Bill Cosby mentored women solely for sex - '05 deposition

If possible, listen to the women describe their attack. Reading the essays is quite different from listening to their first person accounts. What a nasty piece of work Cosby is. And yes, him playing a GYN on tv is uber creepy.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html




kibbegirl said:
If possible, listen to the women describe their attack. Reading the essays is quite different from listening to their first person accounts. What a nasty piece of work Cosby is. And yes, him playing a GYN on tv is uber creepy.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html


This is such an incredibly powerful presentation. The Lili Bernard video brought tears to my eyes.



shoshannah said:


TarheelsInNj said:
Well, um, a gynecologist shouldn't be prescribing anything to Bill Cosby who is clearly not a patient
This reminds me, wasn't Dr. Huxtable an OB/GYN? Creepy.

Yes. And it makes me sad, because I remember a very funny story he told on the show about coaching a woman through birth as if he were a cheerleader at a baseball game.

He was very funny, and I miss that. I guess I grieve a little for the image that I used to have of Bill Cosby


Dun dun dunnnnnn


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/06/429925831/bill-cosby-will-be-deposed-by-accuser-s-lawyer-this-fall


I feel quietly triumphant about that. I'm not proud of feeling elated about it, but there it is. He needs to face the music now.



PeggyC said:
I feel quietly triumphant about that. I'm not proud of feeling elated about it, but there it is. He needs to face the music now.

Unfortunately, people like him never really come to understand what they didd wrong. They live in a sea of denial and rationalizations.


My concern is that this incident allegedly took place in '74. Cosby will claim not to remember (and it might be true). I hope this isn't the case. I don't want this first case to be a non-starter.



shoshannah said:


PeggyC said:
I feel quietly triumphant about that. I'm not proud of feeling elated about it, but there it is. He needs to face the music now.
Unfortunately, people like him never really come to understand what they didd wrong. They live in a sea of denial and rationalizations.

At this point, I don't care whether he understands or admits it. I just really want him to be thoroughly inconvenienced and financially impacted in a way that will hurt on some level that is even a fraction of the hurt he caused dozens of women.


Yeah, whether it sticks or not doesn't even matter. I'd love to see every one of the file a separate suit against him and make him answer for each one.

On another note, how can there be a statute of limitations on rape? Such a vicious crime and so often shrouded in secrecy and shame. Especially for rape or sexual assaultof a child. There should be no statute of limitations on that.



conandrob240 said:
Yeah, whether it sticks or not doesn't even matter. I'd love to see every one of the file a separate suit against him and make him answer for each one.
On another note, how can there be a statute of limitations on rape? Such a vicious crime and so often shrouded in secrecy and shame. Especially for rape or sexual assaultof a child. There should be no statute of limitations on that.

If it happened to men there probably wouldn't be.


For sale: Creepy wax/rubber replica of Bill Cosby.

http://www.avclub.com/article/anyone-want-9500-life-size-wax-replica-bill-cosby--230202


Those crazy Belgians! Known for their waffles and kooky Cosby replicas.

A woman's rights group should buy it and publicly set it on fire. 


DottyParker said:

For sale: Creepy wax/rubber replica of Bill Cosby.

http://www.avclub.com/article/anyone-want-9500-life-size-wax-replica-bill-cosby--230202

Ok, now that's truly weird.  I have to also admit that I don't find it immediately recognizable (but maybe I'm just more familiar with his older image).  


eliz said:

It's hard to have pillow talk if your partner is unconscious so I guess she's ok there.

Holy crap.  I didn't even get past this comment but I am (ashamed?) to say I laughed, hard.


mjh said:



j_r said:
Efforts to assign blame for Bill Cosby's predatory behavior and its fallout to anyone other than Bill Cosby himself strike me as terribly misdirected.

Agree with this. My only interest in Camille Cosby is a vague clinical interest in the pathology of the relationship and her ability to live within it.

Mine too.


Still trying to figure out why some are defending this man. I hear "he's so old now! leave him alone" or "those women are money hungry." I don't necessarily believe ALL of the women are telling the truth, but a majority are. I also don't think it's easy for a woman to face the man, the court and the media and re-tell how they were drugged and raped. Humiliating is the best word I can come up with right now. 


Trying to understand why a woman whose case is past the statute of limitations, and/or who doesn't stand to make anything off of coming forward, would be publicly coming forward to reveal humiliating or otherwise uncomfortable details about their past.


ctrzaska said:

Trying to understand why a woman whose case is past the statute of limitations, and/or who doesn't stand to make anything off of coming forward, would be publicly coming forward to reveal humiliating or otherwise uncomfortable details about their past.

To bolster the case of a woman whose case has NOT run the statute of limitations, in the interests of getting some measure of justice. The sheer number of so-similar stories makes every individual story more credible. Strength in numbers. Solidarity.


Hadn't thought of that.  Makes sense.


boomie said:
mjh said:





j_r said:
Efforts to assign blame for Bill Cosby's predatory behavior and its fallout to anyone other than Bill Cosby himself strike me as terribly misdirected.

Agree with this. My only interest in Camille Cosby is a vague clinical interest in the pathology of the relationship and her ability to live within it.

Mine too.

I wonder if she's afraid of him.  I'd be.


Could also be the relief/release of being able to say it out loud after decades of painful silence for some. Imagine having to keep something that awful to yourself for so long for fear of not being believed or even blamed for horrible motives. These women really need each others' stories to make that possible.


I suspect this was something of a don't ask, don't tell arrangement in the marriage. She probably knew he was a player, but not every cheater is a sexual predator. Many marriages are a mystery, why they work or don't.  


Hmm…

Dr. Love: Bill Cosby’s Sordid Double Life Of Affairs, Assault Claims & An Alleged Love Child Exposed In Steamy New Tell-All

Camille’s humiliations were far from over. In 2004, 13 women accused Cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting them in a civil lawsuit that was settled in 2006, under sealed terms. And while Whitaker glosses over the period in his book, the effect of Cosby’s womanizing on his wife, Whitaker claims, was undeniable.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/09/bill-cosby-tell-all-book-sex-love-child/


I don't think there is any way to know what has been going on in his wife's mind for all this time. I would imagine for a long time she wanted to believe he, like many celebrities, had the occasional fling but as long as he came home to her, she turned a blind eye and tried to accept things. And perhaps she really believed at first that the claims some women were making were motivated by greed and completely untrue. Later, it would become much more difficult for her to believe in his innocence on any level. 

I feel for her. Cosby put her in one hell of a position. And it just keeps getting worse. Once upon a time, it might not have been unreasonable for her to choose to believe in him. I wonder at what point she began to realize that he was not the man she had hoped she married, and that there was no denying the claims any more?


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