How to cancel an election/Trump's plan if he loses

Red_Barchetta

Jul 9, 2020 at 12:20pm Edited

Smedley said:

ml1 said:

Smedley said:

Well that was a lot of hullabaloo for an academic exercise.

did you really think the Senate would convict? I don't know anyone who thought it was a probability.

Of course not. That was always a prayer.

Note I said earlier that the failure of impeachment was that it didn't remove trump from office nor did it sway public opinion.

Do you really think Pelosi, a career politician and a strident adversary of POTUS, moved on impeachment purely as an issue of right and wrong? Something from the Girl Scout code or something? Not at all as a political move meant to weaken Trump ahead of an election?

Come on, man.

That was the failure of impeachment -- that it didn't weaken Trump politically at all. If anything it turned out being a marginal benefit for him, because while the left was demoralized at how the whole thing went pffft with the electorate, it fired up the MAGA side by playing right into Trump's aggrieved, poor-me narrative

Too many people start with the assumption (either consciously or not) that there is some level of decency or rationality within the mind of Trump and his base. This mistake is made every single day. So because impeachment failed, they have the rallying cry that time and money was wasted and Trump was fully exonerated. Yes, since impeachment failed they do have this as a talking point. What everyone is not understanding is that these people will ALWAYS have some rallying cry based on a grain of truth. In this case it would be some thing like 'See, they are too cowardly to even attempt to impeach our greatest president in the history of the country'. Refraining from following a proper prescribed course of action because doing so will initiate retaliation is not an option.

This is a fight. When you step into a the ring do you hang back and not hit the other guy hoping that he won't hit you? Of course not. He's going to hit you regardless of what you do. So use every tool in your arsenal, and fulfill the responsibilities given to you by the Constitution and the voters.

ETA: Trump was weakened by the impeachment. It's in his brain that forever he will have that asterisk next to his name. He's not only #45, he's #3. Every time he thinks about it or hears someone mention it, a little more acid burns through his stomach lining.