Is anybody else scared about hydrofracking???

Hahaha

Aug 21, 2014 at 6:36pm Edited

@Tom, I understand that but you can't just complain without talking about solutions. Should we continue to pursue the same old energy policies that each carry their own environmental trade offs?

Like I said, renewable, cleaner energy combined with conservation should be our focus. But it's not.

dave

Aug 21, 2014 at 6:40pm

Germany has it's priorities in order
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/08/08/fracking-finds-unlikely-new-opponent-262572.html

musicmz

Sep 9, 2014 at 1:14pm

Tom_Reingold

Sep 10, 2014 at 4:11am

Hahaha said:
@Tom, I understand that but you can't just complain without talking about solutions. Should we continue to pursue the same old energy policies that each carry their own environmental trade offs?

Like I said, renewable, cleaner energy combined with conservation should be our focus. But it's not.

The energy companies are rushing this through so that the full costs, internal and external, are not tallied. This moves the cost of fracking on society rather than the energy companies. It also defers paying for them.

We don't know the long term effects of fracking, but we already know it's more than anyone expected.

The energy companies have written legislation for legislators to pass. This is a prime example of too much money exerting influence on government and therefore on society. A federal law allows energy companies to sue localities for lost potential income for merely not allowing an energy company to set up shop. In other words, if your town says no to fracking, an energy company can claim that they would have made, say, five billion dollars if your town had let them build a drill. This makes it cheaper for a town to allow it than to stop it, even if it poisons your water and ground, even if it causes earthquakes, even if your property is rendered worthless.

These wrongs are so egregious that I feel we do not have to think of a better way. They are wrong enough to say that they are just plain wrong and intolerable. We have to stop it first and think of a better way second.

soda

Oct 12, 2014 at 8:30am

Un-freaking-believeable. I mean it: you will not believe this...

-s.

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/08/susan_g_komen_teams_up_with_fracking_company_introduces_pink_drill_bits_for_the_cure/

musicmz

Oct 13, 2014 at 5:29am

Yeah, my daughter posted it on Facebook; There is a site: Think Before You Pink. http://thinkbeforeyoupink.org/

mjh

Oct 13, 2014 at 6:32am

soda said:
Un-freaking-believeable. I mean it: you will not believe this...

-s.

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/08/susan_g_komen_teams_up_with_fracking_company_introduces_pink_drill_bits_for_the_cure/

and it's not The Onion.

norman

Oct 28, 2014 at 3:35pm

http://www.desmogblog.com/gas-fracking-industry-using-military-psychological-warfare-tactics-and-personnel-u-s-communities

soda

Nov 7, 2014 at 9:54am

You don't believe NJ will be affected by the O&G's Fracking strategies?

Read this: http://www.dailyrecord.com/story/news/local/2014/11/06/pilgrim-pipeline-accused-harassing-morris-residents/18615349/

-s.

soda

Dec 9, 2014 at 5:46pm

From the Sierra Club...

http://youtu.be/FuQNqm6dk2g

-s.

soda

Jan 22, 2015 at 5:14am

Well, I guess I won't be retiring to North Dakota...

-s.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/01/22/3614226/north-dakota-brine-spill/

soda

Jan 22, 2015 at 5:15am

Or Montana?

-s.

http://www.ibtimes.com/yellowstone-river-oil-spill-authorities-struggle-clean-carcinogen-detected-water-1790970

soda

Jan 22, 2015 at 5:17am

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/03/20/3254081/pipelines-you-havent-heard-of/

tjohn

Jan 22, 2015 at 5:23am

Nice Soda.

Are you making sure that you don't depend on fossil fuels in any way?

soda

Jan 22, 2015 at 5:33am

Your point is well-taken, tjohn.

-s.

soda

Feb 3, 2015 at 5:58pm

Don't Frack With Maryland...

-s.

http://www.wearecovepoint.org/teacher-scales-crane-to-stop-construction-of-dangerous-fracked-gas-terminal/

soda

May 23, 2015 at 5:31am

Miss you already, Dave...

-s.

https://youtu.be/XGEc8KBKO8I

soda

Jun 30, 2015 at 6:45am

YES!

http://www.desmogblog.com/2015/06/29/new-york-state-ban-fracking-made-official

-s.

tjohn

Jun 30, 2015 at 6:57am

I assume that those opposed to fracking are living in the manner of the Old-Order Amish.

ParticleMan

Jun 30, 2015 at 9:17am

I'm opposed to fishing using dynamite. That doesn't mean I have to be a vegan.

mjh

Jun 30, 2015 at 9:34am

tjohn said:
I assume that those opposed to fracking are living in the manner of the Old-Order Amish.

C'mon. This is a straw man argument if ever there was one. It's beneath you.

tjohn

Jun 30, 2015 at 9:39am

The New York decision is meaningless. A gas business that was not even developed won't be developed. It isn't like we voluntarily voted to cut off certain existing supplies with a significant market impact. Kind of reminds me of New Zealand's courageous decision to ban U.S. warships with nuclear weapons on board. Pretty brave for a country on the terminal node of nowhere.