Bannon Is Out
Bannon can or may create whatever little alternate world of reality he wishes but again, so what? How great has that worked out for Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly for that matter in terms of moving the dial? Hell, even Alex Jones manages to make a ton of money selling all manner of nonsense with his nonsense but that ain’t running the country. It is only a stick rattling in the swill bucket for a limited number of those with a certain appetite.
Meanwhile, I agree that Mueller’s investigation results will be key and perhaps “the final cherry on top of the fecal pile” (I stole that phrase) however Trump’s steady demise of legislative influence and capital is evident.
When someone like Bob Corker says that Trump “has not been able to demonstrate the stability, nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful” I think he was actually being careful. I think what he was really saying was “this guy is nuts and a total f_ckup.”
Trump is, as I read elsewhere months ago “malevolence tempered by incompetence” and that observation will I believe, become stated or acted upon by even Republican congressman who are always the last to move out of a bad neighborhood.
That is also a sentiment quickly spreading beyond voters like me who hated him from the beginning. Each who abandon Trump gives others leave to do so, rendering him less and less powerful and more and more irrelevant with each twitter pronouncements. That matters and matters a lot.
It may be wishful thinking on my part but ever since Charlottesville, I’m beginning to realistically imagine a Trump who would actually finally say “F_ck this” and find some “noble” way of resigning while blaming everybody else on the planet and couching it in the language of serving self sacrifice.
Finally I would further cite below the quote and article written by a former ardent Trump supporter Julius Krein who wrote in the NYTimes:
“I can’t stand by this disgraceful administration any longer, and I would urge anyone who once supported him as I did to stop defending the 45th president.
Far from making America great again, Mr. Trump has betrayed the foundations of our common citizenship. And his actions are jeopardizing any prospect of enacting an agenda that might restore the promise of American life.”
Unfortunately, this turd helped get djt elected. So yes, maybe not live in dread, but certainly don't count him out. He's complete scum.
steel said:
Is anyone really supposed to live in dread of this turd's freakin' website editorials?
Frank Rich speaks:
With few exceptions, so-called GOP leaders are the same Vichy collaborators they’ve been since Trump seized the party’s presidential nomination. Notably pathetic, as always, is Paul Ryan, who tweeted that “there can be no moral ambiguity” about white supremacy, but then advertised his own craven moral ambiguity yet again by refusing to criticize Trump by name for his response to Charlottesville. That “moral ambiguity,” it’s necessary to recall, has been part and parcel of the GOP for decades. In its news story about Trump’s Charlottesville press conference this week, the Times misleadingly wrote that past Republican presidents, including Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, had “roundly condemned white supremacists.” (Even Trump has paid lip service to doing the same.) But the fact is that Reagan kicked off his first presidential campaign by giving a speech in favor of “states rights” in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the notorious site of the murder of three civil-rights workers, and Bush was elected president with the help of the notoriously racist Willie Horton ad. This stain on the GOP can’t be eradicated overnight, as Ryan and other Republican leaders have consistently shown in their tepid, ineffectual responses to Trump’s bigotry. That Trump’s approval rating among Republicans remains at nearly 80 percent is a testament to the party’s enduring “Southern strategy.”
Trump is the culmination of GOP " efforts" over the years; the chickens coming home to roost.
Trump's ego will not stand this constant roasting. Plus he is scared of the Russian connection. He will seek a graceful exit soon. Think of Nixon when his last real supporters where his family.
author said:
Trump's ego will not stand this constant roasting. Plus he is scared of the Russian connection. He will seek a graceful exit soon. Think of Nixon when his last real supporters where his family.
I share the belief of many of us that he wants to resign, but I think it will be noisy, spiteful and angry. I suspect it will be peppered with accusations against all of those that his base hates, the media, congress, the intel community and of course the Dems. Maybe he will hold pre-announcement rallies with promises of a new party, anything to keep his following. While I'm preparing to celebrate, I'm left with an uneasy feeling that with him in office or out, we are still left with a very angry population who will hate us even more.
my opinion is that Trump's ego will not be able to withstand the terrible ratings, the hatred of the entire country. He'll resign so he can make up excuses for why the failure was not his fault. I think as his kids take more abuse and his future business potential diminishes , that'll also get to him. I still say he never wanted this role and that he's probably looking for a way out that makes him look good.
I think maybe Kimmel was onto something in his monologue last week. Offer to make this clown "king" and he'll bite.
I'm not excited about Oence but at the very least, he won't be a constant source of embarrassment.
dave said:
Bannon will end up hurting Trump by trying to make Trump stick to his campaign promises.
Like this?
“Time to come home,” President Trump wrote on Twitter in 2012:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/08/21/mike-allen-trumps-afghan-plan-will-have-the-u-s-not-winning-but-not-losing/
Breitbart declares war on the Kochs:
Mercers vs. Kochs
The Kochs supported Pence and refused to contribute to Trump.
Politics makes for strange bedfellows.
Maybe Bannon/Breitbart are super strategists, and will win what they think they will win... but on the flip side, doesn't this attack also seem to set up the Freedom Caucus to vote with the Dems for impeachment?
Wait... maybe that is the real strategy? Bannon helps 'free' Trump of the presidency by making impeachment possible due to votes from the Koch's Freedom Caucus. Now the other Repubs won't have to vote for a Trump impeachment, so they get to keep the Trumpists on their side. Then they get more Trumpians voted into the house & senate. Like... maybe Kid Rock.
Reading this is giving me a massive headache but not as massive as the last seven months have
sprout said:
Politics makes for strange bedfellows.
Maybe Bannon/Breitbart are super strategists, and will win what they think they will win... but on the flip side, doesn't this attack also seem to set up the Freedom Caucus to vote with the Dems for impeachment?
Wait... maybe that is the real strategy? Bannon helps 'free' Trump of the presidency by making impeachment possible due to votes from the Koch's Freedom Caucus. Now the other Repubs won't have to vote for a Trump impeachment, so they get to keep the Trumpists on their side. Then they get more Trumpians voted into the house & senate. Like... maybe Kid Rock.
The Mercers have cut ties with Bannon. They won't finance him if he wants to run for President in 2020.
White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders issues statement saying "all personal devices for both guests and staff will no longer be allowed in the West Wing."
Bannon is financially self-sufficient. It's plausible that he sees trouble ahead for Trump, and prefers not being tethered to him.
2018 has started off with a bang. Manafort is suing Mueller and Trump is seeking a cease and desist against Bannon.
cramer said:
2018 has started off with a bang. Manafort is suing Mueller and Trump is seeking a cease and desist against Bannon.
I had Manafort-Mueller in my brackets, but Trump-Bannon came out of the blue.
nohero said:
Bannon is financially self-sufficient. It's plausible that he sees trouble ahead for Trump, and prefers not being tethered to him.
Possible, but the quotes in the book were said a long time ago. They are just coming to light now.
I'm sad to say that I don't see Trump resigning. I agree he was surprised to win, but having won, I think he feels he deserves the job. It's extremely difficult to be impeached or prosecuted, so there's no particular reason to bow out. Even if impeachment processes begin, you hire lawyers - he's used to that. And as president, he gets to be in the press every hour, every day, and that would be difficult for him to walk away from.
As to Bannon's motives, I'd like to think it's just human nature. Being close to Trump for months must have been exhausting, seeing firsthand how unqualified he is for the job and probably being treated pretty shabbily. It's human nature to be able to vent to someone, wow, this guy really is stupid ...
Impeachment will be difficult, if not impossible. However, it is clear he is losing his mind from dementia. When he craps himself during his reading of the 2019 State of the Union address, it will be difficult for even the most loyal of senators to deny there is a problem.
I've been waiting for the Republicans' self-preservation instincts to kick in but it's taking way too long.
Formerlyjerseyjack said:
Impeachment will be difficult, if not impossible. However, it is clear he is losing his mind from dementia. When he craps himself during his reading of the 2019 State of the Union address, it will be difficult for even the most loyal of senators to deny there is a problem.
imagine if this were a Dem president? It's all the R's would be talking about.
yahooyahoo said:
I've been waiting for the Republicans' self-preservation instincts to kick in but it's taking way tool long.
Formerlyjerseyjack said:
Impeachment will be difficult, if not impossible. However, it is clear he is losing his mind from dementia. When he craps himself during his reading of the 2019 State of the Union address, it will be difficult for even the most loyal of senators to deny there is a problem.
Cops want to shut down counter-protest group b/c there's nothing left to protest.