Cancel Culture

"cancel culture" is one of those recently made up terms that can be used for any purpose by anyone and usually just to "cancel" criticism.

For example, Governor Cuomo is now using it against those who want him to resign.

Whatever happened to real words like "Censorship", or "lying"? 


 OTOH, maybe the cartoon is an attempt to "cancel" Pres. Biden


STANV said:

"cancel culture" is one of those recently made up terms that can be used for any purpose by anyone and usually just to "cancel" criticism.

For example, Governor Cuomo is now using it against those who want him to resign.

Whatever happened to real words like "Censorship", or "lying"? 

 it's mainly another cudgel to use on the libs. This thread started with a claim that this is almost exclusively something done by progressives. But bring up anyone truly "canceled" by the right like The Chicks or Kaepernick, and the response is crickets. 


What a total clown Cuomo is by invoking cancel culture. It's freaking embarrassing.


drummerboy said:

What a total clown Cuomo is by invoking cancel culture. It's freaking embarrassing.

 Yep... It's a fairly transparent attempt to hold onto power. But it's what politicians seem to do.


DaveSchmidt said:

Tell that to Plato.

The meme isn’t any good because (a) threats to Meghan’s life are a real security concern, (b) she didn’t b**** about her mother-in-law and (c) Elizabeth won’t find her in a country where the cars are righthand drive.

 Methinks you over think a cartoon. The idea of Her Majesty, 90+, would use a gun with a silencer, to travel to California to take Meghan out, is hilarious, not threatening. Of course, there are nuts everywhere.


mtierney said:

 Methinks you over think a cartoon. The idea of Her Majesty, 90+, would use a gun with a silencer, to travel to California to take Meghan out, is hilarious, not threatening. Of course, there are nuts everywhere.

 What did Meghan say about the queen?  Using a silencer is the funny part?


jamie said:

 What did Meghan say about the queen?  Using a silencer is the funny part?

 Both cartoons came from British publications. 

Will Cancel Culture kill our freedom to laugh, too?


mtierney said:

 Both cartoons came from British publications. 

Will Cancel Culture kill our freedom to laugh, too?

 nope. 

But the "humor" you post isn't funny to people outside the Trumpist cult. Because you all have created a separate reality that isn't connected to truth, your "jokes" aren't funny outside your bubble. Just puzzling to people outside it. 


Let’s take the cartoon posted after the Queen thing. You’ve got the leaders of Iran, China and Russia there. Each of them has something they could destroy the US with. For Iran, it’s a nuclear bomb. For China, it’s the coronavirus. For Russia it’s disinformation and propaganda. But what’s puzzling is the example of disinformation is an actual Republican talking-point, which leads me to believe that the cartoonist believes that Republicans are spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda, and that somehow Biden isn’t able to combat that.

I mean, that’s putting aside the fact that the cancel culture doesn’t exist, and that it’s not the job of the President of the United States to do anything in these cases. The cartoonist appears confused.


ml1 said:

 nope. 

But the "humor" you post isn't funny to people outside the Trumpist cult. Because you all have created a separate reality that isn't connected to truth, your "jokes" aren't funny outside your bubble. Just puzzling to people outside it. 

 News flash: Trump is not in the White House, but resides in the heads of Bidenists. Grasp the facts — however disputed — that Trump lost and your man won. 


mtierney said:

ml1 said:

 nope. 

But the "humor" you post isn't funny to people outside the Trumpist cult. Because you all have created a separate reality that isn't connected to truth, your "jokes" aren't funny outside your bubble. Just puzzling to people outside it. 

 News flash: Trump is not in the White House, but resides in the heads of Bidenists. Grasp the facts — however disputed — that Trump lost and your man won. 

 are we supposed to never mention the most powerful person in the Republican party?


mtierney said:

 News flash: Trump is not in the White House, but resides in the heads of Bidenists. Grasp the facts — however disputed — that Trump lost and your man won. 

 Right. 


Now that "cartoon" is funny.


drummerboy said:

 are we supposed to never mention the most powerful person in the Republican party?

 Mention maybe; fixated, no


mtierney said:

drummerboy said:

 are we supposed to never mention the most powerful person in the Republican party?

 Mention maybe; fixated, no

 I don't see any fixations here. But it seems that any mention of him gets your hackles up.

btw, what about all of those Republicans who want him to run in '24? Are they fixated too? How about all those R's who think he won the election? Why can't they let it go?


mtierney said:

ml1 said:

 nope. 

But the "humor" you post isn't funny to people outside the Trumpist cult. Because you all have created a separate reality that isn't connected to truth, your "jokes" aren't funny outside your bubble. Just puzzling to people outside it. 

 News flash: Trump is not in the White House, but resides in the heads of Bidenists. Grasp the facts — however disputed — that Trump lost and your man won. 

 tell that to the cultists who can't quit him. 


Example of the pot calling the kettle black?


mtierney said:

Example of the pot calling the kettle black?

Donald Trump supporters suddenly bothered by how a politician treats women.


nohero said:

mtierney said:

Example of the pot calling the kettle black?

Donald Trump supporters suddenly bothered by how a politician treats women.

 As pointed out previously, the difference between how Democrats are responding to Cuomo and how Republicans, to this day, worship Trump, is instructive.


In news about more people having challenges understanding hypocrisy and/or reality: 

A Navy Sergeant sent a glowing comment to a judge about a Capitol insurrectionist -- but he told Navy investigators that the guy was a Holocaust denier who would make "joking/not joking" racist remarks...

I pasted the section from the end of the article. The rest of the article is here:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/14/politics/timothy-hale-cusanelli-nazi-sympathizer-capitol-insurrection/index.html

Navy probe finds contractor charged in Capitol insurrection was well-known Nazi sympathizer
..."I was appalled at how he was slandered in the press in regards to him being a 'white supremacist,'" Sgt. John Getz wrote to the judge. "I have never known him to be this way."

Getz said he was "proud to have someone like (Hale-Cusanelli) serve under me." (Since his arrest, Hale-Cusanelli has been barred from the Navy base where he worked with Getz.)

But prosecutors told the judge that this glowing comment "directly contradicts" what Getz told Navy investigators. Getz told the Navy that Hale-Cusanelli was a Holocaust denier who made racist remarks in a "joking but not" way, and that he confronted Hale-Cusanelli about his behavior.

When FBI agents interviewed Getz about the discrepancy, he said he wasn't personally offended by Hale-Cusanelli's conduct and wanted to "speak positively" about him to the judge.

Hale-Cusanelli was in the Army Reserves at the time of the Capitol siege, but has since been discharged, according to court documents. The Pentagon said he was a reservist since 2009.

This Getz guy sounds like a real bozo.


mtierney said:

drummerboy said:

 are we supposed to never mention the most powerful person in the Republican party?

 Mention maybe; fixated, no

 "Fixated" is exactly how I would describe the Right's attitude toward Hillary Clinton. Apparently Anti-Hillary merchandise was selling quite well at CPAC but they couldn't move any Biden themed merchandise.


STANV said:

 "Fixated" is exactly how I would describe the Right's attitude toward Hillary Clinton. Apparently Anti-Hillary merchandise was selling quite well at CPAC but they couldn't move any Biden themed merchandise.

 But.... HER EMAILS!!!!


STANV said:

 "Fixated" is exactly how I would describe the Right's attitude toward Hillary Clinton. Apparently Anti-Hillary merchandise was selling quite well at CPAC but they couldn't move any Biden themed merchandise.

They're finding it harder to demonize Biden the way they did to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

What a surprise.


nohero said:

STANV said:

 "Fixated" is exactly how I would describe the Right's attitude toward Hillary Clinton. Apparently Anti-Hillary merchandise was selling quite well at CPAC but they couldn't move any Biden themed merchandise.

They're finding it harder to demonize Biden the way they did to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

What a surprise.

 I'm both glad that's working, and sad about the implications for representation in our politics.


mtierney said:

Really isn’t hard...

 Did you object to the stimulus during trump’s administration?


mtierney said:

Really isn’t hard...

 yet again, you have no clue


mtierney said:

Really isn’t hard...

These facts aren't too hard either:

 In 2020, there were 530,000 deaths, 29 million COVID-19 cases, and 78 million jobs lost. America’s billionaires have made so much money during that time, they could fund two-thirds of President Biden’s American Rescue Plan (ARP).

The collective net worth of the nation’s 657 billionaires stood at $4.2 trillion as of Wednesday morning, March 10, 2021—up $1.3 trillion, or 44%, since the pandemic recession began about a year ago— based on Forbes data compiled in this report by Americans for Tax Fairness (ATF) and the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS).


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