Trump/ Harris debate
Kamala Harris should focus on stating the facts, rather than fact checking (saying, "the truth is" more than "that's a false statement"), and present cogent direct answers. Her mere presence is enough to enrage Trump, and if she doesn't react to his initial attempts to belittle her, he may "ramp up" his offensiveness.
Jaytee said:
Maybe more viewership than the Super Bowl? World Cup soccer? My republican friend asked me if I will be watching the debate, because it will be great to see trump expose her lies. At this point I just don’t respond.
How can someone debate the truth with trump? He doesn’t even know what the word debate means. For someone, like a lawyer perhaps, this can be frustrating because he’s difficult to debate, he doesn’t follow the rules. with complete disregard for structure and norms, his style becomes an unexpectedly effective strategy. The moderators should be keeping him in check when he doesn’t answer questions. He uses these debates as his own personal rallying.
I would love to see Kamala just take the gloves off and go full “Madea” on him, it’s time to put this man in his place.
What is "his place"?
ABC better ask him why he is spreading lies like Dems supporting infanticide, kids getting their penises cut off in school and Haitians eating cats.
10 to 1 they won't. Hope I'm wrong.
mrincredible said:
RealityForAll said:
What is "his place"?
Jail.
Which begs the question, for what crime(s)?
I'll be watching with these guys. They are posting drinking game rules later tonight.
While we're recommending games...
From NPR Planet Money, a bingo card of economy terms for use during the debate: https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2024/09/04/g-s1-20299/planet-money-debate-bingo
Personally, since i already know who i will vote for, i am going to spare myself tonight's event. Counting on y'all, and others, to give me the gist after/tomorrow.
I’ll be watching, at least for a while. I’ll provide expert commentary on here, so be sure to check in later.
I'm all in. I love debates. Starting now with the pre debate coverage.
Morganna said:
I'm all in. I love debates. Starting now with the pre debate coverage.
Okay, but pace yourself …
Jaytee said:
Sbenois…. If you’re out there… I miss you.
And STANV, please check in!
RealityForAll said:
mrincredible said:
RealityForAll said:
What is "his place"?
Jail.
Which begs the question, for what crime(s)?
the ones he was convicted of?
I was looking forward to missing this debate completely. I can’t stand hearing or seeing that man, and there’s nothing that he will say that I can’t read about tomorrow.
But apparently my daughter has to watch for US History class. I can’t let her endure that alone.
Harris winning so far. First 20 minutes was about a draw but last 10 mins Harris is getting some separation.
mrincredible said:
I was looking forward to missing this debate completely. I can’t stand hearing or seeing that man, and there’s nothing that he will say that I can’t read about tomorrow.
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I'm right there with ya. I just turned it on, against my better judgement. Trump was speaking. 3 seconds was all I could take. Watching Goodfellas on AMC instead.
Smedley said:
Harris winning so far. First 20 minutes was about a draw but last 10 mins Harris is getting some separation.
I gotta ask. Winning in what sense? Can't possibly be "answering cogently" if the first 20 minutes were a draw.
drummerboy said:
I gotta ask. Winning in what sense? Can't possibly be "answering cogently" if the first 20 minutes were a draw.
go back to it- it’s getting good
all downhill after bringing up crowd sizes
Offer your own opinion if you have one rather than apparently starting an argument with mine.
Trump needs Biden.
Harris is much better than she was in 2019.
Trump is ranting bizarrely. If this doesn't have an effect on voters nothing will.
And the pessimist in me says it won't.
Smedley said:
Offer your own opinion if you have one rather than apparently starting an argument with mine.
Trump needs Biden.
Harris is much better than she was in 2019.
I just asked a question. I'm curious why you think it was a draw in the beginning.
I'm not watching and won't, so I have no opinion yet.
Except about the NYT, who just can't help themselves. Here's a fact check.
“Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.”
— Vice President Kamala Harris
False.
Unemployment spiked to its worst levels since the Great Depression in the pandemic recession of 2020, but it was 6.4 percent the month Trump left office. That’s nowhere near the worst rate since the Depression.
I guess it depends on what "left us" means. Regardless, the NYT's take is nuts.
Can I still say "nuts"?
ml1 said:
Trump is ranting bizarrely. If this doesn't have an effect on voters nothing will.
And the pessimist in me says it won't.
problem is that the voters who might possibly be susceptible to being affected are undoubtedly not watching in any significant number.
The strategy seems to be to egg him on to say things that people will find crazy. And it has been effective. That being said, the moderators are correcting him on everything he says that is not true and they are letting Kamala slide.
“Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people and he’s having a difficult time processing that.”
Priceless.
terp said:
The strategy seems to be to egg him on to say things that people will find crazy. And it has been effective. That being said, the moderators are correcting him on everything he says that is not true and they are letting Kamala slide.
um, he doesn't need to be egged on to say crazy things. actual crazy things. not things "that people will find crazy", which implies that the crazy things he says are not actually crazy.
has he said yet that you shouldn't be surprised if you sent Johnny to school today and he came home without a penis? cuz that's pretty crazy.
nohero said:
“Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people and he’s having a difficult time processing that.”
Priceless.
good line. whoever suggested that gets a bonus.
terp said:
The strategy seems to be to egg him on to say things that people will find crazy. And it has been effective. That being said, the moderators are correcting him on everything he says that is not true and they are letting Kamala slide.
he said "illegal aliens" in jail are getting gender reassignment surgery.
Trump is plain bizarre. Is this why people like him? He’s said nothing of substance
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Maybe more viewership than the Super Bowl? World Cup soccer? My republican friend asked me if I will be watching the debate, because it will be great to see trump expose her lies. At this point I just don’t respond.
How can someone debate the truth with trump? He doesn’t even know what the word debate means. For someone, like a lawyer perhaps, this can be frustrating because he’s difficult to debate, he doesn’t follow the rules. with complete disregard for structure and norms, his style becomes an unexpectedly effective strategy. The moderators should be keeping him in check when he doesn’t answer questions. He uses these debates as his own personal rallying.
I would love to see Kamala just take the gloves off and go full “Madea” on him, it’s time to put this man in his place.