I'm hearing rumors/speculation that Trump may withdraw....
imonlysleeping said:
Can anyone point to any actual informed speculation that Trump might be considering a withdrawal? I'm only seeing reports that the RNC is plotting a contingency plan if that should happen, which is not the same thing at all.
wishful thinking by many.
This doesn't portend dropout talk, but Trump said this at a rally:
"If we don't win on Nov. 8, I will consider this a tremendous waste of time, energy and money."
Nice to know his heart is in the right place.
jeffhandy said:
If Trump does drop out, he will probably go with a scorched earth mindset telling his supporters to not vote because the system screwed him.
That would be the ideal outcome.
My concern if Trump loses is what kind of violence we will see and he will promote. He is not one to lose gracefully.
imonlysleeping said:
Can anyone point to any actual informed speculation that Trump might be considering a withdrawal? I'm only seeing reports that the RNC is plotting a contingency plan if that should happen, which is not the same thing at all.
No, but FB and other channels were blowing up today with speculation. It may just be a viral sensation based on the reported chaos (I find I'm using that word more and more these days) in his campaign and in the GOP.
Trump is still managing to keep the spotlight focused on him. That's the only thing that he's concerned with , and it's worked so far.
I think that the speculation comes from Trumps comments. He seems to be giving himself an out by saying that the system is rigged against him. In his mind I'm guessing that the "rigged" system gives him an honorable exit by taking the high road and not participating in the corruption. Yes that is fantasy thinking but we are talking DJT.
It doesn't work if the spotlight is shining on a whole mess of crazy.
cramer said:
Trump is still managing to keep the spotlight focused on him. That's the only thing that he's concerned with , and it's worked so far.
conandrob240 said:
It doesn't work if the spotlight is shining on a whole mess of crazy.
cramer said:
Trump is still managing to keep the spotlight focused on him. That's the only thing that he's concerned with , and it's worked so far.
I'm not doing high fives yet.
eta - But I will keep my eyes on the polls probably more than jeffl.
Hmm, it would be interesting if he secretly released a false bad campaign story that trumps the true bad story to overshadow it. Old bad press is diminished and he comes back on top showing how corrupt the press is.
The fact that the GOP might be in complete disarray and trying to recruit a new presidential candidate in August has some Democrats nervous says only one thing to me -- Democrats nominated a weak candidate. The Republican nominee pulling out after the convention should make the election a slam dunk for the Democrat.
Over the next few years, IMHO the Democratic rank and file has to take the party back from the DNC bigwigs. The party elite cleared the field for one candidate because they didn't want contested primaries. Well guess what -- a contested primary in 2008 got the party its strongest candidate in decades. Handing the nomination to a chosen candidate hasn't worked out so well.
I believe HRC is going to win this election, but the fact that some folks here are nervous for her if Trump drops out speaks volumes.
Volumes.
Hillary is objectively a weak candidate. The more debatable question is whether Bernie would have been meaningfully better.
Absolutely.
Given what we now know, isn't it pretty likely that the DNC put the word out that they didn't want a contested primary. Only a few quixotic characters challenged Clinton. If Warren had run, by this time the Obamas would be inviting her over to the White House to measure for the new drapes in the Oval Office.
imonlysleeping said:
Hillary is objectively a weak candidate. The more debatable question is whether Bernie would have been meaningfully better.
jamie said:
Hmm, it would be interesting if he secretly released a false bad campaign story that trumps the true bad story to overshadow it. Old bad press is diminished and he comes back on top showing how corrupt the press is.
It didn't gain any political traction, but there have been rumors through the whole campaign about how the really spicy Melania photos were out there somewhere, but no one was ever able to locate them.
Then, in the midst of his campaign's worst crisis, the photos from a defunct 20-year-old French magazine show up in the newspaper that has been friendliest to Trump over several decades.
Somehow I think Melania's racy nudes from when she was 20 years old aren't going to be much a factor in this sh&% show.
There is a 0% chance that he will withdraw because he is not capable of accepting the fact that he is losing badly. So many wonderful amazing people come out and cheer for him! Everybody loves him! Anyone who doesn't is a loser and their vote shouldn't count anyway.
There is no space in his brain for "lots of people would rather that Hillary be President than me".
conandrob240 said:
Somehow I think Melania's racy nudes from when she was 20 years old aren't going to be much a factor in this sh&% show.
It didn't even cause a blip given everything else going on with Trump, but I do think his camp released them in order to throw off the narrative.
Stoughton said:
conandrob240 said:
Somehow I think Melania's racy nudes from when she was 20 years old aren't going to be much a factor in this sh&% show.
It didn't even cause a blip given everything else going on with Trump, but I do think his camp released them in order to throw off the narrative.
I agree. A Trump advisor said "There's nothing to be embarrassed about. She's a beautiful woman."
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/31/media/donald-trump-melania-new-york-post/
cramer said:
Stoughton said:
conandrob240 said:
Somehow I think Melania's racy nudes from when she was 20 years old aren't going to be much a factor in this sh&% show.
It didn't even cause a blip given everything else going on with Trump, but I do think his camp released them in order to throw off the narrative.
I agree. A Trump advisor said "There's nothing to be embarrassed about. She's a beautiful woman."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nude-melania-photos-trump-adviser-916006
As opposed To Michelle's bare arms which were a shanda
I want Trump to stay in and lose fair and square. The last thing I want is for him to be paid some sum of money to leave. I can see him turning this into another one of his money making schemes and laughing all the way to the bank.
There is a drop dead date to get on the ballot in each state. It looks like most of these deadlines are in August or September and some have already passed.
If Trump drops out in September or October it will be too late for the Republican Party to get a viable candidate on enough ballots.
Paul Ryan's betting odds of winning the presidency went from 200:1 to 66:1. If it were legal to bet on the election in the US, I'd take that bet. Then at least if Ryan won, I'd be consoled with cash. I think if he was the nominee, he'd win
don't underestimate the hate for Hillary.
I hope Trump loses fair & square too. I look forward to him being defeated and that blow to his ego (although I am sure it'll become everyone else's fault or all of a sudden he'll claim he didn't want it anyway)
conandrob240 said:
I hope Trump loses fair & square too. I look forward to him being defeated and that blow to his ego (although I am sure it'll become everyone else's fault or all of a sudden he'll claim he didn't want it anyway)
He'll never learn. People with that kind of personality disorder do not change.
My 85 yr old mom lives in Pt. St. Lucie and recently lost her only Democratic friend. While having dinner last week with another friend, a staunch Republican, her friend announced that she is no longer entertaining voting for Trump and will vote for Hillary. She said he is just too crazy.
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Can anyone point to any actual informed speculation that Trump might be considering a withdrawal? I'm only seeing reports that the RNC is plotting a contingency plan if that should happen, which is not the same thing at all.