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Jeb Bush comments have blogs in uproar
By: Tim Mak
June 12, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
Conservatives in the blogosphere lashed out at Jeb Bush for saying that Ronald Reagan and his father, George H.W. Bush, would not have fit well in the modern Republican Party, ripping the former Florida governor as a “RINO” and dismissing his “steaming pile of nonsense.”
The internet uproar was touched off by Bush’s remarks at a Bloomberg View event on Monday when he said, “Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad — they would have a hard time if you define the Republican Party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow for finding some common ground.”
Conservatives shredded Bush’s analysis by pointing to the Republican Party’s current presidential nominee.
“Bush is hardly the first — or the last — Republican to voice sentiments like these. But it seems strange to keep beating this drum when Republicans just nominated Mitt Romney, who was not exactly considered the conservative stalwart among the 2012 GOP candidates this cycle,” notes Katrina Trinko at the National Review’s “The Corner.”
“[T]he GOP is so extreme our last two nominees have been John McCain and Mitt Romney … “I am so sick and tired of this garbage,” wrote a blogger at the conservative Ace of Spades HQ, who called Bush’s comments a “steaming pile of nonsense.”
“There obviously is room for Ronald Reagan and the Bushes in today’s GOP. Romney is obviously to the left, at least if you go by past policy, of Reagan and Bush 43,” wrote Bryan Preston at Pajamas Media.
And others pointed to the fact that Reagan often sharply criticized his Democratic opponents.
“Jeb Bush’s analysis is incomplete at best if he sees the GOP as more sharply partisan now than it was under Reagan,” continued Preston. “Reagan spared nothing when criticizing Democrat and socialist policies. He went over the heads of the Democrats and the media to articulate his goals, and used the presidency effectively to achieve them.”
Among those who came to Bush’s defense, a common theme from the right was that the former governor also laid some of the blame for the partisan divide at the feet of President Barack Obama.
“His [Obama’s] first year could have been a year of enormous accomplishment had he focused on things where there was more common ground,” Bush said Monday, according to Buzzfeed, accusing the president of making a “purely political calculation” to run a partisan administration.
“I have no problem with him claiming that the current political climate is excessively partisan, particularly since he places much of the blame for this on President Obama,” reacts Paul Mirengoff at the Powerline blog.
Meanwhile, the progressive blogosphere debated whether Bush’s comments suggest that a moderate Republicanism would emerge should Romney lose in November.
“Bush is clearly engaged in an effort to position himself as the next leader of the Republican Party,” wrote New York Magazine’s Jonathan Chait. “To understand what Bush is saying, you need to anticipate how the party might diagnose the causes of a loss in 2012, and then you can see how he is setting himself as the cure. Bush has been publicly urging Republicans to moderate their tone toward Latinos and to embrace immigration reform. Here is the one issue where Republicans, should they lose, will almost surely conclude that they need to moderate their party stance.”
“Sorry — the party isn’t going to moderate by 2016 if Romney loses,” responded a blogger at the Booman Tribune. “It isn’t going to moderate in policy and it isn’t going to moderate in tone. I don’t care how pugnacious Romney is now. I don’t care how many hippies he punches. I don’t care how wingnutty his running mate is. If he loses, the post mortem from the most influential right-wingers is going to be: we nominated a RINO, the same way we did in 2008, and we lost to the Kenyan socialist. The way to win is to nominate a true conservative.”
Liberals also took the opportunity to tout’s Bush’s rebuke of “far-right wing Republicans.”
“[H]e became the latest in a lengthy parade of former GOP officeholders to express significant discomfort with the current purge by far-right wing Republicans of any moderates or even bipartisan-minded conservatives in their party,” wrote Josh Israel at ThinkProgress.
“Jeb Bush is right. Even Ronald Reagan couldn’t have made it through today’s GOP nominating process. That’s why Mitt Romney had to tack so hard to the right to become the Republican nominee,” wrote Brendan Daly, a former communications director for Nancy Pelosi, at POLITICO’s Arena.
“Yes he is right. In fact, since Richard Nixon Democrats and Republicans have worked together on a number of things, from EPA to immigration reform, which extremist Republicans are trying to throw out,” agreed Democratic strategist Celinda Lake in the Arena.
But the left also couldn’t resist pointing out that Bush was no moderate in their eyes.
politico
“Don’t get the idea that Bush’s criticism of the Republican Party suggest he is a moderate. Bush also supported the extremist Ryan budget,” remarks Ron Chusid at Liberal Values.
And, as does often occur, the left focused their ire on Bush’s criticism of Democrats – in this case, President Barack Obama, who Bush claimed had made a “purely political decision” to be partisan.
“Sorry, Jeb. If you believe Barack Obama is to blame for the Republican Party’s lurch to the right, then you’re not exposing the problem … you are the problem,” wrote Jed Lewison at the Daily Kos
“[A]fter this on-point criticism of the obstructionist loons who’ve taken over the Republican Party, Jeb decided he had to throw a bone to them and blame the whole thing on guess who [Obama],” wrote Charles Johnson at the progressive blog Little Green Footballs.
© 2012 POLITICO LLC
Jeb Bush comments have blogs in uproar
By: Tim Mak
June 12, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
Conservatives in the blogosphere lashed out at Jeb Bush for saying that Ronald Reagan and his father, George H.W. Bush, would not have fit well in the modern Republican Party, ripping the former Florida governor as a “RINO” and dismissing his “steaming pile of nonsense.”
The internet uproar was touched off by Bush’s remarks at a Bloomberg View event on Monday when he said, “Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad — they would have a hard time if you define the Republican Party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow for finding some common ground.”
Conservatives shredded Bush’s analysis by pointing to the Republican Party’s current presidential nominee.
“Bush is hardly the first — or the last — Republican to voice sentiments like these. But it seems strange to keep beating this drum when Republicans just nominated Mitt Romney, who was not exactly considered the conservative stalwart among the 2012 GOP candidates this cycle,” notes Katrina Trinko at the National Review’s “The Corner.”
“[T]he GOP is so extreme our last two nominees have been John McCain and Mitt Romney … “I am so sick and tired of this garbage,” wrote a blogger at the conservative Ace of Spades HQ, who called Bush’s comments a “steaming pile of nonsense.”
“There obviously is room for Ronald Reagan and the Bushes in today’s GOP. Romney is obviously to the left, at least if you go by past policy, of Reagan and Bush 43,” wrote Bryan Preston at Pajamas Media.
And others pointed to the fact that Reagan often sharply criticized his Democratic opponents.
“Jeb Bush’s analysis is incomplete at best if he sees the GOP as more sharply partisan now than it was under Reagan,” continued Preston. “Reagan spared nothing when criticizing Democrat and socialist policies. He went over the heads of the Democrats and the media to articulate his goals, and used the presidency effectively to achieve them.”
Among those who came to Bush’s defense, a common theme from the right was that the former governor also laid some of the blame for the partisan divide at the feet of President Barack Obama.
“His [Obama’s] first year could have been a year of enormous accomplishment had he focused on things where there was more common ground,” Bush said Monday, according to Buzzfeed, accusing the president of making a “purely political calculation” to run a partisan administration.
“I have no problem with him claiming that the current political climate is excessively partisan, particularly since he places much of the blame for this on President Obama,” reacts Paul Mirengoff at the Powerline blog.
Meanwhile, the progressive blogosphere debated whether Bush’s comments suggest that a moderate Republicanism would emerge should Romney lose in November.
“Bush is clearly engaged in an effort to position himself as the next leader of the Republican Party,” wrote New York Magazine’s Jonathan Chait. “To understand what Bush is saying, you need to anticipate how the party might diagnose the causes of a loss in 2012, and then you can see how he is setting himself as the cure. Bush has been publicly urging Republicans to moderate their tone toward Latinos and to embrace immigration reform. Here is the one issue where Republicans, should they lose, will almost surely conclude that they need to moderate their party stance.”
“Sorry — the party isn’t going to moderate by 2016 if Romney loses,” responded a blogger at the Booman Tribune. “It isn’t going to moderate in policy and it isn’t going to moderate in tone. I don’t care how pugnacious Romney is now. I don’t care how many hippies he punches. I don’t care how wingnutty his running mate is. If he loses, the post mortem from the most influential right-wingers is going to be: we nominated a RINO, the same way we did in 2008, and we lost to the Kenyan socialist. The way to win is to nominate a true conservative.”
Liberals also took the opportunity to tout’s Bush’s rebuke of “far-right wing Republicans.”
“[H]e became the latest in a lengthy parade of former GOP officeholders to express significant discomfort with the current purge by far-right wing Republicans of any moderates or even bipartisan-minded conservatives in their party,” wrote Josh Israel at ThinkProgress.
“Jeb Bush is right. Even Ronald Reagan couldn’t have made it through today’s GOP nominating process. That’s why Mitt Romney had to tack so hard to the right to become the Republican nominee,” wrote Brendan Daly, a former communications director for Nancy Pelosi, at POLITICO’s Arena.
“Yes he is right. In fact, since Richard Nixon Democrats and Republicans have worked together on a number of things, from EPA to immigration reform, which extremist Republicans are trying to throw out,” agreed Democratic strategist Celinda Lake in the Arena.
But the left also couldn’t resist pointing out that Bush was no moderate in their eyes.
politico
“Don’t get the idea that Bush’s criticism of the Republican Party suggest he is a moderate. Bush also supported the extremist Ryan budget,” remarks Ron Chusid at Liberal Values.
And, as does often occur, the left focused their ire on Bush’s criticism of Democrats – in this case, President Barack Obama, who Bush claimed had made a “purely political decision” to be partisan.
“Sorry, Jeb. If you believe Barack Obama is to blame for the Republican Party’s lurch to the right, then you’re not exposing the problem … you are the problem,” wrote Jed Lewison at the Daily Kos
“[A]fter this on-point criticism of the obstructionist loons who’ve taken over the Republican Party, Jeb decided he had to throw a bone to them and blame the whole thing on guess who [Obama],” wrote Charles Johnson at the progressive blog Little Green Footballs.
© 2012 POLITICO LLC
nohero said:
Zoinks said:
Your hero Bruce Springsteen had a daughter who competed in the U.S. Olympic trials in equestrian but failed to make the team. He has helped raise money for the sport. We take care of our own indeed.
See, my post was due to the fact that I was amused by the dressage bit. Top hats, dancing horses, stuff like that.
Your post is your usual type, and first of all you don't know the difference between riding a fast-moving horse and jumping in an equestrian event (with a helmet on, in the sport where Christopher Reeve was injured) and dressing up and riding a dancing horse.
No, I am not a member of the horse set as you clearly are.
Zoinks said:
nohero said:
Zoinks said:
Your hero Bruce Springsteen had a daughter who competed in the U.S. Olympic trials in equestrian but failed to make the team. He has helped raise money for the sport. We take care of our own indeed.
See, my post was due to the fact that I was amused by the dressage bit. Top hats, dancing horses, stuff like that.
Your post is your usual type, and first of all you don't know the difference between riding a fast-moving horse and jumping in an equestrian event (with a helmet on, in the sport where Christopher Reeve was injured) and dressing up and riding a dancing horse.
No, I am not a member of the horse set as you clearly are.
Actually, it has to do with basic literacy.
nohero, Zoinks has downloaded the jld "instant reply" app which matches names to their counterparts on the opposite side. $1.99 I think; Android and iPhone.
GL2 said:
nohero, Zoinks has downloaded the jld "instant reply" app which matches names to their counterparts on the opposite side. $1.99 I think; Android and iPhone.
You're right. That explains it.
In a way, I should be honored that the app pairs "Nohero" and "Springsteen" in the right-wing respond-o-matic.
Zoinks said:
nohero said:
Zoinks said:
Your hero Bruce Springsteen had a daughter who competed in the U.S. Olympic trials in equestrian but failed to make the team. He has helped raise money for the sport. We take care of our own indeed.
See, my post was due to the fact that I was amused by the dressage bit. Top hats, dancing horses, stuff like that.
Your post is your usual type, and first of all you don't know the difference between riding a fast-moving horse and jumping in an equestrian event (with a helmet on, in the sport where Christopher Reeve was injured) and dressing up and riding a dancing horse.
No, I am not a member of the horse set as you clearly are.
I've ridden a horse twice in my life and I knew that.
nohero said:
Zoinks said:
nohero said:
Zoinks said:
Your hero Bruce Springsteen had a daughter who competed in the U.S. Olympic trials in equestrian but failed to make the team. He has helped raise money for the sport. We take care of our own indeed.
See, my post was due to the fact that I was amused by the dressage bit. Top hats, dancing horses, stuff like that.
Your post is your usual type, and first of all you don't know the difference between riding a fast-moving horse and jumping in an equestrian event (with a helmet on, in the sport where Christopher Reeve was injured) and dressing up and riding a dancing horse.
No, I am not a member of the horse set as you clearly are.
Actually, it has to do with basic literacy.
Thats why I didn't do so well on the SATs. I did not have the privileged background you clearly had.
ridski said:
Zoinks said:
nohero said:
Zoinks said:
Your hero Bruce Springsteen had a daughter who competed in the U.S. Olympic trials in equestrian but failed to make the team. He has helped raise money for the sport. We take care of our own indeed.
See, my post was due to the fact that I was amused by the dressage bit. Top hats, dancing horses, stuff like that.
Your post is your usual type, and first of all you don't know the difference between riding a fast-moving horse and jumping in an equestrian event (with a helmet on, in the sport where Christopher Reeve was injured) and dressing up and riding a dancing horse.
No, I am not a member of the horse set as you clearly are.
I've ridden a horse twice in my life and I knew that.
That's twice more than I have.
Gosh, for a minute there it looked like we were having a policy discussion among reasonably intelligent adults. Now we're talking about horses (or something).
mjh said:
Gosh, for a minute there it looked like we were having a policy discussion among reasonably intelligent adults. Now we're talking about horses (or something).
My bad. I used an example that amused me from today's news, to respond to Mr. JL's assertion that things will be grim around here.
I have no idea why he would say that things will be grim. Governor Romney can't stay away from the press forever, and he could give "walking gaffe machine" lessons to Joe Biden. :-D
Zoinks said:
That's twice more than I have.
Must be my super privileged upbringing. The first time was actually a donkey race in a holiday camp when I was 6. The second time was about 7 years ago when me and my friends decided to do it on a whim in the Poconos. Damn thing decided to trot once and nearly killed me.
I'm sure there are many "upper class" experiences we've all had that have ***** all to do with the class we live in. Especially in this country, where class doesn't matter as much as confidence and cash does.
Hey, jld, here's the rebuttal to your Obamacare-kills-jobs theme...
SCOOP - House "GOP adjusts health care strategy," by Jake Sherman and Jonathan Allen: "Speaker John Boehner recently told Republicans in a private meeting to change their tone on health care and fast: stop using 'job-killing' to describe the Obama health care law. Instead, emphasize that the law drives up costs and makes things worse for small businesses. The job-killing message was polling poorly ... GOP leaders plan to bookend July with a weeklong debate on health care ... and a tax-cut fight at the end of the month. The strategy ... comes at a time when many rank-and-file Republicans are grumbling that they don't have much to show for the last year and a half." http://bit.ly/M1zag6
SCOOP - House "GOP adjusts health care strategy," by Jake Sherman and Jonathan Allen: "Speaker John Boehner recently told Republicans in a private meeting to change their tone on health care and fast: stop using 'job-killing' to describe the Obama health care law. Instead, emphasize that the law drives up costs and makes things worse for small businesses. The job-killing message was polling poorly ... GOP leaders plan to bookend July with a weeklong debate on health care ... and a tax-cut fight at the end of the month. The strategy ... comes at a time when many rank-and-file Republicans are grumbling that they don't have much to show for the last year and a half." http://bit.ly/M1zag6
Jun 13, 2012 at 10:46am Edited
Cafe Owner After Hosting Romney Event: "I felt like it was a mocking"
http://www.kptm.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?vt1=v&clipFormat=flv&clipId1=7393670&at1=News&h1=Business Cleaning Up After Romney Campaign Stop&flvUri=&partnerclipid=
http://www.kptm.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?vt1=v&clipFormat=flv&clipId1=7393670&at1=News&h1=Business Cleaning Up After Romney Campaign Stop&flvUri=&partnerclipid=
Romney compared unfavorably with Rick Perry, who had visited the same cafe and had greeted and thanked the workers. In contrast, Romney and his group broke things and left a mess. Said the cafe owner, "You would think Obama was here."
kathy said:
Said the cafe owner, "You would think Obama was here."
I have no sympathy for that woman. You ask for it; you got it.
Jun 14, 2012 at 6:17am Edited
Louie Gohmert: look at and listen to him - a walking ad for what kind of a$$hole can be elected in parts of this great land. I always try to imagine the voter who puts a Louie in office. It ain't a pretty demographic. Oh, and yes, this post is clearly Northeast snobbery.
I'll bet that cafe owner would vote for a Gohmert. It's better than a (yuck!) BHO!
I'll bet that cafe owner would vote for a Gohmert. It's better than a (yuck!) BHO!
Shootout at the GOP Corral; outlaw Jeb Bush joined by amigos
The Republican family feud
By: Maggie Haberman
June 14, 2012 04:37 AM EDT
It turns out Democrats are not the only ones with a surrogate problem.
When Jeb Bush, Mitch Daniels and Scott Walker all lobbed rhetorical explosive devices of varying sizes in Mitt Romney’s direction, Democrats were gleeful that Republicans now had their own version of a Bain family feud.
But like Bill Clinton — who has caused the Obama campaign major headaches — those close to these Republican heavyweights say that they are simply telling the truth about what they see as weaknesses in the modern-day GOP and with its standard-bearer’s message. Bush’s and Daniels’s supporters — who decry the party’s hard ideological edges along with Washington’s partisanship on both sides and want to see a bold GOP campaign — say they are just calling things as they see them, and have the stature to do so.
“I think he is just plain honest,” said Republican strategist Mike Murphy, who has advised Bush in the past, referring to the former Florida governor’s condemnation of the extreme partisanship on both sides of the aisle in Washington. “He’s right and has the guts to say what he thinks.”
The Republican family feud
By: Maggie Haberman
June 14, 2012 04:37 AM EDT
It turns out Democrats are not the only ones with a surrogate problem.
When Jeb Bush, Mitch Daniels and Scott Walker all lobbed rhetorical explosive devices of varying sizes in Mitt Romney’s direction, Democrats were gleeful that Republicans now had their own version of a Bain family feud.
But like Bill Clinton — who has caused the Obama campaign major headaches — those close to these Republican heavyweights say that they are simply telling the truth about what they see as weaknesses in the modern-day GOP and with its standard-bearer’s message. Bush’s and Daniels’s supporters — who decry the party’s hard ideological edges along with Washington’s partisanship on both sides and want to see a bold GOP campaign — say they are just calling things as they see them, and have the stature to do so.
“I think he is just plain honest,” said Republican strategist Mike Murphy, who has advised Bush in the past, referring to the former Florida governor’s condemnation of the extreme partisanship on both sides of the aisle in Washington. “He’s right and has the guts to say what he thinks.”
On a lighter note, Fox & Friends co-anchor Brian Kilmeade is such a sexist nozzle that even Gretchen Carlson couldn't take it anymore.
Michigan house passes most restrictive anti-abortion law in US.
Lisa Brown speaks against it and gets censored
Lisa Brown speaks against it and gets censored
GOP Guys on the Same Page
"Bill O'Reilly said that President Obama was acting like Richard Nixon in his handling of the investigation into potential White House leaks."
In other news...
"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) leveled harsh criticism at the Obama campaign on Thursday, comparing the president and his team's efforts to "silence critics" to the actions of Richard Nixon."
"Bill O'Reilly said that President Obama was acting like Richard Nixon in his handling of the investigation into potential White House leaks."
In other news...
"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) leveled harsh criticism at the Obama campaign on Thursday, comparing the president and his team's efforts to "silence critics" to the actions of Richard Nixon."
I didn't see in the video that she got censored. They seemed to let her speak to the end of her comments. Was there more to it?
Stupid to ban them, at least from a strategic perspective. This only gives these women a national forum and a platform for overturning the legislation through legal appeals.
Far smarter to have simply ignored them and out-voted them, which was certain to happen in today's Michigan (or Virginia, or Arizona, or Wisconsin, or.....).
I am coming to the conclusion that things are going to get a lot worse for liberal causes before they get better, and they will eventually get better when people realize the very real human costs of the Romney-Ryna-Walker world view. Unfortunately, a whole lot of us are going to get hurt in a lot of ways before that happens, however. I am not advocating giving up the liberal fight, but I am thinking that loyal opposition is the best we will do for a while.
Far smarter to have simply ignored them and out-voted them, which was certain to happen in today's Michigan (or Virginia, or Arizona, or Wisconsin, or.....).
I am coming to the conclusion that things are going to get a lot worse for liberal causes before they get better, and they will eventually get better when people realize the very real human costs of the Romney-Ryna-Walker world view. Unfortunately, a whole lot of us are going to get hurt in a lot of ways before that happens, however. I am not advocating giving up the liberal fight, but I am thinking that loyal opposition is the best we will do for a while.
mfpark said:
Stupid to ban them, at least from a strategic perspective. This only gives these women a national forum and a platform for overturning the legislation through legal appeals.
Far smarter to have simply ignored them and out-voted them, which was certain to happen in today's Michigan (or Virginia, or Arizona, or Wisconsin, or.....).
I am coming to the conclusion that things are going to get a lot worse for liberal causes before they get better, and they will eventually get better when people realize the very real human costs of the Romney-Ryna-Walker world view. Unfortunately, a whole lot of us are going to get hurt in a lot of ways before that happens, however. I am not advocating giving up the liberal fight, but I am thinking that loyal opposition is the best we will do for a while.
I hope you're wrong but the momentum is not on the liberal side. Its all on the side of the ultra wealthy and the ultra conservative. Im just worried that too much bad will be enacted before we can reverse the direction.
These things have an irregular cycle about them. Gramsci called it hegemony, and while it can be manipulated by those in power, there are also broader social environmental trends that seem to override all but the most oppressive regimes (left or right).
Jeb has a point, especially about the hyper-partisanship at the present time. Romney was a member of the reasonable branch of the GOP when he was Governor of Massachusetts. Now, in order to get the nomination and keep the base happy and, hopefully, going to the polls in November he sounds like a Tea Party type.
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See, my post was due to the fact that I was amused by the dressage bit. Top hats, dancing horses, stuff like that.
Your post is your usual type, and first of all you don't know the difference between riding a fast-moving horse and jumping in an equestrian event (with a helmet on, in the sport where Christopher Reeve was injured) and dressing up and riding a dancing horse.