen2 said:

dave said:

He's British.   I live amongst them.   They mean no harm by it.  It's actually a sign of affection. 

Hah! Well, I'm a simple-minded, Kasich-like Midwesterner, born in Chicago and raised in Cleveland. So I'm a plain dealer. I don't fall for phony stuff.

Phony stuff? ridski's MOL's freakin' Mark Twain (3 apostrophes in a row)...or John Cleese. Always good for a laugh, even after you have to google his more obscure allusions. 

Klinker said:

This idea that you might have to vote FOR Cinton is misconceived.  It is perfectly acceptable to vote AGAINST Trump/Cruz/Scalia.

True.  I will probably be voting for who I'm against least.

Dave, I blame you for starting this.  Wish Jamie would superdelegate (see what I did there) the power to ban to me.  ;-)

The rest of you are just incorrigible.

jimmurphy said:

Dave, I blame you for starting this.  Wish Jamie would superdelegate (see what I did there) the power to ban to me.  

The rest of you are just incorrigible.

Maybe so, but I do admire your wordplay.

The isidewith.com is interesting I recommend people try it.  I got 75% McaFee as my number one, I'm not familiar with him at all.  but 75% versus 91% (as shown in the graphic above by Ridski)  means the weighting may matter.  I would be interested in some of the posters scores like jim, hoops or green.  I feel that the more one is 'issue' based the less there is an attachment to a candidate.  

I like that HIllary was for breaking up banks before she was against it.   Easy to get votes when you're on every side of almost every issue.  Shows political savvy. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/09/hillary-clinton-may-be-ready-to-break-up-the-big-banks/