Columbia's Twin? archived
Dec 13, 2006 at 5:10pm Edited
Wow! It certainly is similar looking; at least the central entrance is. When we moved here, I'd heard that Columbia was the cutting edge for design when it was built and that many schools built just afterwards emulated CHS. I would bet that there are other schools besides the one you discovered built on our model.
I have a book (one of a series) entitled "The Boys of Columbia High." It's fairly clear that the school is fictional, but the cover illustration has a clock tower like CHS.
Thanks for sharing that info, Steve.
I have a book (one of a series) entitled "The Boys of Columbia High." It's fairly clear that the school is fictional, but the cover illustration has a clock tower like CHS.
Thanks for sharing that info, Steve.
That's so funny - we watched the SNL skit you talked about and I said to my husband - "Hey that's Columbia High School," and then we realized it couldn't be because there wasn't a clock in the tower. Thanks for posting - solved that mystery.
Glad to help! I had initially assumed the SNL producers had gone somewhere to videotape that shot, but it turns out they bought it from a stock-footage company. Now that I know all the other movies/shows Marshall HS has appeared in, it will be obvious.
For decades now, I have believed (because I was told it was so by an alum in 1966) that CHS was used as the setting in the opening sequence (when all the kids are pouring off the bus and the teachers are leaving the parking lot before entering through the front doors) of the NBC series "Room 222". Now that I see such a doppelganger in LA (where I assume the show filmed), I'm beginning to have my doubts...:sad:
-s.
-s.
So Steve- Have you made any attempts to connect Columbia and the flat-roofed clockless Potemkin village replica? (yes, I am jealous of the "doppelganger" word use) I'm sure they would be just as interested to find out they are the replica ,than it is for CHS to find out they had a replica. The scale almost seems identical doesn't it?
-John
-John
Soda- Yeah, that show likely used Marshall HS. It does beg the question of whether CHS *was* used for any movie/tv productions. I know there was a quickie cameo in Garden State, and the film being done now by the Shues. Of course some of us remember the infamous Pepsi commercial with Gabe Kaplan. I've dug through the CHS archives a number of times, and didn't notice anything about it being used for outside productions. It would be interesting to put this together definitively!
John- I know nothing about this Potemkin village you speak of, can you explain, show me pictures?
John- I know nothing about this Potemkin village you speak of, can you explain, show me pictures?
I once interviewed a local for an article (on something completely different) who told me that CHS was in the movie "Stepmom." Is that true?
Yes, I've heard that too. I think it was also in Gross Point Blank
Dec 14, 2006 at 8:27am Edited
Sorry for being misleading. I was just jealous of soda for getting to use the word "doppelganger" so I decided to use the equally obscure phrase "Potemkin Village" to refer to Marshall HS... and a Potemkin village being:
NOUN: Something that appears elaborate and impressive but in actual fact lacks substance:
ETYMOLOGY: After Grigori Aleksandrovich Potemkin, who had elaborate fake villages constructed for Catherine the Great's tours of the Ukraine and the Crimea.
My inference being that CHS was the great original and Marshall merely the cheap replica... flat roofs, no clock.
-John
NOUN: Something that appears elaborate and impressive but in actual fact lacks substance:
ETYMOLOGY: After Grigori Aleksandrovich Potemkin, who had elaborate fake villages constructed for Catherine the Great's tours of the Ukraine and the Crimea.
My inference being that CHS was the great original and Marshall merely the cheap replica... flat roofs, no clock.
-John
Lilb - "Damn you, John Marshall High, Damn you ta' helllll!!!!" 
John - Ok, gotcha, Mr. Clever. I haven't tried very hard to connect them, per se. Everything I found regarding the history of the school is already linked in my article (by the way, Microsoft updated their angled overhead maps at local.live.com, that I linked to for the schools, aren't they great?)
Lindsey isn't in my school architecture book, and I did a cursory search in some of my databases, but nada. I found a few of his other buildings online; mostly Mediterranean style, which would be appropriate for those climes. Otherwise there's not much on him.
John - Ok, gotcha, Mr. Clever. I haven't tried very hard to connect them, per se. Everything I found regarding the history of the school is already linked in my article (by the way, Microsoft updated their angled overhead maps at local.live.com, that I linked to for the schools, aren't they great?)
Lindsey isn't in my school architecture book, and I did a cursory search in some of my databases, but nada. I found a few of his other buildings online; mostly Mediterranean style, which would be appropriate for those climes. Otherwise there's not much on him.
Soda: I was a kid when Room 222 aired. I was devoted to it. My fuzzy memory paints a picture of a big wide plaza in front of the school building, which would probably eliminate CHS.
Dec 19, 2006 at 1:54pm Edited
Next you're gonna tell me that Karen Valentine slept around...
http://www.tv.com/room-222/show/2167/summary.html
http://www.tv.com/room-222/show/2167/summary.html
Nice find! Just to point out the obvious, "Los Angeles High School" above is different from John Marshall HS, although they do certainly share characteristics (LAH is in the earlier Jacobean style, it's not strictly Collegiate Gothic). I'll need to find out who built that one.
Check out this site:
http://www.imdb.com/LocationTree?New+Jersey,+USA
It shows you all the towns that have been used to make movies. Click on the town and you see the movies that were made there.
http://www.imdb.com/LocationTree?New+Jersey,+USA
It shows you all the towns that have been used to make movies. Click on the town and you see the movies that were made there.
Wasn't CHS shown in "Garden State" as well? IMDB has it being shot in South Orange, not Maplewood.
CHS was show *very* briefly in Garden State, in a drive-by shot.
This is Teaneck HS. The architect was Ralph Hacker. As for a similarity with CHS, well, not so much really, but it was built about the same time, 1928, and has a common lineage in its Tudor/Jacobean influence.
[More shots](http://www.teaneck.org/virtualvillage/Postcards/highschool/highschool.htm)
This is Teaneck HS. The architect was Ralph Hacker. As for a similarity with CHS, well, not so much really, but it was built about the same time, 1928, and has a common lineage in its Tudor/Jacobean influence.
[More shots](http://www.teaneck.org/virtualvillage/Postcards/highschool/highschool.htm)
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