Unsightly, noisy Basketball Hoop archived
Apr 26, 2011 at 9:11am
if it is their land, no complaint, if public, yes, could speak to them, nicely.
Oldstone: wanna picket w/me?
JTAunt: I thought of that but I like to keep my car in my driveway.
JTAunt: I thought of that but I like to keep my car in my driveway.
You could try this:
"§ 239-28
Permit required.
No person shall encumber or obstruct or shall authorize the encumbering or obstructing of any street, highway, alley or other public place in the Township by erecting, depositing, placing or leaving or suffering to be erected, deposited, placed or left therein any building materials, stone, dirt, refuse, ashes, vehicles, structures, obstructions or any articles, materials or things whatsoever without having first obtained the written permission of the Township Clerk."
Maplewood Municipal code.
"§ 239-28
Permit required.
No person shall encumber or obstruct or shall authorize the encumbering or obstructing of any street, highway, alley or other public place in the Township by erecting, depositing, placing or leaving or suffering to be erected, deposited, placed or left therein any building materials, stone, dirt, refuse, ashes, vehicles, structures, obstructions or any articles, materials or things whatsoever without having first obtained the written permission of the Township Clerk."
Maplewood Municipal code.
Is it in the street? Or on the little strip of land between the sidewalk and the curb?
Either way I'd think one would need a permit for it. And if it was granted, then there doesn't seem to be much recourse. How often are thewse kids playing that it's such a nuisance?
Either way I'd think one would need a permit for it. And if it was granted, then there doesn't seem to be much recourse. How often are thewse kids playing that it's such a nuisance?
It sits on the parkway which I believe is what you call the little strip between the sidewalk and the curb. But it also overhangs the street.
Frankly, it's not safe. One of these days it's going to topple over on someone.
Thanx Chitojr!
Frankly, it's not safe. One of these days it's going to topple over on someone.
Thanx Chitojr!
I thought BabFab was talking about the neighbors accross the street from my house...hoop attached to a light pole. It is particularly bad on weekends when what I'm guessing relatives from NY visit--LATE.
For awhile random teens passing by would stop by late at night to spontaneously play some hoops. I asked them once to calm it down and they did! better neighbors than my real ones!
Now that I know it is against an ordinance I may turn them in if it interferes with my peace much this summer.
For awhile random teens passing by would stop by late at night to spontaneously play some hoops. I asked them once to calm it down and they did! better neighbors than my real ones!
Now that I know it is against an ordinance I may turn them in if it interferes with my peace much this summer.
In my town it is illegal to put it in the street as that is not their property..but the law is never enforced.
It's not in the street, it is on the verge. It is not right in front of your porch, it is about 150 feet away, across the street and a bit down the block. The kids are middleschool and younger, and really I don't see your problem with it. I am sorry it bothers you, but in this world of troubles is children playing in plain view of your house really that high on the list?
And no, as long as it is not in the street it is legal.
And no, as long as it is not in the street it is legal.
We have one on our street (thankfully down the block from me) which blocks a fire hydrant! Nothing is done. I figure if the neighbors directly surrounding it don't complain, how can I?
When I was looking to buy a house, I did not even look at a very nice one because the neighbors had one of those hoop structures in the street. I knew it was trouble (and noise) and no house is worth that!
When I was looking to buy a house, I did not even look at a very nice one because the neighbors had one of those hoop structures in the street. I knew it was trouble (and noise) and no house is worth that!
Wow, apparently Maplewood isn't so much a family oriented town anymore...
Max: It's in full view of my porch and very noisy, especially in the evenings when it would be nice to have a quite sit on the porch.
Why should I have to look and hear it when the owners' don't?
I spend a lot of time and energy being a good neighbor. I almost always talk to my neighbors about any plans we have for significantly modifying the yard.
For example, I wanted to build a little shed for my garbage cans to protect them from the raccoons and so that I wouldn't have to look at them.
I mentioned it o my next door neighbor and she asked me not to build it on the fence which is next to her kids' play area.
So, I didn't build it and I didn't move the garbage cans. I went out of my way to talk to her, before, doing anything - on my own property, no less, and I took her preferences into account.
Yes, it is high on my list. With the recent craziness of my life, it's refreshingly ordinary.
Soma: kid-friendly is important. kid-promoting over the comfort of others is unfair. The other kids on the block have hoops in their own
back yards.
Why should I have to look and hear it when the owners' don't?
I spend a lot of time and energy being a good neighbor. I almost always talk to my neighbors about any plans we have for significantly modifying the yard.
For example, I wanted to build a little shed for my garbage cans to protect them from the raccoons and so that I wouldn't have to look at them.
I mentioned it o my next door neighbor and she asked me not to build it on the fence which is next to her kids' play area.
So, I didn't build it and I didn't move the garbage cans. I went out of my way to talk to her, before, doing anything - on my own property, no less, and I took her preferences into account.
Yes, it is high on my list. With the recent craziness of my life, it's refreshingly ordinary.
Soma: kid-friendly is important. kid-promoting over the comfort of others is unfair. The other kids on the block have hoops in their own
back yards.
I would guess that if it was on the verge, that would be considered a "public place", and is illegal. You would not be able to build a fence or flagpole on the verge.
Thanx, I will take the above cited ordinance to Town Hall and see where that gets me.
Max,
It's not the middle schoolers that are the problem (at least for me) it is the ADULTS or almost adults that come out at night and park with headlights shining on the street in front of the hoop and proceed to yell expletives while they play. The homeowners are lovely people (as is BabFab). It's just an awkward situation.
It's not the middle schoolers that are the problem (at least for me) it is the ADULTS or almost adults that come out at night and park with headlights shining on the street in front of the hoop and proceed to yell expletives while they play. The homeowners are lovely people (as is BabFab). It's just an awkward situation.
Benches? Let me guess, no one saw anyone on the street with Benches?
Posted By: zippyMax,
It's not the middle schoolers that are the problem (at least for me) it is the ADULTS or almost adults that come out at night and park with headlights shining on the street in front of the hoop and proceed to yell expletives while they play. The homeowners are lovely people (as is BabFab). It's just an awkward situation.
call the police. noise at night playing in the street could be in violation of a town law.
they can not create a public nuisance period. If the cars are running state law requires they be
shut off after 3 minutes. The real problem is this town is now occupied by some who
do whatever they want regardless of of people's feeling, quality of life etc.
Posted By: krnlI thought BabFab was talking about the neighbors accross the street from my house...hoop attached to a light pole.
Now I would think THAT would be a violation... attaching the hoop to a power pole!!!!
Seriously? If people playing basketball in the street is the least of your worries than consider yourself lucky. Sounds like you need to move to a shack in the middle of the woods but maybe the crickets will be too loud there.
IggleCane - get up on the wrong side of the bed? people have the right to some peace and quiet in their home.
My general feeling is that if adults are playing there at night with headlights facing the hoop this has to stop. kids at 4-8ish PM is one thing but past that seems excessive.
Posted By: IggleCaneSeriously? If people playing basketball in the street is the least of your worries than consider yourself lucky. Sounds like you need to move to a shack in the middle of the woods but maybe the crickets will be too loud there.
I kind of get this impression about a lot of these neighbor complaints, having chickens, or clothes lines. Its SO/ MW. Youre not the country, nor the city. You cant have the best restaurants nor a silent night. You get the middle.
Where I grew up in central Jersey we had plenty of land and couldnt hear a soul. The only thing we heard was my mom ringing that bell to call us in for dinner. You cant have that here.
When I lived in the city I was next door to one of the best Italian places Id ever been to . You cant have that here (but youre close)
There are some kids playing basketball. Thats a pretty good compromise.
Posted By: zippyMax,
It's not the middle schoolers that are the problem (at least for me) it is the ADULTS or almost adults that come out at night and park with headlights shining on the street in front of the hoop and proceed to yell expletives while they play. The homeowners are lovely people (as is BabFab). It's just an awkward situation.
Middleschoolers playing bb after school in the street a problem? Notsomuch. But the "ADULTS or almost adults that come out at night and park with headlights shining on the street in front of the hoop and proceed to yell expletives while they play" is something I'd be going ballistic over, particularly in the summer months with my windows open on a cool night. We have playgrounds for this. They should use them or rent out a gym.
Posted By: ctrzaskaBut the "ADULTS or almost adults that come out at night and park with headlights shining on the street in front of the hoop and proceed to yell expletives while they play" is something I'd be going ballistic over,
I would call the cops. But, that is not the situation that the OP is referring to, that is one that was referred to by another poster. I was responding to the OP.
ctrzaska,
where is there a playground in Maplewood or South Orange with a BB court with night lights that actually come on at night? Also, where can someone rent a gym in the area?
Sincerely asking.
where is there a playground in Maplewood or South Orange with a BB court with night lights that actually come on at night? Also, where can someone rent a gym in the area?
Sincerely asking.
I don't think the problem so much is because the kids/adults are playing basketball. It's that it's done on the public street and negatively impacts the neighbors. Every house (except an apartment building) has a driveway and a back yard. The basketball hoops should be in the back of the house where these people can play on their own property (which is how it used to be before the basketball hoops became portable). Yes, it will still make noise, but won't impact as many other people (and disrupt the traffic on the streets -- I have had many occasions where kids were taking up the whole street and wouldn't move so I could drive past).
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It's ugly and creates a noisy, instant playground right across from my front porch.
1) They have a big back yard with a high fence which could accommodate a small BB area
2) I have to look at the ugly hoop and watch their kids play in the street but because of their fencing and layout of their house and yard, they
never have to see it.
3) If I had wanted to live across the street from a playground, I would have bought a house near one
4) Random kids play pickup games and they are often noisy late into the evening
5) We live in a very child-positive neighborhood so there is always kid play noise but that is in people's own yards so it's appropriate
I've asked them to remove it but so far no luck.
I spoke to the folks @ Town Hall and there doesn't seem to be a zoning issue
Is this in violation of some MWD rule, statute, law or anything that I could use to compel them to take it down?
Yes, I'm a crabby old lady, don't waste your MOL time reminding me.
Can anyone help me with this?