Bill Cosby mentored women solely for sex - '05 deposition

There is a point when your silence about your husbands behavior becomes criminal. cosbys wife is essentially a criminal for keeping her mouth shut about her husband. And she had plenty of money to get out, do the right thing and protect herself against him. She is dispicable. She's not some poor woman with no means to get herself out so we can and should judge her. Plenty (most) of women with nothing would at the very least get away from a rapist husband and many would muster up the guts to turn him in.

And the Paul Reuben's comparison here is a direct reflection of the problem with how rape is viewed by many. Cosby has committed felonies-atrocious crimes against women much more closely associated with murder than with masturbation on a scale of degrees of crime. It's disgusting the two are even mentioned as a comparison

bluepool said:
It's so easy to judge when you are so far on the outside of the lives of the strangers you're criticizing. I find it hard to believe that Camille Cosby or Jerry Sandusky's wife or most other women would quietly endorse their husbands' criminal assaults on women or children in exchange for ensuring their own material comfort and security. Some women who are wives of prominent and powerful men feel themselves to be deeply powerless and vulnerable and lacking in any other resources other than the ones provided by their successful spouses. Simply put, they are afraid -- afraid of turning their husbands' aggression on themselves, afraid of losing everything, afraid that their own children will lose everything. It's so easy to condemn these women for failing to "speak up" when you really have no idea what it's like to be in their shoes.

How do you not know that Mrs. Cosby isn't quietly endorsing her husband's behavior? You're doing the same thing you're accusing us of doing. Do you know her? Did she tell you her husband was aggressive towards her? I've never read that he was.

Mrs. Cosby holds a Master Degree and is extremely wealthy. The only thing she'd lose in this battle is her husband and part of her dignity. If divorced, she'll still have the money, the pedigree and probably more accolades than him.

And Mrs. Cosby did speak up and this is what she said in 2014: "I don't know exactly what it was, except that for me, integrity is important. For me friendships are important, family is important, and it is a blessing if we can have monetary benefits. That's wonderful, and I love it. But I have to have the security of people who really care about me, and me about them. I want to be surrounded by people who have integrity. And, of course, my name is Camille, not Bill."

If she thinks that after all that has surfaced and her telling the public that she knows about her husband's infidelities, I don't think either of them right now have much integrity.

conandrob240 said:
There is a point when your silence about your husbands behavior becomes criminal. cosbys wife is essentially a criminal for keeping her mouth shut about her husband. And she had plenty of money to get out, do the right thing and protect herself against him. She is dispicable. She's not some poor woman with no means to get herself out so we can and should judge her. Plenty (most) of women with nothing would at the very least get away from a rapist husband and many would muster up the guts to turn him in.
And the Paul Reuben's comparison here is a direct reflection of the problem with how rape is viewed by many. Cosby has committed felonies-atrocious crimes against women much more closely associated with murder than with masturbation on a scale of degrees of crime. It's disgusting the two are even mentioned as a comparison

^ THIS ^

kibbegirl, I don't know any more or any less than you do. You're conjecturing, and I'm conjecturing. You have your opinion, and I have my opinion. I do know a thing or two about imbalances of power in a marriage. It doesn't matter how many advanced degrees Mrs. Cosby has, or how wealthy she is. She is the wife of a famous and powerful man. All of her accomplishment in life, other than the degrees she earned, is due to the fact of being Mrs. Cosby. All the money she has came as a result of being married to him. Who and what is Camille Cosby, if she's not Mrs. Cosby? There are some strong incentives there for her to not rock the boat... Does this mean she did the right thing by not exposing her husband's activities, if she knew enough about them to have spared someone from harm by doing so? No, she did not. Does this rise to the level of being an accessory to criminal activity? I would be surprised if law enforcement decides that there is enough evidence to charge her with something (and the statute of limitations may have run out anyway). So far, they haven't.

There's often quite a gap between knowledge of crime and the ability to convict as an accessory. Doesn't make it much less disgusting that she may not be convicted. Hell, the multiple rapist isn't even going to be convicted

I brought up Reubens because Cosby's antics have actually been known for some time, but he was treated with Kid Gloves. It's incredibly hypocritical.

Efforts to assign blame for Bill Cosby's predatory behavior and its fallout to anyone other than Bill Cosby himself strike me as terribly misdirected.

j_r said:
Efforts to assign blame for Bill Cosby's predatory behavior and its fallout to anyone other than Bill Cosby himself strike me as terribly misdirected.

Agree with this. My only interest in Camille Cosby is a vague clinical interest in the pathology of the relationship and her ability to live within it.

No one was assigning blame at all. He's 100% responsible for his crimes. She's also 100% responsible for her silence about said crimes. Both are criminal.

conandrob240 said:
No one was assigning blame at all. He's 100% responsible for his crimes. She's also 100% responsible for her silence about said crimes. Both are criminal.

Please explain to all of us which crime Camille is guilty of?

I'm old enough to come over to your house, buy a ticket, and masturbate in your living room.

WHERE is that thread on out-of-context MOL quotes?

Which is it?

conandrob240 said:
cosbys wife is essentially a criminal for keeping her mouth shut about her husband.

conandrob240 said:
No one was assigning blame at all.

j_r said:
Which is it?

conandrob240 said:
cosbys wife is essentially a criminal for keeping her mouth shut about her husband.

conandrob240 said:
No one was assigning blame at all.

They are both guilty of two different things. Saying she is guilty of possibly aiding and abetting or at least ignoring doesn't mean she is to blame for the crimes her husband committed.

How is Camille Cosby any different than Hillary Clinton?

Plenty of allegations there too. Not to mention Sexual Harassment. You cant have a sexual relationship with a work subordinate (aka Intern).

People who do not expose others for their crimes are just as guilty. If she knows her husband is drugging women for sex, I'm now looking at her sideways because this is NOT AT ALL ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FROM ANYONE. She's now saying that the women knew they were being drugged in order to have sex. WTF? Is that the defense?

If she wishes to remain Mrs. Cosby and all the glory that comes along with that moniker then she MUST also now live with all sh!t show that also comes with that moniker. She is a silent partner in an extremely long term bizarre, criminal behavior.

Wow, seriously? And here we are back at the problem with how many see rape.

Bill Clinton had consensual affairs with adult women.

Bill Cosby RAPED women.

Please tell me you see the difference?!?!

And as long as they are married, she cannot be compelled to testify against him.

conandrob240 said:
Wow, seriously? And here we are back at the problem with how many see rape.


Bill Clinton had consensual affairs with adult women.
Bill Cosby RAPED women.
Please tell me you see the difference?!?!

Seriously. You are exactly right. Plenty of the Clinton women said NON consensual. How is any diff ? Oh and sexual harassment sometimes you can't consent to relationship.

And this ignorance is why rape is still treated with kid gloves in this country.

conandrob240 said:
And this ignorance is why rape is still treated with kid gloves in this country.

Wow so no clinton accuser is credible? They were ALL consentual? BS. Clinton in a hotel room no diff than Cosby. That is exactly my pt. Not defending either just calling hypocrisy . His allegations treated with kid gloves and she stood by his side. Same error as Camille? Criminals should be prosecuted regardless of their position .

Also. Are you also going to call out whoopie Goldberg for defending Cosby? Did you start a boycott of the view? Or she also why rape is still treated with kid gloves?

What on earth are you blabbing about?

No, whoopi or other Cosby defenders aren't criminals. Presumably, they weren't there living with him day to day privy to his actions. That's the difference between a defender like a whoopi and an accessory like Camille. As for his defenders, yes, while not criminals, they are ignorant fools who perpetuate the way rape is considered in this country.

Just like the ignorant fools who discuss sexual harassment, consensual marital affairs or masturbation in the same sentence as if they are in some way comparable to RAPE.

I also wouldn't say Clinton was treated with kid gloves. He was impeached and all... More punishment than Cosby will get, frankly

Me thinks Whoopi is no longer defending, is now questioning and may have spoke to someone in the Cosby camp. Prior to this, you could water board her and she was not budging on her defense of him.

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-view/video/VDKA0_2nhzqgbu

Did she really need to bring in a "legal expert" to assure her that the statute of limitations meant he could not be charged to date, and, that public opinion is indeed a separate thing? She knew this. I think her agent sat her down this past weekend and gave her a serious heads up

I didn't get the sense from that that she's changed her position.

"I gotta say that with all of the information that's out there now it kind of points to 'guilt' " is as far as she went with it

annielou said:
"I gotta say that with all of the information that's out there now it kind of points to 'guilt' " is as far as she went with it

And because she is friends with him, that's about as far as it will go. But it is a major improvement to what she had been saying.

Also, let's not forget Whoopi's staunch defense of Mel Gibson's anti Semitic rants and the physical abuse against his girlfriend.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/whoopi-goldberg-defends-mel-gibson-on-the-view/

Excerpts:

The bombshell deposition, unearthed by the New York Times, goes on to reveal how the disgraced comedian:

● Telephoned Andrea Constand (Temple University employee) and told her to tell her mother 'about the orgasm' because he didn't want her to think of him as a 'dirty old man'.

● Cosby admitted to engaging Constand in a conversation about her father's cancer with the sole aim of then having sex with her.

● Obtained prescriptions for quaaludes by claiming it was for a sore back, but actually gave the drug to women.

● Paid women off with a private account so his wife, Camille, wouldn't find out about his extramarital affairs.

● Admitted he was 'making light of a very serious situation' when quizzed by Constand's lawyer

● Admitted to playing the role of mentor when it came to meeting women

He's the kind of monster parents hope their daughters never encounter. And yet he's got daughters of his own. I wonder what they must think.

I wonder if Lisa Bonet will ever speak up about what, at this point, everyone assumes happened to her.