Hillary's America...

kthnry said:

Wow, how often do you see such a big gap between the critics' score and the audience score on rottentomatoes?

That's actually much less of a spread than I would think. I'd peg the audience as 95% people who are Trump supporters and Hillary-haters desperately needing validation of their conspiracy theories. Of course they will like it. 

(Though maybe it's so bad that only 80% of them actually liked it).

You can't judge a propaganda film on audience score, since the audience who would not like it simply would never go see it in the first place.


Without having seen any of his films I will give him the benefit of the doubt, but in my heart of hearts I just know that I have learned more real facts about past events in America from 3 seasons of Drunk History than I will from all three of convicted felon Dinesh D'Souza movies. 


RobB said:

In a world, where some 70 year old lifelong public servant is considered the antichrist even though her policies are more in line with the status quo than any other candidate...from convicted felon Dinesh D'Souza, it's...Hillary's America (great title, by the way).

"Michael Moore doesn’t make documentaries. He produces polemics.
And there’s nothing essentially wrong with that, except that a failure to know the difference is dangerous"1 .   .   .

and leads to people with a different viewpoint creating/producing the current Hillary Clinton movie/polemic.

1-  jbuchbinder.com/b/documentary-polemic-and-propaganda.html


ajc is very influenced by what he sees at the movies. I recall when returned from seeing "An Inconvenient Truth" and posted how concerned he had become about global warming. 


ajc said:
"Margaret Sanger" is just a small blip in the movie. She's one of Lying Hillary's many radical mentors; 

Margaret Sanger died in September 1966 less than two years after Hillary was campaigning for Barry Goldwater. She must have spent much of her final months converting Hillary.


tjohn said:

Are you completely nuts?  Do you suppose African Americans don't understand that the Democratic Party shed the racists in the course of passing civil rights legislation and those racists found a new home in the Republican Party.

Are you incapable of understanding that the party of Lincoln is no longer the Republican Party.
ajc said:
 IMHO, it's a must see for blacks, (AKA African Americans);who have been screwed so badly for so long, they don't know what to believe anymore. 

Black folk (AKA African Americans) are not very bright and are in desperate need of people like Art to educate them.


Me:  Siri, Where can i see Hillary's America.

Siri:  Eff you, Nazi.

https://twitter.com/bakedalaska/status/760270309702246400


LOST said:
tjohn said:

Are you completely nuts?  Do you suppose African Americans don't understand that the Democratic Party shed the racists in the course of passing civil rights legislation and those racists found a new home in the Republican Party.

Are you incapable of understanding that the party of Lincoln is no longer the Republican Party.
ajc said:
 IMHO, it's a must see for blacks, (AKA African Americans);who have been screwed so badly for so long, they don't know what to believe anymore. 

Black folk (AKA African Americans) are not very bright and are in desperate need of people like Art to educate them.

I imagine it will get rave reviews amongst the blacks in Tanzania.


Robert_Casotto said:

Me:  Siri, Where can i see Hillary's America.

Siri:  Eff you, Nazi.

https://twitter.com/bakedalaska/status/760270309702246400

Amusing.


Dear " tjohn", Are you completely nuts pal? Do you actually believe that if 96% of African American voters really understood the truth about the roots, and still active racial activities of the Democratic Party, that they would still be card carrying members?

It seems to me that AJC doesn't think that African-Americans know what is good for them. Why?


librarylady said:

It seems to me that AJC doesn't think that African-Americans know what is good for them. Why?

It's kind of traditional attitude. 


tjohn said:
librarylady said:

It seems to me that AJC doesn't think that African-Americans know what is good for them. Why?

It's kind of traditional attitude. 

Are we going to pretend the left doesn't advance similar categorical arguments?

https://www.google.com/search?q=middle+class.votes+against+their+interests&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS612US612&oq=middle+class.votes+against+their+interests&aqs=chrome..69i57j0&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-US


Jackson_Fusion said:
tjohn said:
librarylady said:

It seems to me that AJC doesn't think that African-Americans know what is good for them. Why?

It's kind of traditional attitude. 

Are we going to pretend the left doesn't advance similar categorical arguments?

https://www.google.com/search?q=middle+class.votes+against+their+interests&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS612US612&oq=middle+class.votes+against+their+interests&aqs=chrome..69i57j0&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-US

As PVW noted in a post somewhere, the Democratic Party is moderated by the membership of many people of color.


tjohn said:

Are you completely nuts?  YES, HE IS.


Do you suppose African Americans don't understand that the Democratic Party shed the racists in the course of passing civil rights legislation and those racists found a new home in the Republican Party. YES, HE DOES..

Are you incapable of understanding that the party of Lincoln is no longer the Republican Party.
YES, HE IS


ajc said:
"Margaret Sanger" is just a small blip in the movie. She's one of Lying Hillary's many radical mentors; really no big deal, she is just another racist Democrat in the film. IMHO, it's a must see for blacks, (AKA African Americans);who have been screwed so badly for so long, they don't know what to believe anymore. Also, all the younger, gullible, high minded folks who still believe in "Hope and Change". And, of course there's no hope for all the run of the mill left wing nuts, like most of you who are addicted to the Political Soap box, and who will never go to see the film. Listen, I'm not going to waste my time by arguing the merits of seeing the film on MOL. I'm just happy to be the messenger... Adding one more thing, if any of you remain Democrats after seeing this film; and learn the history of who and what the Democrat Party really is, you have to be really messed up...

tjohn said: Are you completely nuts? The better question is; " Is everyone completely nuts?" But first you have to watch "CLINTON CASH" on OANN, and then decide.... You can catch it at noon today...

ajc said:
tjohn said: Are you completely nuts? The better question is; " Is everyone completely nuts?" But first you have to watch "CLINTON CASH" on OANN, and then decide.... You can catch it at noon today...

You are a man without shame still supporting Trump after the things he has said and done.  HRC is just a politician and I can make any prominent politician with a long career look like a crook.

How can you look yourself in the mirror and support a man who insults Americans who son gave his life for out country.  How can you support a man who suggests that Muslims aren't real Americans?

Immersing yourself in fantasy smears about HRC doesn't lessen your shamefulness.


tjohn said:
ajc said:
tjohn said: Are you completely nuts? The better question is; " Is everyone completely nuts?" But first you have to watch "CLINTON CASH" on OANN, and then decide.... You can catch it at noon today...

You are a man without shame still supporting Trump after the things he has said and done.  HRC is just a politician and I can make any prominent politician with a long career look like a crook.

How can you look yourself in the mirror and support a man who insults Americans who son gave his life for out country.  How can you support a man who suggests that Muslims aren't real Americans?

Immersing yourself in fantasy smears about HRC doesn't lessen your shamefulness.

Nicely put...  more restrained, perhaps than I would have been, but nonetheless...

...I might have added that anyone who supports a candidate who is so clearly racist, misogynistic and xenophobic must, a priori, also be such. And clearly that exuberant support says, "look at me! I hate women! I hate Blacks! I hate Muslims! I hate anyone different! Even if they're loyal patriots!" 

And ultimately, "I hate America!" 


As we used to say, if the foo sh!ts.


Throw out the propaganda from either side's loyalist camp and focus on the words of people who have jumped ship.  I'm not sure there's anything scarier than the words of the ghostwriter of the "Art of the Deal" who felt compelled to speak up after decades.   Look at all the Republican/conservative stalwarts who have outright repudiated Trump or have given him the most tepid tenuous "support."

And who has jumped ship from the usual Democratic cast of characters?  Anyone?  I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't like her, thinks she's less than totally honest etc. but have any of the usual suspects on the Democrat side said "I'm sorry, she's just not fit to hold office, I'm voting for Trump, or the Libertarian guy, or not voting."? 

Doesn't that tell you all you need to know about this election?



 


Knowing nothing else, watching him mock a disabled man from the podium makes him unelectable for me.  Add the 1000 other reasons and I'm pretty sure I'm voting for Hillary.  He's pure evil.


kthnry said:

Wow, how often do you see such a big gap between the critics' score and the audience score on rottentomatoes?

Who else would spend their money seeing that trash except for the utterly faithful?

They are the ones that would not question if told that Hillary went to the moon to defecate on our national flag the astronauts placed there.


ajc said:
Dear " tjohn", Are you completely nuts pal? Do you actually believe that if 96% of African American voters really understood the truth about the roots, and still active racial activities of the Democratic Party, that they would still be card carrying members?

As a white man it most be most burdensome trying to spread the truth to those ignorant AA voters.


Here's another guy not voting for Hillary:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/american-nazi-chair-a-trump-win-would-be-a-real-opportunity?utm_term=.xhYVymegD#.vw1bEOLxW


Here's the bottom-line for all you bleeding heart liberals; If you haven't seen Hillary's America, and Clinton's Cash, then there's really no point in me having a conversation with you. (It's on again at 5 p.m. today on OAN) tjohn, obviously you're a man without principles, supporting Clinton after all the things she has said and done. She is certainly a prominent politician with a long career, and more importantly is a proven liar and a crook. How do you look yourself in the mirror and support a woman who abandoned Americans under attack, and then lied about it to the families who lost their sons serving our country. And; FWIW, Trump never insulted real Muslims, his position is about Radical Islamic Terrorist, and the undocumented who are entering our country. Mr. T, I might have add that anyone who supports a candidate or political party that is so clearly crooked and corrupt, must be cut from the same cloth. Just say'n, if the shoe fits, wear it....

Trump mocked a disabled person.  What defense is there to that act?


ajc said:
Dear " tjohn", Are you completely nuts pal? Do you actually believe that if 96% of African American voters really understood the truth about the roots, and still active racial activities of the Democratic Party, that they would still be card carrying members?

ajc - Maybe you missed the memo about how the Southern Dems are now all Republicans because they had to get away from the Democrats' progressive stance on racial equality.

Not to say that there aren't plenty of Democrats who still need to evolve on this, but it isn't evolution toward the Republican position that is needed.


jeffl said:

Knowing nothing else, watching him mock a disabled man from the podium makes him unelectable for me.  Add the 1000 other reasons and I'm pretty sure I'm voting for Hillary.  He's pure evil.

To say nothing of the personal attacks hurled upon Hillary as a woman at Trump's hate-fueled rallies inflamed by his misogyny.  It's always the personal, petty attacks against women having nothing whatsoever to do with anything decent or sane, much less any forward vision for America.  As a woman, I receive a visceral reaction to it.  Trump's campaign is a rotten, wretched, living nightmare of a spectacle; a "human rodeo."  The world is aghast at it.  The French President François Hollande was dead on when he said that "Trump's excesses end up making you feel like you want to retch."  zipper 


ajc said:
How do you look yourself in the mirror and support a woman who abandoned Americans under attack, 

Perhaps you missed the part where multiple House Republican witch hunts did not find this to be the case.


Listen, Trump's flap on the disabled guy was no different then when Joe Biden did something similarly when he didn't know the guy was in a wheel chair. You liberals are pathetic, and grabbing a straws because you can't support Hillary on her record of none accomplishment. As for misogyny, that's ridiculous, he loves woman and marriage, It's just certain people, (male or female) piss him off. What's wrong with that? You liberals do it all the time... LOL

tjohn, the facts are the facts. Say whatever you want, make up any excuse you want; but Hillary had the authority and the responsibility to protect and defend them. She didn't!!! End of story...

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