very good background on the guy from On The Media
And I have to walk back an earlier post on another thread. I recently posted that among all current R pols, jdv scared me the most because I thought he was very intelligent and knew exactly what he was doing or saying, even though he didn't believe it.
I'm less scared now because he appears to be politically inept in many ways, undercutting (and hopefully, preventing) his grab for power. And even if he weathers the current storm, this ineptness could continue to undercut any attempt to wield power. We shall see, I guess.
However, if he gains more power, as vp, I will continue to be scared - just maybe a bit less than before.
a very telling interview with the federalist. extreme authoritarian tendencies in this guy.
(I couldn't find the video on youtube so here's a reddit link)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1edlgmo/jd_vance_endorses_project_2025_we_really_need_to/
It's not every candidate who comes with headlines like this -
GoSlugs said:
He's a weird guy.
I love the "weird" theme. They should add "creepy."
Remember when people had a problem with a guy who couldn’t spell potatoes? Now we have Mr Mengele to contend with…a converted Catholic…
nohero said:
It's not every candidate who comes with headlines like this -
J.D. Vance Has a Burnt Monkey Testicle Problem
OK, this one is going to resonate on my FB page.
Morganna said:
OK, this one is going to resonate on my FB page.
I read the story behind it which is horrifying.
Is this some kind of a record for how quickly one can become a punch line?
GoSlugs said:
I read the story behind it which is horrifying.
I don't have a subscription so I can't read it. I'll research it.
Anti- vivisection was my main focus as an animal advocate. My favorite success was getting an experiment on cats at Cornell shut down. It was government funded for 12 years. A couple of us had to be willing to get arrested and work for months before to get a turnout of 2,000 people, press, working with the police and months of collecting signatures in front of Cornell after, but we did it. First time in NYC where we were told New Yorkers can't organize and work together. We showed them.
The toughest part of getting the public educated about such issues is the unwillingness to hear the details. Hunter college let me show videos of certain experiments. Now with internet access it is at least easier to share but hard to get the audience.
Republican Matt Gaetz has been outspoken about some government funded experiments on animals which he has called " a ghoulish and horrifying waste of money." He supports FACT (Federal Accountability in Chemical Testing Act)
Bit of a thread drift.
nohero said:
Is this some kind of a record for how quickly one can become a punch line?
these last two weeks have been an extraordinary couple of years…
Bit of thread drift, but I gave up on Twitter shortly after Musk took it over. I wasn't making a statement. It just got boring and creepy, a lot of the people I followed moved on, and I lost interest over a couple of months. Has it gotten interesting again? Is Twitter where the good snark is taking place?
kthnry said:
Bit of thread drift, but I gave up on Twitter shortly after Musk took it over. I wasn't making a statement. It just got boring and creepy, a lot of the people I followed moved on, and I lost interest over a couple of months. Has it gotten interesting again? Is Twitter where the good snark is taking place?
There is still some good snark on the Twitter (I got the cat picture from a professor who is an insightful analyst of Trump's rhetoric), although it's also true that lots of people (who are worth reading) moved on.
Although sometimes, there are mercurial bans like the removal of photographer Pete Souza recently, because of an actual photo of Trump he retweeted.
drummerboy said:
As target rich as JDV is, I thought he deserved his own thread.
Things I learned recently:
He did not have sex with a couch. As far as we know.
He seems to be interested in the interactions between dolphins and women.
He did not grow up as a hillbilly in Appalachia, but rather as a pretty comfortable citizen of a Cincinnati suburb.
He once thought he was gay, but now maybe not.
He's insulted two of the more popular women in the world.
Today is Saturday. I learned all of this since Thursday.
Say what you want about JD (he’s a crazy right wing misogynist) but Middletown is not really a suburb of Cincinnati. It’s near Cincinnati but it’s a different world. Middletown is a declining factory town (steel, paper, etc) and the downtown is a mess.
yahooyahoo said:
Say what you want about JD (he’s a crazy right wing misogynist) but Middletown is not really a suburb of Cincinnati. It’s near Cincinnati but it’s a different world. Middletown is a declining factory town (steel, paper, etc) and the downtown is a mess.
You need to work on your character assassination skills.
terp said:
Yep. That's the new talking point and the corporate press has received the songbook.
when I see a "supercut" like this in which many of the clips are just news anchors saying the word "weird" I wonder how many of them are simply reporting on the Harris campaign talking point.
That's because I'm skeptical about the narrative.
ml1 said:
when I see a "supercut" like this in which many of the clips are just news anchors saying the word "weird" I wonder how many of them are simply reporting on the Harris campaign talking point.
That's because I'm skeptical about the narrative.
I think it's as simple as finally finding an appropriate word to encapsulate the obsessions and fantasies that occupy the MAGA mind ("birtherism", "Michele is a man", "replacement theory", etc.)
ml1 said:
when I see a "supercut" like this in which many of the clips are just news anchors saying the word "weird" I wonder how many of them are simply reporting on the Harris campaign talking point.
Also, it’s not exactly a nonce word.
nohero said:
ml1 said:
when I see a "supercut" like this in which many of the clips are just news anchors saying the word "weird" I wonder how many of them are simply reporting on the Harris campaign talking point.
That's because I'm skeptical about the narrative.
I think it's as simple as finally finding an appropriate word to encapsulate the obsessions and fantasies that occupy the MAGA mind ("birtherism", "Michele is a man", "replacement theory", etc.)
it also dovetails nicely with the right wing obsession with other people's sex lives, as well as their freakout over drag queens and trans people.
it reminds people how much personal freedom is at stake due to the strange and weird obsessions of the MAGAs
From CNN
Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance has a history of making disparaging remarks toward people without children, a CNN KFile review of his comments shows, including fundraising off his now-infamous “childless cat lady” remarks in a series of emails that called Democratic leaders “childless sociopaths” who “don’t have a direct stake in this country.”
In November 2020, Vance said on a conservative podcast that childless Americans, especially those in the country’s “leadership class,” were “more sociopathic” than those with children and made the country “less mentally stable.” Vance added that the “most deranged” and “most psychotic” commentators on Twitter – now known as X - were typically childless.
JDV thinks that Alex Jones is a more honest source than Rachel Maddow.
https://www.propublica.org/article/jd-vance-alex-jones-leonard-leo-teneo-maddow-video
“If you listen to Rachel Maddow every night, the basic worldview that you have is that MAGA grandmas who have family dinners on Sunday and bake apple pies for their family are about to start a violent insurrection against this country,” Vance said. “But if you listen to Alex Jones every day, you would believe that a transnational financial elite controls things in our country, that they hate our society, and oh, by the way, a lot of them are probably sex perverts too.”
Vance went on, “Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, that’s actually a hell of a lot more true than Rachel Maddow’s view of society.”
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As target rich as JDV is, I thought he deserved his own thread.
Things I learned recently:
He did not have sex with a couch. As far as we know.
He seems to be interested in the interactions between dolphins and women.
He did not grow up as a hillbilly in Appalachia, but rather as a pretty comfortable citizen of a Cincinnati suburb.
He once thought he was gay, but now maybe not.
He's insulted two of the more popular women in the world.
Today is Saturday. I learned all of this since Thursday.