Mea Culpa
ska said:
Right now I definitely want to see collective action. I want the March for our Lives to be huge. I want them to work with the Times Up movement and yes guys, Black Live Matter to get change based candidates selected in the primaries and general and create the greatest upheaval in Congress and states ever.
That's great to hear. I have a cousin who voted for Trump. I can't unfriend him from facebook since he's my cousin. He's a tax accountant, and Trump's tax policy helped him see the light. He said he has buyer's remorse. There is a good amount of buyer's remorse going on.
I never liked Trump and did not vote for him. I voted Clinton. But the toxins around him have actually shocked me. We need a major purge first. Then we can hopefully move on.
Zoinks, thanks for sharing your metamorphosis. It is a very moving and hopeful story. I remember when I first joined MOL I was negatively affected by your tough guy attitude, which was sometimes hurtful. Others said that you weren't at all like that in person. While I was skeptical, it turns out that what they saw really was there and blossomed into the transformed You. It is a lesson in keeping hopeful and supportive about the possibility of growth in us all.
Tom_Reingold said:
ska said:
Right now I definitely want to see collective action. I want the March for our Lives to be huge. I want them to work with the Times Up movement and yes guys, Black Live Matter to get change based candidates selected in the primaries and general and create the greatest upheaval in Congress and states ever.
That's great to hear. I have a cousin who voted for Trump. I can't unfriend him from facebook since he's my cousin. He's a tax accountant, and Trump's tax policy helped him see the light. He said he has buyer's remorse. There is a good amount of buyer's remorse going on.
I think the remorseful ones are the highly educated Republicans. It's literally a civil war between enlightenment vs. unenlightenment.
shoshannah said:
I think the remorseful ones are the highly educated Republicans. It's literally a civil war between enlightenment vs. unenlightenment.
It doesn't seem civil at all to me. 
Especially when civility between the enlightened and unenlightened makes both indistinguishable
yeah, no.
Not close to being true.
lord_pabulum said:
Especially when civility between the enlightened and unenlightened makes both indistinguishable
I love this discussion and thank you Burner! Your post was eloquent and inspired hope in me.
ml1 said:
I believe that Facebook has put the lie to the notion that using real names results in more civil discussions. The discussions on MOL are way more civil than the SOMA Lounge is on FB, IMHO.
I totally agree with this. SOMA Lounge and various other SOMA Facebook groups can be really nasty. I find the discourse here on MOL to be far more civil and educated.
there's one particular guy on FB who feels the need to respond to me all the time, and I want to ask "are you an ******* all the time or just on Facebook?" But I just try to ignore him.
I suspect FB's algorithm seeks out opposing viewpoints and finds ways to clash users together to create more heat than light, which is why ********* may always be commenting on your posts.
We went through a group family DBT series before my daughter changed schools. It was primarily designed to teach the kids skills to redirect and it was a great series.
But in learning the techniques I found it personally a very powerful way to pause in a moment and change my mindset and reactions.
Small example but I was one to react to road rage like honking at me for going to slow by getting aggressive myself. Now I am more likely to just let it go, see the issue is with the other person but that there is no need to let my anger rise and make it worse.
Make that the habit and the world starts to look very different.
the online version of that would be:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Or alternatively: "Whaddya gonna do?"
I'm so glad you found the keys for yourself to change the direction of your life! Congratulations and welcome to the world of self-compassion and the sharing of the light it provides. You may find it interesting to explore the concept of Internal Family Systems. It meshes well with the skills you learned in DBT and takes them to another level. I've been amazed at the growth I've both witnessed and been a part of using these pathways.
shoshannah said:
Tom_Reingold said:
ska said:
Right now I definitely want to see collective action. I want the March for our Lives to be huge. I want them to work with the Times Up movement and yes guys, Black Live Matter to get change based candidates selected in the primaries and general and create the greatest upheaval in Congress and states ever.
That's great to hear. I have a cousin who voted for Trump. I can't unfriend him from facebook since he's my cousin. He's a tax accountant, and Trump's tax policy helped him see the light. He said he has buyer's remorse. There is a good amount of buyer's remorse going on.
I think the remorseful ones are the highly educated Republicans. It's literally a civil war between enlightenment vs. unenlightenment.
There is no civil war within the Republican Party. It is barely a spat. The educated have cowered and surrendered every single time.
The street I live on is two blocks long. This academic year we have has one teen suicide and one attempted or contemplated suicide that resulted in hospitalization on the street. Both 9th graders. Both kids my daughter (also 9th grade) went to school with for at least some period of time. Something is very wrong.
I know after Parkland some tried to shift the discussion to mental health to divert it from guns but schools do need to get much more serious, starting from Pre K, about mental health development, screening and making developing of coping and executive functioning skills as much a part of the curriculum as reading, writing and math. Kids have so many pressures these days, academically, socially, developing and accepting their identities. They need help. I think every kid needs regular access to services and classes to help with all this.
ml1 said:
the online version of that would be:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Or alternatively: "Whaddya gonna do?"
My father's version of that was "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things."
ridski said:
My father's version of that was "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things."
Now I know where you get it from. 
I'm guessing that you started this thread, which I was happy to see. So In keeping with all of the love, I'm resurrecting it in your honor.
https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/forums/discussion/nj-department-of-health-survey-of-shelters
This is me. I can't enjoy cable news anymore because it's something newly minted bad daily. We're smart people, the lot of us, but jeezus, I can't keep up! And Sam Nunberg BLEW MY MIND yesterday. My pupils and cochlea will never be the same. But in any event, mad respect to you @zoinks.
ska said:
I never liked Trump and did not vote for him. I voted Clinton. But the toxins around him have actually shocked me. We need a major purge first. Then we can hopefully move on.
drummerboy said:
yeah, no.
Not close to being true.
lord_pabulum said:
Especially when civility between the enlightened and unenlightened makes both indistinguishable
It is true. I have no idea which group you're in.
Freedom to publish anonymously is protected under the First Amendment. See McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n, 514 U.S. 334 (1995) https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/514/334/case.html
rcarter31 said:
Wow! Good to hear.
Have never understood why anyone wouldn't just use their name on a board...
Best Regards,
Ron Carter
RealityForAll said:
Freedom to publish anonymously is protected under the First Amendment. See McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n, 514 U.S. 334 (1995) https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/514/334/case.html
That's not even in question. Of course it's a person's right. The question was why someone wants to.
funny, I know which one you're in.
lord_pabulum said:
drummerboy said:
yeah, no.
Not close to being true.
lord_pabulum said:
Especially when civility between the enlightened and unenlightened makes both indistinguishable
It is true. I have no idea which group you're in.
lord_pabulum said:
Especially when civility between the enlightened and unenlightened makes both indistinguishable
I call bs on you. Please leave this thread. Thanks.
Wendy Lauter
(real poster SHEESH)
When the position of two or more sides are discussed until they become indistinguishable that is called working to a compromise and concensus . Which is the way a society should work. People will naturally have differing options. My way or the highway can never be consistant with continued democracy.
That is exactly the skill we have lost and why those totally unwilling to budge or bend from an extreme position need to be removed.
wendy said:
lord_pabulum said:
Especially when civility between the enlightened and unenlightened makes both indistinguishable
I call bs on you. Please leave this thread. Thanks.
Wendy Lauter
(real poster SHEESH)
An example of a truly civil and enlightened post
lord_pabulum said:
Especially when civility between the enlightened and unenlightened makes both indistinguishable
I have to admit I'm so unenlightened I don't even know what this means.
I actually think this post kind of proves LPs point.
drummerboy said:
funny, I know which one you're in.
lord_pabulum said:
drummerboy said:
yeah, no.
Not close to being true.
lord_pabulum said:
Especially when civility between the enlightened and unenlightened makes both indistinguishable
It is true. I have no idea which group you're in.
Right now I definitely want to see collective action. I want the March for our Lives to be huge. I want them to work with the Times Up movement and yes guys, Black Live Matter to get change based candidates selected in the primaries and general and create the greatest upheaval in Congress and states ever.