Deafening silence on the new $20

A terrific choice. Much more than "The Underground Railroad Lady". Can't wait to see the design. 

A woman of incredible physical and mental courage, deep faith, and a seemingly limitless well of caring for her fellow man. A real life American action hero to boot. 


ctrzaska said:

Martha Raye?

You must admit, there really was no other choice.


It's about time. ETA - Harriet Tubman is an excellent choice!

Jackson_Fusion said:
ctrzaska said:

Martha Raye?

You must admit, there really was no other choice.

Well, yes. 

Though Amelia Earhart wouldn't have been a bad idea.  Another badass.


I was disappointed to hear that they were leaving Jackson on the back.  Someone needs to sweep his genocidal slave holding butt into the dustbin of history where it belongs. 


ctrzaska said:
Jackson_Fusion said:
ctrzaska said:

Martha Raye?

You must admit, there really was no other choice.

Well, yes. 

Though Amelia Earhart wouldn't have been a bad idea.  Another badass.

A remarkable person, but we tend to put warriors of one sort or another on our currency. Ike, Jefferson, Hamilton, Lincoln, Franklin, FDR, Grant, and yes for 1812 Jackson. Rebels, generals, wartime leaders, all connected in some way to a fight for freedom. 

Earhart may have suffered the slings and arrows of sexism from some corners, but she was celebrated in her time as a celebrity as well.

Tubman by anyone's estimation risked her life for others, and she did it armed. For good reason. 


By 2020 no one is going to be using paper money anyway.


bramzzoinks said:

By 2020 no one is going to be using paper money anyway.

I'm sure you're right. Just like we no longer use quarters given the cool dollar coins.


I often go weeks with using no cash. 


Cash will exist for a very long time. 

How else would one responsibly engage in an illegal transaction?


bramzzoinks said:

By 2020 no one is going to be using paper money anyway.

No one using cash in four years? Care for a wager?


I am very proud that Harriet Tubman will be circulated around the world.  I say this with nothing but great respect, but that lady was bad a$$.  Escaping enslavement.  Going back into hostile territory to free family and friends.  Taking freed slaves up to Canada when the fugitive slave law was passed.  A spy and nurse for the union!!  I'm just back from a civil rights tour of the deep south:  Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi...in Jackson nonetheless. The fight for civil rights is far from over and I'm damn proud that people everywhere, especially down there, will see the face of heroism and strength in a woman that so profoundly defines us as a country seeking a more perfect union.


Jackson_Fusion said:


ctrzaska said:
Jackson_Fusion said:
ctrzaska said:

Martha Raye?

You must admit, there really was no other choice.

Well, yes. 

Though Amelia Earhart wouldn't have been a bad idea.  Another badass.

A remarkable person, but we tend to put warriors of one sort or another on our currency. Ike, Jefferson, Hamilton, Lincoln, Franklin, FDR, Grant, and yes for 1812 Jackson. Rebels, generals, wartime leaders, all connected in some way to a fight for freedom. 

Earhart may have suffered the slings and arrows of sexism from some corners, but she was celebrated in her time as a celebrity as well.

Tubman by anyone's estimation risked her life for others, and she did it armed. For good reason. 

Earhart isn't in Tubman's league, that I know-- ridiculous accomplishments notwithstanding, she was more the Hollywood version of America's groundbreaking and adventurous spirit.  As to Tubman, I would have caved near instantaneously under a hundredth (thousandth?) of what she suffered, let alone what she managed to accomplish.  She was one remarkable woman.

(Random aside:  Though my comment about Martha Raye was in jest-- she was on the edge of my brain (of all random people), having just read of her unbelievable escapades in Vietnam.  If you're not aware, here's the snopes link, though other stories abound  http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/martharaye.asp )


dave23 said:
bramzzoinks said:

By 2020 no one is going to be using paper money anyway.

No one using cash in four years? Care for a wager?

I'll wager my bitcoin.  That ok?


I think Dave Ramsey and his envelopes will make sure that many people keep using cash.

Seriously though, I used to work at a business where many of the employees were poor.  Very few had bank accounts, it was common for them to cash their checks and just keep all their money on them, or hid it at home.  For things that they couldn't pay cash for (car insurance for example) they would  buy a money order.  While I can also go days, even a week or more, without using cash, I also understand that there are many people in this country who still use cash for almost all of their transactions. 


ctrzaska said:
dave23 said:
bramzzoinks said:

By 2020 no one is going to be using paper money anyway.

No one using cash in four years? Care for a wager?

I'll wager my bitcoin.  That ok?

Preferable.


Interesting that 3 of the women to be featured were Quakers.


You don't thing there'd be an unfortunate parallel with Earhart / money? 


Harriett Tubman seems like quite an incredibly remarkable woman.  I hadn't really known much about her:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman


Crazies greet the news...the $2 bill?

“Andrew Jackson had a great history. I think it’s very rough when you take someone off the bill,” Trump said in an interview on NBC’s “Today.” “I think Harriet Tubman is fantastic, I would love to leave Andrew Jackson.”

The GOP front-runner echoed the remarks of Ben Carson, who endorsed Trump after dropping out of the presidential race earlier this year, by suggesting Tubman appear on “another denomination” such as the $2 bill.

“Andrew Jackson was the last president who actually balanced the federal budget, where we had no national debt,” Carson said in an interview Wednesday. “In honor of that, we kick him off of the money.”

“I love Harriet Tubman, I love what she did,” Carson continued. “But we can find another way to honor her. Maybe a $2 bill.”


Spoken like two $3 bills.


It's almost embarrassing that it takes a popular musical to protect Alexander Hamilton from being removed.


What is embarrassing is that we spend so much time on who should be on our currency when there are other more pressing issues at hand.  Why not have no one on the money?  Then there will be no one to be offended or slighted.  Everyone gets all up in arms over the dumbest things these days.

All this ridiculousness over who should/shouldn't be on the money.  Who cares? 


Yeah, I really don't care. I'd much prefer functional changes to currency like different size notes (for the blind).


It is a shame that Canada already has a loon on their currency.  It would be more fitting for us to have it on U.S. currency to reflect on our citizens. 


spontaneous said:

It is a shame that Canada already has a loon on their currency.  It would be more fitting for us to have it on U.S. currency to reflect on our citizens. 

Stop disparaging those lovely birds! smile 


Brail currency.  I like that.  And for the hard of hearing, install a sound chip on each bill of that lady who played George Costanza's mom screaming.  "This is a Ten!"


GL2 said:
spontaneous said:

It is a shame that Canada already has a loon on their currency.  It would be more fitting for us to have it on U.S. currency to reflect on our citizens. 

Stop disparaging those lovely birds! <img src="> 

Thread drift... I once missed half a day of work because on my drive in I saw what appeared to be an injured bird trying to walk on Main Street where it crosses over 78 and enters Springfield.  I called animal control, but it became apparent they weren't showing up.  I then called The Raptor Trust, who told me to use a shirt or other similar cloth to pick it up and try to get it into a box, which I did.  I drove the bird out to the Raptor Trust, where it turns out it was an uninjured loon who had been confused by the rain and had tried to land on the street thinking it was water (they said they get about 3-4 of these occurrences a year).  Since loons are water birds it is nearly impossible for them to take flight from dry land.  They fed him, let him rest overnight, and then released him into a pond the next day.  When I picked him up off the street I didn't realize he was a loon since he still had his brown winter plumage.

Later when telling this story to my mom she got snippy and asked how I knew it was a "he."  I sarcastically replied that the bird was flying close to a thousand miles to get laid, so it obviously was a male.  She didn't dispute that. oh oh 


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