What is this piece from my car

I had a large plastic protection thingy under my car honda accord ex 2000 not sure of the real name people call it different things. I brought my car into Honda for an oil change now its gone. It was an extra piece it covered the whole front belly of my car.kinda like the smart belly shield on vans or trucks also race cars have them. Honda is really trying to make us feel like idiots because we don't know what the name of the extended belly pan for my car. Since they removed it the car makes more noise and the gas mileage has dropped. Honda says they don't know what it is this car doesn't originally come with it. I say regardless of whether or not it came with it or it was purchased and installed doesn't make a difference the fact is I want them to replace it. But unless I can actually get the official name they will play dumb. The car was purchase with it. Any information is appreciated.

Oil pan shield?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=oil%20pan%20shield

Engine splash shield? I think this is likely it.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?searchType=global&N=0&Ntt=2000+Honda+Accord+Engine+Splash+Shield

Air dam

terminator3 said:
Air dam

Why would they remove an air dam to do an oil change?

jimmurphy said:
Engine splash shield? I think this is likely it.
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?searchType=global&N=0&Ntt=2000+Honda+Accord+Engine+Splash+Shield

It's similar to the splash shield it was hooked on with the splash shield but is larger than the original one. It is large enough to drag down to the ground when 1 clip broke. I had to tie 1 sude up. But when I told them that they said it is impossible because honda doesn't make that. It was most likely from another car or an aftermarket part made to fit this car. They claim nothing bigger could fit but it's been on this car since my mother bought it in 2002

Air dam? It was large enough to cover the filter to some degree I honestly believe they took it on purpose the piece isn't cheap. Not sure if it's an aor dam

jimmurphy said:

terminator3 said:
Air dam

Why would they remove an air dam to do an oil change?

jimmurphy said:
Oil pan shield?
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=oil%20pan%20shield

Maybe oil pan shield it was kinda heavy and large plastic

jimmurphy said:
Oil pan shield?
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=oil%20pan%20shield

Similar to this picture

Can you describe the measured size? Was it totally flat or located more under the front end down below the hood latch?

Sorry pic doesn't want to upload its like an extended splash shield a few feet long was held up by screws or clips looks similar to this its usually put on racing cars

ctrzaska said:
Can you describe the measured size? Was it totally flat or located more under the front end down below the hood latch?

It was large enough to cover the entire front end about 3 ish ft pretty heavy hooks up with the engine shield from front bumper to almost back doors. Its pretty heavy to covered the whole front half of the car and flat hard rubberized. Without out it I feel a big difference and the car is noisier the pic isn't exact I couldn't find any pics of what it was for any honda

Honda puts all kinds of splash guards , undercarriage shields , and airdams on their cars. The size and shape can vary even within the same model line up as some trim levels have larger more powerful engines or racing suspension setups. The guards/airdams/shields can vary region to region https://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com at one point had exploded views of the various systems of many honda models along with part numbers.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgry2=2000&catcgry3=4DR+EXV6&catcgry4=KA4AT&catcgry5=FRONT+FENDERS part number 5 maybe?

Listen to Freeway - definitely the expert here

Another thing I forgot to add, dealers sometimes install aftermarket parts as an upcharge.

I doubt removing a splash guard would cause a noticeable change in MPG. Noise level possibly, but on a 15-16 year old car I'd go with a plugged cat. converter or failing o2 sensor(s) (there is sometimes one pre-cat) over a likely aftermarket splash guard.

Which dealer was this if you dont mind me asking.

Freeway said:
Another thing I forgot to add, dealers sometimes install aftermarket parts as an upcharge.
I doubt removing a splash guard would cause a noticeable change in MPG. Noise level possibly, but on a 15-16 year old car I'd go with a plugged cat. converter or failing o2 sensor(s) (there is sometimes one pre-cat) over a likely aftermarket splash guard.
Which dealer was this if you dont mind me asking.

It was Planet Honda. They are also the ones that did the oil change and since then I hear more noise. Including any debris that fly up and hit metal. I am honestly surprised they did this. I wasn't hearing any of this till they did the oil change. They also did multi-point inspection and aside from tires and front motor mount being yellow everything else passed. They apparently did something wrong. The gas was because the gas station attendant didn't screw the cap on correctly.

They didn't think you were Erma Franklin, did they?

DaveSchmidt said:
They didn't think you were Erma Franklin, did they?

Lmao no I don't think so. If so I wouldn't have been treated this way I'm sure. Not in 2015 atleast

Also when they lifted up the car i saw on the bottom what looked like the oil filter. I could be wrong on what it is. I have never seen it uncovered before. The belly shield covered it all. I don't see any oil pan either then again Im not a mechanic. Not sure if it's supposed to be like it is. Never the less I hear things that I wasn't hearing and do notice a difference when driving. I am so mad at Planet Honda.

My daughter's '12 Toyota Prius has this; it lost one side's screws and had flapped around enough to freak her out and pull over, thinking she might have a flat. A state trooper duct-taped it for her. While we have it in Jersey to get it inspected, our Harrison mechanic is calling around to get replacement parts for a side that's missing now. He says she must be scraping a driveway entrance to have this keep happening.

From a CarTalk discussion: (as an aside - I miss them but hearing reruns from 2000 just isn't cutting it!) A splash shield is important on any car, in order to protect wire connectors and electronic components from water damage. On a Prius, with its incredibly complex electronics, an intact splash shield is even more important....these splash shields can also affect airflow through the radiator and over the engine. And they can affect turbulance under the car, which can manifest itself as reduced highway mileage. My guess is that on the Prius this underbody turbulance is a consideration.

The gas cap might be the key to your mpg issue. That can hurt your mileage if sensors in the car read it as missing or not fully tightened. On a 2000 you might even throw a fault and trigger the check engine light.

musicmz said:
My daughter's '12 Toyota Prius has this; it lost one side's screws and had flapped around enough to freak her out and pull over, thinking she might have a flat. A state trooper duct-taped it for her. While we have it in Jersey to get it inspected, our Harrison mechanic is calling around to get replacement parts for a side that's missing now. He says she must be scraping a driveway entrance to have this keep happening.
From a CarTalk discussion: (as an aside - I miss them but hearing reruns from 2000 just isn't cutting it!) A splash shield is important on any car, in order to protect wire connectors and electronic components from water damage. On a Prius, with its incredibly complex electronics, an intact splash shield is even more important....these splash shields can also affect airflow through the radiator and over the engine. And they can affect turbulance under the car, which can manifest itself as reduced highway mileage. My guess is that on the Prius this underbody turbulance is a consideration.

Exactly I ended up calling Honda corporate office. They are very nice hopefully I will get it fixed. I am not a mechanic but I know the damage this can cause. A nut from a tree shouldn't sound like a gong against the bottom of a car. And all the stuff that must be getting up there . I'm sure it's .

1. Freeway said:

The gas was because the gas station attendant didn't screw the cap on correctly. I have to tell each attendant and then check myself to turn it till it clicks 3 times. The car was in good condition and my mother took care of the car while she had it. She got it checked out before giving me the car. Plus aside from 2 issues honda found which were tires and front motor mount being yellow not red no problems with the car the car is noisier and everything hitting up there will cause damage to the vehicle. When I brought it in the belly was covered now it's not. I honestly just want for them to fix it. Belly shield, smart guard, splash guard or big rubberized protection thingy. I'm assuming all are the same. But I wanted to be sure of what to call it so I don't sound like an idiot lol. The service manager and one mechanic said it wasn't possible for this to be on my car they actually said they don't know what I am talking about. The car was purchased with it from honda. From my mother in 2002 certified pre-owned. I believe it was an add on from the first owner. It was bigger than the original splash guard covered the front 1/2 of the car big enough to drag down to the ground when 1 clip broke. I'm positive it was a honda accessory. I do believe it also acts as a oil pan not sure though because until now I never actually saw under the belly shield. I hate sure type. Lol

I assure you it doesn't act as the oil pan. There were 2 or 3 engine choices for the accord that year and all of them have metal oilpans bolted to the bottom of the block during assembly. It likely covers the pan. You might not see the oil filter because , depending on engine, the filter is typically mounted under the intake manifold on the rear of the block or in that area.

Freeway said:
I assure you it doesn't act as the oil pan. There were 2 or 3 engine choices for the accord that year and all of them have metal oilpans bolted to the bottom of the block during assembly. It likely covers the pan. You might not see the oil filter because , depending on engine, the filter is typically mounted under the intake manifold on the rear of the block or in that area.

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Freeway said:
I assure you it doesn't act as the oil pan. There were 2 or 3 engine choices for the accord that year and all of them have metal oilpans bolted to the bottom of the block during assembly. It likely covers the pan. You might not see the oil filter because , depending on engine, the filter is typically mounted under the intake manifold on the rear of the block or in that area.

I'm not sure what i saw then it kinda looks like an oil filter I have never seen under it b4. I know nothing about cars not sure where the block is it was about the center of the front kinda in between the two front tires. It was round. Never saw it before they took the piece off. This is why I don't know what the piece is officially called it had to be an add on but it made a big difference.

Does anyone have any idea what the name of the extended belly pan is. I'm a nube to car parts lol.

Are you talking about a different part now

Freeway said:
I assure you it doesn't act as the oil pan. There were 2 or 3 engine choices for the accord that year and all of them have metal oilpans bolted to the bottom of the block during assembly. It likely covers the pan. You might not see the oil filter because , depending on engine, the filter is typically mounted under the intake manifold on the rear of the block or in that area.

TomR

Honda mounted the oil filters on single and dual cam engines anywhere from under the exhaust manifold on the front of the engine, right next to the oil pan on the front or back bottom of the engine block, or the rear of the engine block under the intake manifold. Sometimes extensions or cartridges were used to mount the filter.

Also the engines are built on assembly lines by humans and robots. The placement of the filter is determined by some engineers who will never have to burn their hands on a hot exhaust manifold or contort their arm a way it doesn't go to reach the filter.

On the accords from that generation it can be in any of the above mentioned locations based on engine type and size. Haven't worked on one in ages and the last one I did tune had a 2.2 Liter dual cam engine from a prelude of the same generation swapped in.

You do realize that all of that probably just sounded like Swahili to yoli1, yes?