Home invasion

This poor woman will live in fear for the rest of her life and the Daughter will be in therapy trying to understand why this happened. Who cares if he was on drugs, if it was random or isolated or if the guy had wheaties for breakfast. I just hope they catch this POS and throw him in a hole somewhere and that the family will somehow be able to make it through.

I hope the police dept. will check the surveillance cameras on Springfield Ave. near the bus loop. I am sure there are some by the car dealership, can't think of the name.

Certainly the cops would care about motive - that sort of inquiry could help find him

orzabelle said:

Certainly the cops would care about motive - that sort of inquiry could help find him

Absolutely, but should anyone else be. My prayers go out to the family. I'll leave the speculation up to the police.

At 3 yrs old, there is a chance the daughter may not remember. Let's hope for that.

Even if she doesn't consciously remember, the trauma will stay with her.

From a statistical perspective, the probability of this being a random crime is small.
From an emotional perspective, this breaks my heart.

? To the first part - on what basis?

This is sickening. It was a story on our SoFL news. It's odd that the child doesn't react at all.

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2013/06/video_millburn_home_invasion_brutality_stuns_neighbor_drives_manhunt_for_suspect.html

I was struck by the same thing...absolutely motionless.

conandrob240 said:

By " knew" the attacker, I think people mean it wasn't random. Like the attacker knew of the family and targeted them for a reason ( for example, husband bought drugs, had. Gambling debt, etc). I don't they literally mean " knew" as in personally knew who he was.

I think it was drug related because of the description of circumstances. Not because I am trying to rationalize anything. Violent rage like that against a stranger is a symptom of certain types of highs.

And the location of the crime would give me no pause at all unless this became more common in a particular area. This could happen at any time, anywhere. It is a pattern of crime, escalating crime, lack of police response, crime levels disproportionate to neighboring towns, and so on that would give me any kind of pause about a particular location.

Suggesting the guy showed up for a reason (drug gambling debt etc) compounds the trauma the family has already suffered. I can't imagine she'd feel good laying in a hospital hearing in essence that maybe her husband or her family's behavior is to blame.

That's not pinning it to you- I think you're just trying to make a distinction. But frankly, to those who are suggesting, based on absolutely no knowledge, that this was brought about by something the family may have been involved in, should be ashamed. Can you imagine hearing that sort of ***** from people living in your area after going through this? Unreal.

I agree with @METALART. It's really not appropriate to follow paths of speculation on this crime here, ESPECIALLY any speculation about whether or not this fellow citizen and neighbor knew her attacker.

This woman has been through enough. Just imagine her or her kids reading through this thread some day.

us2inFL said:

This is sickening. It was a story on our SoFL news. It's odd that the child doesn't react at all.

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2013/06/video_millburn_home_invasion_brutality_stuns_neighbor_drives_manhunt_for_suspect.html

I can easily imagine a young child frozen in terror and not moving an inch during such a horrific ordeal as described above. Some kids will run in terror, some will freeze and not be able to move, some will cry hysterically, some might try to hit the attacker. Different children react in different ways.

Jackson, yes I can imagine hearing that and no it wouldn't bother me at all. I would actually want to think that perhaps this was a "hit" gone bad and the perp went to the wrong address. Much better than the idea that it's random. If it had happened to me, I would absolutely be running every possible scenario through my mind hoping it wasn't random.

kmt: little chance that the kids will be reading this thread, you know, ever.

Why not? You're reading it and you have no personal interest. Maybe the kids will stumble on MOL in 10 years or so.

I was NOT suggesting that in any way. I was explaining what I think people meant by saying the guy " knew" her. I was using examples to explain what I think people mean when they say this.

Personally, I feel random crime committed by someone flying high on drugs. No relationship to the family.

eliz said:

I'm not sure why people are assuming the victim knew the attacker and frankly, I think it's inappropriate.

I'm with eliz. A horrible thing has happened to a family in our community. All this baseless speculation about the possible hows and whys is, well, creepy.

eliz said:

I'm not sure why people are assuming the victim knew the attacker and frankly, I think it's inappropriate. The family released the video to the police so the public could help identify the attacker.

No one wants to think these things can be random but they are. When our neighbor was murdered the police assured us it wasn't random and people seemed comforted by that but it turned out it was completely random (see Bettina's comments).

I agree.

Jackson_Fusion said:

conandrob240 said:

By " knew" the attacker, I think people mean it wasn't random. Like the attacker knew of the family and targeted them for a reason ( for example, husband bought drugs, had. Gambling debt, etc). I don't they literally mean " knew" as in personally knew who he was.

I think it was drug related because of the description of circumstances. Not because I am trying to rationalize anything. Violent rage like that against a stranger is a symptom of certain types of highs.

And the location of the crime would give me no pause at all unless this became more common in a particular area. This could happen at any time, anywhere. It is a pattern of crime, escalating crime, lack of police response, crime levels disproportionate to neighboring towns, and so on that would give me any kind of pause about a particular location.

Suggesting the guy showed up for a reason (drug gambling debt etc) compounds the trauma the family has already suffered. I can't imagine she'd feel good laying in a hospital hearing in essence that maybe her husband or her family's behavior is to blame.

That's not pinning it to you- I think you're just trying to make a distinction. But frankly, to those who are suggesting, based on absolutely no knowledge, that this was brought about by something the family may have been involved in, should be ashamed. Can you imagine hearing that sort of ***** from people living in your area after going through this? Unreal.

Agree again. Let's not attack the victim or her family without any data.

Going down Millburn Ave. today, I turned where I always do to take my usual short cut ,to the Street that I live on, saw a ton of news media trucks and news crews, didn't realize that was Cypress St. Until today. With all the craziness going on I am hoping the family is not still in their house right now, anyway. Praying they are safe, and that they will recover from this tragedy.

rudbekia said:

Jackson, yes I can imagine hearing that and no it wouldn't bother me at all. I would actually want to think that perhaps this was a "hit" gone bad and the perp went to the wrong address. Much better than the idea that it's random. If it had happened to me, I would absolutely be running every possible scenario through my mind hoping it wasn't random.

kmt: little chance that the kids will be reading this thread, you know, ever.

That's the point. People wish cast that it wasn't random, and speculate the family did something to bring that guy to their house. It's understandable but completely unfair.

Woot said:

Agree again. Let's not attack the victim or her family without any data.

+1

Do nanny cams run all the time? Do most people with nanny cams use them when they are home? I'm surprised they got such good footage of the attack.

I don't have a babysitter, but I'm getting a nanny cam!

I think some have motion detection so they don't always have to run.

debby said:

I think he was amped on drugs - the speed and ferocity of the attack, and the pacing back and forth.

I thought the same. I saw a late afternoon news report on one of the networks (Eyewitness News.) They reported that the victim stopped screaming when she realized that the perp was reacting to it violently; she did not want her child to witness it. I think the perp freaked about someone hearing her. The reporter interviewed a neighbor who said that no one in the neighborhood ever locked their doors. That ship has sailed; the name of the street has been all over the news. We are left trying to make sense of the senseless. They will get him.

DottyParker said:

The reporter interviewed a neighbor who said that no one in the neighborhood ever locked their doors. That ship has sailed; the name of the street has been all over the news.

Not sure what this means.

And not sure that any of us, screaming inside our locked suburban houses on a hot day when air conditioners were being used, could count on being heard.

As for reporters, and I've been one myself, a Telemundo reporter came to my door at 8:30 tonight to tell me that I should be afraid because the man was still at large. Does that sort of "reporting" help anyone?

This story was on CNN just now.

It's been on CNN like a Vine, all day.

CNN will run any story that has lurid video.

Yes, while,horrifying and tragic, it is the video that is the driving " attraction" for the media with this story.