Property Tax Question

joan_crystal

I still have not received a bill in the mail.  Based on on-line quote, I was able to go to town hall a few days ago and pay my third quarter bill. Does anyone know if/when we will be getting the bill in the mail?


Tom_R

The tax bill available online advises that the grace period for 3rd quarter 2019 taxes is 5 Sep 19.

TomR


sac

Tom_R said:

The tax bill available online advises that the grace period for 3rd quarter 2019 taxes is 5 Sep 19.

TomR

 Thanks!!


sac

joan_crystal said:

I still have not received a bill in the mail.  Based on on-line quote, I was able to go to town hall a few days ago and pay my third quarter bill. Does anyone know if/when we will be getting the bill in the mail?

 Once they have been set, you can always just go to Town Hall to pay and they will look it up for you. But I always wait for the due date. (They may charge interest if you pay late, but they don’t give a discount for paying early.)


krnl

sac said:

Tom_R said:

The tax bill available online advises that the grace period for 3rd quarter 2019 taxes is 5 Sep 19.

TomR

 Thanks!!

 We checked online again and looked at the online actual tax bill in addition to the pay online bill that we usually view. The tax bill includes a paragraph in tiny tiny print explaining the Sep 5 end of grace period.  

I still view this as a major communication fail on the part of the township committee, tax collector and manager!!!!!!




joan_crystal

I view this as a communication fail for those of us (seniors especially but not exclusively) who do not have internet access for whatever reason and have no way of knowing either that the tax rate has been set or that there is a September 5th deadline for making the payment.  There is now just under 4 weeks to get the payment in.  That window gets smaller with every day the town delays in sending out a hard copy bill.


BG9

They found out recently what the tax burden is.

It takes awhile to print the statements and envelope them. Then there is the cost of postage.

Should they have spent about $30,000 just to do a separate mailing to  inform taxpayers their taxes are not due until Sept and to await the next mailing when the actual statements are printed and ready to be mailed? Would they have the software to address all those "we're working on it" letters?

Postage, stationery and labor has a cost.

Any better communication ideas? TV adverts, radio spots, posters? Nothing is free.


lord_pabulum

Here's another fail:


BG9

lord_pabulum said:

Here's another fail:

Big fail considering it hasn't bothered anyone for almost two years.  raspberry

Good thing we have relentless detectives like you around.

You're pretty opinionated and sure of yourself. Maybe you should run for office or join the township administration as supreme administrator. I'm sure you'll whip everything hunky-dory.  oh oh

ps - but they should have kept their site up to date. That was sloppy.


lord_pabulum

I have brought this kind of thing up before.  You're pretty opinionated and sure of yourself too apparently.


jamie

From the town:

Due to the delay in the State budgetary process, the Final 2019 tax bills were mailed Wednesday August 7, 2019. Due to the late mailing, the grace period for the August tax bill is extended until September 5, 2019.

This will be the final deadline for paying the 3rd quarter taxes. There will be no additional grace period beyond September 5, 2019.

Any unpaid 3rd quarter balance will accrue interest from August 1, 2019.

4th quarter 2019 taxes are due on November 1, 2019 with a grace period through November 12, 2019.


yahooyahoo

I love how any unpaid balance will accrue interest from August 1st.  A big f$ck you from the Town.


sac

yahooyahoo said:

I love how any unpaid balance will accrue interest from August 1st.  A big f$ck you from the Town.

 I think that's pretty normal actually.  


BG9

sac said:

yahooyahoo said:

I love how any unpaid balance will accrue interest from August 1st.  A big f$ck you from the Town.

 I think that's pretty normal actually.  

Like that in every town. State requirement.

The standard interest free grace period when nothing goes wrong, lie a late budget, is 10 days, moved up if its not a business day. But paying after the grace causes interest to always be calculated back to day 1. This November, the 10th of November grace is moved to Nov 12. 

Bank escrow payments usually come in a few days after the first.

Besides, why the FU complaint? Consider there's an interest free ride to Sept 5.


EricBurbank

sac said:

yahooyahoo said:

I love how any unpaid balance will accrue interest from August 1st.  A big f$ck you from the Town.

 I think that's pretty normal actually.  

 His issue is -  for this month you will be getting a 35 day grace period instead of the normal ten days. Yahoo Yahoo  oh oh  But wait a second - if you have a remaining balance after September 05....you're screwed.  Now you have to pay interest on 35 days instead of the normal 10 days.   Am I correct?

I do not agree with your reasoning but I get it.  But 35 days is 35 days. If he doesn't have the money when given a 35 day window,  what would make you think he was going to have the money for the 35 days that didn't get a grace period? 


joan_crystal

I just received notification from the post office that the tax bill should be in today's mail.  


sac

joan_crystal said:

I just received notification from the post office that the tax bill should be in today's mail.  

 So two separate mail pieces?  That doesn't seem to be very cost-efficient.  (I didn't get anything.)


joan_crystal

sac said:

 So two separate mail pieces?  That doesn't seem to be very cost-efficient.  (I didn't get anything.)

Only one piece of snail mail.  Back in December when I was having extended problems with my mail delivery, I signed up for an email notification program that tells you in the morning what you should be getting in the mail later that day.  As Letters advised me at the time, this system is not always accurate but it does help me know if a piece of mail I am expecting is supposed to arrive on a given day so I can look for it if it doesn't appear through my mail slot.  Here is a link to the program FAQs https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Informed-Delivery-The-Basics


sprout

Mine arrived in my mailbox today. I'm afraid to open it.


EricBurbank

sprout said:

Mine arrived in my mailbox today. I'm afraid to open it.

 You too?  


Robert_Casotto

like a schmuck, I paid already.   I “could of” waited a few weeks, evidently.


sac

Robert_Casotto said:

like a schmuck, I paid already.   I “could of” waited a few weeks, evidently.

 I’m waiting until the first week of September!


yahooyahoo

sac said:

yahooyahoo said:

I love how any unpaid balance will accrue interest from August 1st.  A big f$ck you from the Town.

 I think that's pretty normal actually.  

It was a reference to the fact that the bills were not available until after August 1st but somehow interest is accruing starting August 1st.  The interest should not start accruing until bills were received by taxpayers.  For the record, I can and will pay my tax bill on time.  


sac

yahooyahoo said:

sac said:

yahooyahoo said:

I love how any unpaid balance will accrue interest from August 1st.  A big f$ck you from the Town.

 I think that's pretty normal actually.  

It was a reference to the fact that the bills were not available until after August 1st but somehow interest is accruing starting August 1st.  The interest should not start accruing until bills were received by taxpayers.  For the record, I can and will pay my tax bill on time.  

 If they don’t do that, the town potentially loses more $$ and then ALL the taxpayers pay to make up the difference rather than just the late payers.  All taxpayers should know that the normal date is August 1, and were able to inquire about what was happening this year. So there is no justification, to my way of thinking, for changing the ‘accrue from’ date to go easier on those who can’t manage to pay by the end of the extended grace period.



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