A passerby with a cellphone video'd a cop committing murder

I saw some of the camera phone footage this morning from both shootings. It's horrifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPOKZNLhOj8

kibbegirl said:
Yes, more good cops do need to speak up but they don't. It's like they're brainwashed not to snitch, which is ironic because cops plead with communities all the time about snitching on known drug dealers and other criminals. How do they expect communities to snitch when they won't themselves? And ironically, each group suffers the same fate for snitching: bullying, beatings, or much, much worse.

What good cops? A fantasy. In just about every incident like this cops stick together protecting their brother murderer in blue.

That nice good cop who is so sympathetic when you report a crime is the same cop that will protect and lie for the cop that has unjustly killed or brutalized someone.

Maybe we could have real and serious Congressional hearings on the issue of police extra-judicial killings of black citizens instead of the politicized Congressional hearings that have been a daily farce going on for years?  

Right, I know.  Unpossible.

Change needs to happen.  We cannot keep blaming the victim when they are shot by a police officer who felt nervous.  Either there were no police procedures in place on how to handle a person who has a concealed carry license, the police procedures in place are inadequate or the officer did not follow the procedures.  In any case, responsibility needs to be taken or more innocent people will be killed.

Terrible, the Baton Rouge killing. Glad the Justce Department is on the scene. Terrible.

Part of the problem is the lack of consequences, and that needs to be seriously addressed. Why is the use of deadly force "justified" more often when it's a black perpetrator or suspect? And is that even the case, statistically? 

has anyone seen the video of Philandro Castile's girlfriend being interviewed after the police released her?

It heart breaking and incensing.   I fear for my kids, who are grown men, who have to live in this world under these random acts of violence perpetrated by those that are sworn to protect us.

mjh said:

Maybe we could have real and serious Congressional hearings on the issue of police extra-judicial killings of black citizens instead of the politicized Congressional hearings that have been a daily farce going on for years?  

Right, I know.  Unpossible.

Democratic Committee Member from NJ, Bonnie Watson-Coleman, asked Comey about this at the hearing. He said the FBI is investigating the case in Baton Rouge.

LOST said:

mjh said:

Maybe we could have real and serious Congressional hearings on the issue of police extra-judicial killings of black citizens instead of the politicized Congressional hearings that have been a daily farce going on for years?  

Right, I know.  Unpossible.

Democratic Committee Member from NJ, Bonnie Watson-Coleman, asked Comey about this at the hearing. He said the FBI is investigating the case in Baton Rouge.

Yes, the Police Chief invited this investigation.  Smart move.

I'm a cynic and work hard not to be cynical. I do believe there are GREAT officers out there of all hues and faiths. 

I don't believe police departments are winking and nodding for officers to kill people of color. I think some departments need bodies and perhaps hire officers who are too nervous and afraid for the job. Training doesn't give you mettle but it does give you the required skills to take down someone without killing. Ironically, nervousness and fearfulness only seem to come into play when dealing with POC. Many white men/women are somehow subdued, Tased and cuffed with no problem. 

The man shot while his girlfriend narrated the events was more than I could take this morning. Where is the NRA to defend HIS RIGHT to carry a weapon? 

Seven dead in seven days.

hoops said:

these police murders have to stop.


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/6/1545584/-Harrowing-video-shows-black-man-shot-by-Baton-Rouge-police

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/07/07/1545902/-The-terrorists-we-face-wear-badges

Alton Sterling, Philandro Castile, and 5 more already this month.   

Seriously

kibbegirl said:



The man shot while his girlfriend narrated the events was more than I could take this morning. Where is the NRA to defend HIS RIGHT to carry a weapon? 

debby said:

Seriously

kibbegirl said:



The man shot while his girlfriend narrated the events was more than I could take this morning. Where is the NRA to defend HIS RIGHT to carry a weapon? 

Also, could he have lived if he had received medical intervention? This has been on my mind all day too.

At the end of the video you hear the girlfriend cry out (as she's handcuffed in the back of the car),  and her 4 y.o.  says, "It's okay...I'm here with you."

Then I cried.

Maybe we'd have less of these killings if we dealt at the same time with the over policing of poor and minority communities.  

eliz said:

Maybe we'd have less of these killings if we dealt at the same time with the over policing of poor and minority communities.  

Agree. I find it's the same here in SO/MW. We're small and yet, we don't know our police force. The two individuals I know kinda/sorta are FABULOUS people and in my mind are what officers should be. The others who've I had chit chat with while dog walking are also very nice.

Not sure if it's do-able in SO/MW, but in the city it could be possible. There has to be a way for officers who wish to live in the city to do so at a discount. Offering this allows officers the ability to know their neighbors. So many of them live far away in homogenous areas. Many of them look at gays, trans and POC as "less than" and something to be feared.

A few years ago, my MIL rented one of her apartments to a female officer who was stationed in Brooklyn. She offered her discounted rent. She lived there for about 3 years before transferring to another precinct. 

Officers who wish to live outside of the city are welcome to do so but for those who want to stay, there should be a rent incentive program for them. 

Everyone realizes that policing is a dangerous profession but there never seems to be a lack of candidates for the job.Should police departments expect their officers to live in the town where they choose to work? Would a police officer be less likely to pull a trigger on someone he or she sees regularly at the grocery store? Big city police departments pay well but most of the officers  live in the nearby suburbs. That is a huge problem. I would also extend this idea of "where u live is where u work" to teachers and other public employees. It just makes so much sense tho it will probably never happen.

Why should a police officer working Midtown South have to live in Manhattan (or better yet, near Midtown South) when he'd like a patch of lawn for his kids to play on?  Same for a teacher.  Good luck filling that job.

Believe me. There would still be plenty of takers for the job. Problem is that "patch of grass" sometimes comes with an isolation from all of those who don't look like u.

annielou said:

Everyone realizes that policing is a dangerous profession but there never seems to be a lack of candidates for the job.Should police departments expect their officers to live in the town where they choose to work? Would a police officer be less likely to pull a trigger on someone he or she sees regularly at the grocery store? Big city police departments pay well but most of the officers  live in the nearby suburbs. That is a huge problem. I would also extend this idea of "where u live is where u work" to teachers and other public employees. It just makes so much sense tho it will probably never happen.

Public employees in NYC are required to live in the five boroughs EXCEPT teachers and uniformed members of the fire dept, police dept, and sanitation dept. I think employees of libraries and CUNY and maybe a few other agencies are also exempt.

NYC employees, other than uniformed employees, as a general rule, need only live in the City for two years.  Thereafter, they may reside in a number of nearby NY counties.