Bill Cosby mentored women solely for sex - '05 deposition

I must have been living under a rock until this came out about Cosby a few years ago. I had no idea that these rumors had been floating around for so long. It's sickening. Especially since he's been this paragon of fatherly virtue for decades with access to children. Just thinking about all the condescending, pandering things he's said to the "black community" over the years while silencing his rape victims with hush money makes my blood boil. This is all coming out after he's enjoyed a lifetime of success, money and fame...whatever happens to him now is too little, too late, in my opinion.

The actor, Joseph C. Phillips who played Denise Huxtable's armed forces husband, Martin Kendall, speaks out AGAINST Cosby via Salon.com. Very, very interesting read.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/15/of_course_bill_cosby_is_guilty_three_shocking_revelations_from_cosby_show_actors_tell_all/

Hahaha said:
I must have been living under a rock until this came out about Cosby a few years ago. I had no idea that these rumors had been floating around for so long. It's sickening. Especially since he's been this paragon of fatherly virtue for decades with access to children. Just thinking about all the condescending, pandering things he's said to the "black community" over the years while silencing his rape victims with hush money makes my blood boil. This is all coming out after he's enjoyed a lifetime of success, money and fame...whatever happens to him now is too little, too late, in my opinion.

I agree, I had no idea either. He was my university commencement speaker and we were SO thrilled. That was 12 years ago

While his behavior is utterly sickening and inexcusable, I'm almost more sickened at the cover-up that SO MANY PEOPLE participate in. How the hell many enablers did this pervert have???

And what I still don't understand is he was an extremely powerful, wealthy man. I feel certain he could have had plenty of consensual, adulterous sex. Why did he resort to these measures? It's a sick twisted fetish I feel like.

Rape isn't about sex.

Again, these weren't sexual affairs- they were heniiucrimes committed against women.

It wasn't even full-on rape, because he said over and over that they didn't have full sexual relations. What makes me feel ill about that is he said they never had sex because he "didn't want the women to fall in love" with him. He wanted momentary pleasure with women who were unwilling to participate. That is twisted in ways I have not previously thought of.

There's a real mental illness going on there. I do NOT say that to imply he is ill and therefore not responsible for his actions. He is totally responsible. But he is also one sick, twisted bastard.

"C'mon guys, why are you all getting worked up over disco biscuits?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/22/business/media/cosby-team-complains-of-a-smear.html

He even worked this into The Cosby Show! Anyone remember this episode?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-cosby-show-sauce_55a01a80e4b0a47ac15c889e

Rape can occur without "full on sexual relations". There were alsoplenty of instances where he raped women in the full sense of the word.

Rape is about violence, intimidation, fear, power-not really so much about the sex act.

Now he wants his hush money back:

Comedian Bill Cosby filed legal papers on Tuesday calling for court sanctions against a woman accusing him of sexual assault, saying she breached their confidentiality agreement in the leak of his full deposition from a 10-year-old civil case to the New York Times.

Cosby, 78, made the filing in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia in opposition to recent motions by Andrea Constand, a former Temple University employee who has alleged the comedian tricked her into taking drugs before he sexually assaulted her.

The lawsuit she brought against Cosby was settled for an undisclosed sum in 2006, and all documents from the litigation were sealed until a federal judge on July 6 released limited redacted excerpts from Cosby's 2005 deposition testimony in the case.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/bill-cosby-seeks-court-sanctions-against-accuser-over-deposition-leak/ar-AAdj6M4?ocid=ansentreu11

...because he needs the money.

I don't know who is in charge of his PR but that seems to me to be a BAD move.

TarheelsInNj said:
...because he needs the money.
I don't know who is in charge of his PR but that seems to me to be a BAD move.

Probably the same person who started the "MEME ME" fiasco that resurfaced this mess.

As if it couldn't get any creepier - news that Cosby had a deal with a NYC modeling agency to send over models to adorn his dressing room while filming "The Cosby Show."

Cosby testified about the exact type of vulnerable young beauties he wanted from a New York modeling agency during his "Cosby Show" heyday.

The girls were to be from out-of-town and "financially not doing well," Cosby reportedly said in a newly revealed section of his decade-old deposition obtained by the Washington Post.

Sue Charney (the owner of the modeling agency), now dead, represented both Janice Dickinson and former model Jewel Allison — two women who stepped forward last year to say they were drugged and sexually assaulted by Cosby in the 1980s.

How ironic that two of the models, Allison and Dickinson, were clients of that agency and both women claim that Cosby assaulted them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/bill-cosbys-own-words-provide-scandalous-details-of-his-hidden-life/2015/07/22/2abb3594-2fd0-11e5-97ae-30a30cca95d7_story.html?hpid=z1

conandrob240 said:
Rape can occur without "full on sexual relations". There were alsoplenty of instances where he raped women in the full sense of the word.
Rape is about violence, intimidation, fear, power-not really so much about the sex act.

I should have put that differently and said that there was no penetration because he believed the women would fall in love with him. Although why he would think that is beyond me.

In what cases did sexual relations with penetration occur? I missed that in the stories, or have forgotten it. I just know that in the deposition he said there was sexual contact but no penetration, for the already-mentioned absurd excuse. Of course, he was very likely lying to make it sound like what he did was somehow less heinous.

(edited to fix typo)

Vaginal penetration does not have to occur for it to be considered rape.

I am not sure what you are referring to- I didn't read every piece of that disgusting deposition. Many women have claimed full vaginal sex occurred ( perhaps not the ones bringing suit and part of the deposition). Others discuss other types of sex such as oral

Why do so many fellow actors still refer to this man as "Mr. Cosby"? He has made it very clear, early on that he feels as though he is not your peer and you should address him as "Mr. Cosby" even though you may also be a fellow actor/comedian and the same age as he. Cosby has a massive ego problem and I sure hope that someone with authority checks his ass soon. And please stop addressing him a "Dr. Cobsy." Doctor gives the impression that he is trustworthy, insightful and helpful. He is not.

kibbegirl said:
Why do so many fellow actors still refer to this man as "Mr. Cosby"? He has made it very clear, early on that he feels as though he is not your peer and you should address him as "Mr. Cosby" even though you may also be a fellow actor/comedian and the same age as he. Cosby has a massive ego problem and I sure hope that someone with authority checks his ass soon. And please stop addressing him a "Dr. Cobsy." Doctor gives the impression that he is trustworthy, insightful and helpful. He is not.

"Dr. Cosby." Please:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/11/24/bill-cosbys-doctoral-thesis-was-about-using-fat-albert-as-a-teaching-tool/

How about "Dr. D-bag?":

http://deadspin.com/the-nd-player-bill-cosby-berated-felt-like-a-failure-fo-1661591222

Or "Dr. Nutjob?":

http://www.rawstory.com/2014/11/bill-cosby-didnt-rape-me-but-what-he-did-has-always-given-me-the-creeps/

What an awful person. Imagine the nerve of this guy to get angry with Lisa Bonet over family values.

What is so bizarre is Cosby's seeming inability to understand what he did and why it was so wrong. It seems to be way more than a person who knows they are guilty denying any wrongdoing. Cosby seems to be operating in a alternate reality.

tjohn said:
What is so bizarre is Cosby's seeming inability to understand what he did and why it was so wrong. It seems to be way more than a person who knows they are guilty denying any wrongdoing. Cosby seems to be operating in a alternate reality.

Jerry Sandusky was (and surely still is) also convinced he is entirely innocent and that the accusations of sexual abuse of minors were all "much ado about nothing". This is apparently very common among pedophiles. I find it fascinating (in a horribly sick kind of way).

Like Cosby, "grooming" his targets was an art form developed and perfected over many, many years. They seemed to have built their lives around it.

[shudder]

conandrob240 said:
Vaginal penetration does not have to occur for it to be considered rape.
I am not sure what you are referring to- I didn't read every piece of that disgusting deposition. Many women have claimed full vaginal sex occurred ( perhaps not the ones bringing suit and part of the deposition). Others discuss other types of sex such as oral

I did not say it wasn't. I misspoke, then corrected myself. Can we move on? I'm not going to try to explain myself again. And where I got the information was not the "disgusting deposition" but the links to news stories posted in this thread.

I know a fair amount about rape, so let's not keep going around this maypole, please???

Um, okay. In your last post, you asked a question which meant to me you were looking for a response. Sorry I misunderstood.

And someone who understands rape wouldn't have used the statement "it wasn't even full on rape"

I too find it fascinating. In the same way I find some serial killers fascinating. Not making light of their crimes but the human mind is fascinating. Cosby suffers the same ails. Only he didn't knife someone to death and then hide their body under his floorboards.

conandrob240 said:
Um, okay. In your last post, you asked a question which meant to me you were looking for a response. Sorry I misunderstood.


And someone who understands rape wouldn't have used the statement "it wasn't even full on rape"

Um, PeggyC is referencing Cosby's logic and not her own. I've no doubt she understands the concept. So yes, please let this diversion go.

ctrzaska said:

conandrob240 said:
Um, okay. In your last post, you asked a question which meant to me you were looking for a response. Sorry I misunderstood.


And someone who understands rape wouldn't have used the statement "it wasn't even full on rape"

Um, PeggyC is referencing Cosby's logic and not her own. I've no doubt she understands the concept. So yes, please let this diversion go.

Thank you. I will now go away and try to let the adrenaline subside.

And it gets worse for Cos:

Bill Cosby got Quaaludes from gynecologist suspended from practicing in New York, 2 other states via the NY Post.

"Did he know when he gave you those prescriptions that you had no intention of taking them?" a lawyer asked
"Yes," Cosby replied. The comedian later acknowledged he knew it was illegal for him to dispense the drugs to others.

Amar, who died in 2001 at the age of 71, ran into trouble with medical boards in three states and the law.
"I would not doubt in a minute that Amar would sign a prescription to give anybody anything they wanted," his former attorney Meldon S. Hollis Jr., who was disbarred for allegedly misappropriating Amar's money, told the Post.

"That's just the way he was. He was unscrupulous."

But Amar put his foot down when he learned Cosby had allegedly drugged and assaulted Tamara Green, a singer who Amar had introduced to Cosby, Hollis said.

"In her presence, Amar confronted Cosby, almost coming to blows," Hollis said. "He warned Cosby never to do anything like that again to Green."

Well, um, a gynecologist shouldn't be prescribing anything to Bill Cosby who is clearly not a patient

TarheelsInNj said:
Well, um, a gynecologist shouldn't be prescribing anything to Bill Cosby who is clearly not a patient

Absolutely. And that's the tip of the iceberg in this case. But this paragraph made my eyebrows shoot right up off my face:

"I would not doubt in a minute that Amar would sign a prescription to
give anybody anything they wanted," his former attorney Meldon S.
Hollis Jr., who was disbarred for allegedly misappropriating Amar's
money, told the Post. "That's just the way he was. He was unscrupulous."

There is so much inscrupulosity going on here the mind absolutely BOGGLES.

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How can anyone look at this cover and think to themselves, "All or most of these women are in cahoots with one another and they're all out for their 15 minutes of fame?" This cover is jarring!

TarheelsInNj said:
Well, um, a gynecologist shouldn't be prescribing anything to Bill Cosby who is clearly not a patient

This reminds me, wasn't Dr. Huxtable an OB/GYN? Creepy.