At last, some good news coming out of Washington — this bipartisan bill was forced into limbo and made a hostage by Democrats! Months of delays while Democrats played what they had foolishly thought was a winning hand. Building America Back Better gets everyone on board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/06/us/states-infrastructure-bill-funding.html
mtierney said:
At last, some good news coming out of Washington — this bipartisan bill was forced into limbo and made a hostage by Democrats! Months of delays while Democrats played what they had foolishly thought was a winning hand. Building America Back Better gets everyone on board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/06/us/states-infrastructure-bill-funding.html
You do realize that many, many of the Republican representatives who opposed this bill are calling those who voted for it "traitors," and are vowing that the traitors will be primaried, right?
They are calling the bill "communist" and socialism.
Why is it that so many in your party do not consider this to be "good news," as you do?
By the way, CNN was literally doing self-parody on Friday evening. At 7:00 pm, the program opened with "Dems in Disarray", about the bipartisan infrastructure bill. Five hours later, of course, it had passed the House.
"ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: OUTFRONT next the breaking news, Democrats in disarray tonight. The Chair of the Progressive Caucus dealing President Biden a blow, refusing to back his agenda as Pelosi is still pushing forward with a vote."
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/ebo/date/2021-11-05/segment/01
drifting from the Times:
How different is "play the role of police officer" from "act as vigilante"?
He was a kid, who may have been playing a good guy in a game of cops and robbers, but his gun was real, and now two guys are dead and one is partially disabled. Maybe he's not going to turn out to be a felon/murderer under the law, but imo he owes these families big time, a "debt to society" there? And ditto or more regarding the people who encouraged and enabled him.
end drift?
mjc said:
drifting from the Times:
How different is "play the role of police officer" from "act as vigilante"?
He was a kid, who may have been playing a good guy in a game of cops and robbers, but his gun was real, and now two guys are dead and one is partially disabled. Maybe he's not going to turn out to be a felon/murderer under the law, but imo he owes these families big time, a "debt to society" there? And ditto or more regarding the people who encouraged and enabled him.
end drift?
Arguably, he's also a victim of gun culture. Obviously nothing even approaching an equivalence here with the men he shot and killed, but it is a reminder I think that toxic cultures also harm their "winners" -- here turning a kid who wanted to be one of the good guys into a killer. Whatever his life going forward is, it's been forever deformed by this.
drummerboy said:
Fox News or NYT?
Not sure what you see as non-factual here. Misguided on the kid’s part, and certainly criminal, but factual. How is this evidence of bad reporting?
jimmurphy said:
drummerboy said:
Fox News or NYT?
Not sure what you see as non-factual here. Misguided on the kid’s part, and certainly criminal, but factual. How is this evidence of bad reporting?
The "at least one mission" line makes it seem as if that's really what he was doing there.
nohero said:
The "at least one mission" line makes it seem as if that's really what he was doing there.
By “at least one,” doesn’t that leave open the possibility that he had other motives? Having known lots of soldiers, they believe in that mission. And I could see many taking it too far.
Not sure how that is bad reporting, though.
jimmurphy said:
drummerboy said:
Fox News or NYT?
Not sure what you see as non-factual here. Misguided on the kid’s part, and certainly criminal, but factual. How is this evidence of bad reporting?
you don't see that as perhaps unreasonably sympathetic and buying into his own defense narrative?
It's not even reporting.
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drummerboy said:
you don't see that as perhaps unreasonably sympathetic and buying into his own defense narrative?
It's not even reporting.
I don’t. I believe that was his motive going in.
jimmurphy said:
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drummerboy said:
you don't see that as perhaps unreasonably sympathetic and buying into his own defense narrative?
It's not even reporting.
I don’t. I believe that was his motive going in.
why would you believe that? and who goes somewhere to play medic with no equipment other than an (illegal) AR-15?
the point is that this is an example of mind-reading "reporting". It is based on nothing other than the word of the defendant.
I don’t buy the medic angle, but I do buy the assumed police officer role.
I am not in any way saying he was right, just that based upon many people I have come in contact with, this is very plausible, and more likely than not what he believed going in.
I couldn’t find the article, (as opposed to the tweet), but wouldn’t this be one that they label an analytical piece?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "analytical" piece, but it's not labeled as anything.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/us/kyle-rittenhouse-who-is.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
The piece also doesn't state how it arrived at its information about his past. No mention of sources.
That first paragraph, which for most people is probably the most memorable part of the piece, is just horrible.
They label many articles “Times Analysis.” I don’t delve into Twitter, because I find it to be a cesspool. Deleted my account.
Again, I don’t find it unbelievable at all that the kid went there to play cop. Nothing they wrote made him sound sympathetic to me.
meanwhile, WaPo is getting completely trashed on Twitter for an op-ed that tries to tie CRT to Immanuel Kant by completely misreading Kant..
The Times Sunday Review has the clearest take on the CRT I have screen so far…
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/opinion/critical-race-theory.html
What’s happening in California will come back to haunt everyone of us.
mtierney said:
What’s happening in California will come back to haunt everyone of us.
The “clearest take on the CRT” you have seen so far explicitly lays out reasons not to be haunted by it.
mtierney said:
The Times Sunday Review has the clearest take on the CRT I have screen so far…
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/opinion/critical-race-theory.html
What’s happening in California will come back to haunt everyone of us.
Yeah, that's clearly not his point.
ml1 said:
best takedown of Beltway punditry actually comes from a NYT book review.
Yeah I saw that. Excellent job.
Don't you get some freebies every month from the Times? Or are some things always behind the wall?
drummerboy said:
Don't you get some freebies every month from the Times? Or are some things always behind the wall?
Subscribers can also gift up to 10 articles a month with non-subscribers.
We're halfway through the month, and I don't want STANV to feel left out, so here you go: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/16/books/review-betrayal-final-act-trump-show-jonathan-karl.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSVUaBSbfWt8ktVqciObOzaN5jHLiNiGEQDIHweUTCozF8kzRILZ5et4rmi-bQ8AEMrgpTeByx-kaPEV3T0-ovp6A0twjEhkClLiSDCkwzo6fGvcx6yPrZW20b-4hlOLutBzedWHhXqzA1XwhJhJv8pNjaQn52XADlfqVFe9-2sJsnqt0XuAMTjwHYSGJuvjqGk8-bI3ANkeAn1FwD-JJWjjTncqf66YDdmhSClHHRHB-4wUs-Y8WeYNXbOukcUlWKIepiq4RC2drMI-pG5QyIoPUnL9hurTLwgee0dhPPPL32pJj-d552ORs1A&smid=url-share
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