SO Pool - females in the locker room and other stupid things... archived
Jul 22, 2007 at 3:40pm
My pet peeve is not so distant: parents seat their diapered children ON the table tops! Yes, wet diapers, oozing liquid, on the tables.
I hate seeing anyone sit on a table; food is generally soon to follow. But diapers -- yuck!
I hate seeing anyone sit on a table; food is generally soon to follow. But diapers -- yuck!
Little girls is the men's room seeing other naked men and boys??? OMG!!! Are you kidding Pete????????
Peter
Have you spoken to Paul about this? If that doesn't work try Andy at the Baird Center. And if that doesn't work -PIZZAZ!!!
The other day I had a certain eleven year old and her friend at the pool. There was a little boy, about five or six years old, running around with a shirt but no bottoms. Nothing at all. He kept running over to the walk for the main pool and around the picnic area running up to the different tables watching people. He also ran in and out of the baby pool a few times.
After this kid ran up to us for the third time I finally said something. I asked the father if the child had a bathing suit. To which he replied "yes." I asked 'Don't you think he should be wearing it?" The father tells me it was wet! DUH you're at the pool!
Some parents are clueless!
Have you spoken to Paul about this? If that doesn't work try Andy at the Baird Center. And if that doesn't work -PIZZAZ!!!
The other day I had a certain eleven year old and her friend at the pool. There was a little boy, about five or six years old, running around with a shirt but no bottoms. Nothing at all. He kept running over to the walk for the main pool and around the picnic area running up to the different tables watching people. He also ran in and out of the baby pool a few times.
After this kid ran up to us for the third time I finally said something. I asked the father if the child had a bathing suit. To which he replied "yes." I asked 'Don't you think he should be wearing it?" The father tells me it was wet! DUH you're at the pool!
Some parents are clueless!
composerjohn -- #2 -- not a problem for 17 - 18 year old guys :wink:
yes, JTA, little girls in the mens locker room, showering, while other guys are in there -- happens from time to time.
last year there was a man with an boy and girl (5/6/7 ish) -- and they would all happily shower (without clothes) while others were in there. the man had a strong accent (European I would say), so there may have been some cultural differences at play here. I did say something.
but today -- I was pretty floored about the kids. As the father of a daughter, when she was that age I would have just wrapped her in a towel and headed home if her Mom wasn't there. Wasn't a way to say anything, without in being in front of the kids. yes, some parents are really clueless.
the staff at the pool, though -- is another matter entirely. by this part of the summer you see them walking around the pool in their own little cliques, talking about this manager or another manager, or their family members. and all they want to do is get the summer over with, well, or at least their day over with.
I remember on the last day of the season, the testosterone laden male staff were collecting the dark green heavy chairs from around the perimeter of the pool -- they were literally lifting them up into the air and chucking them -- as if they were trying to destroy them. I stood up to say something, and another resident beat me to it. The comeback "we won't be here next year" Arrogance...
OH PURE PROGRESS -- some housecleaning is needed in this area....
yes, JTA, little girls in the mens locker room, showering, while other guys are in there -- happens from time to time.
last year there was a man with an boy and girl (5/6/7 ish) -- and they would all happily shower (without clothes) while others were in there. the man had a strong accent (European I would say), so there may have been some cultural differences at play here. I did say something.
but today -- I was pretty floored about the kids. As the father of a daughter, when she was that age I would have just wrapped her in a towel and headed home if her Mom wasn't there. Wasn't a way to say anything, without in being in front of the kids. yes, some parents are really clueless.
the staff at the pool, though -- is another matter entirely. by this part of the summer you see them walking around the pool in their own little cliques, talking about this manager or another manager, or their family members. and all they want to do is get the summer over with, well, or at least their day over with.
I remember on the last day of the season, the testosterone laden male staff were collecting the dark green heavy chairs from around the perimeter of the pool -- they were literally lifting them up into the air and chucking them -- as if they were trying to destroy them. I stood up to say something, and another resident beat me to it. The comeback "we won't be here next year" Arrogance...
OH PURE PROGRESS -- some housecleaning is needed in this area....
Pete...I am shocked about little girls in the men's room. That is inappropriate and should be addressed. I agree..I would have wrapped the kid up in a towel and headed home. The thought of my young daughter seeing another naked adult male in a dressing room or shower sends shivers up my spine!
And that man who runs the pool...dark hair heavy-set guy...he is always reprimanding the guards i fron of other people...I mean YELLING at them. That is very unprofessional. No matter what the job pr profession, supervisors do not publically reprimand their subordinates.
And finally..I hate the pool. It's gross. I was a guard and pool operator for years and the SO pool is not clean and poorly managed. The guards seem pre-occupied to me and the bathrooms are deplorable. And I can tell the chlorine levels fluctuate greatly. This means they are not being monitored correctly and can allow all kinds of disease to spread. Yuck! That place really needs some help.
And that man who runs the pool...dark hair heavy-set guy...he is always reprimanding the guards i fron of other people...I mean YELLING at them. That is very unprofessional. No matter what the job pr profession, supervisors do not publically reprimand their subordinates.
And finally..I hate the pool. It's gross. I was a guard and pool operator for years and the SO pool is not clean and poorly managed. The guards seem pre-occupied to me and the bathrooms are deplorable. And I can tell the chlorine levels fluctuate greatly. This means they are not being monitored correctly and can allow all kinds of disease to spread. Yuck! That place really needs some help.
I don't know how the layout of the men's locker room is, but I bring my 4 and 1.5yo boys in the ladies' locker room just about every day. I'm not sure what else I'm expected to do with them--should I send my 4yo into the men's room by himself when he has to pee? Should I make them wait outside if I have to answer the call of nature (and being pregnant, that's every 30 minutes)? If people don't want to be seen getting dressed, there are stalls and showers that they can enter.
Mammabear, I'm sorry you think the pool is gross. But for the price we pay, it's a bargain. I'd rather wear flipflops in the locker room than have to pay hundreds of dollars to get in, like all of the surrounding towns. I'm sure if one felt strongly about it, one could do something proactive, like donating some cash to go toward maintence or volunteering for cleanup.
Mammabear, I'm sorry you think the pool is gross. But for the price we pay, it's a bargain. I'd rather wear flipflops in the locker room than have to pay hundreds of dollars to get in, like all of the surrounding towns. I'm sure if one felt strongly about it, one could do something proactive, like donating some cash to go toward maintence or volunteering for cleanup.
Amie...I would be happy to pay a normal fee for SO pool...and happy to contribute in any way to improve the place. I could care less if it's a bargain or not...and I hate to hear that the price we pay is the reason why it is unsanitary. I doubt the family who donated the land and set up that trust would be happy to know we all expect less because we don't pay that much to belong there.
Ideally, the answer would be to create a "family bathroom" that could be used by a father who takes a little girl to the pool.
I think it is sad that women taking young sons to the pool is far more accepted than men taking young daughters. Is the issue any small child seeing the opposite sex, or that men are more prone to walk around the locker room naked? Instead of castigating the men who bring small daughters to the pool, let's come up with a solution that actually works for them! (agreed that they should be using the most private means possible, if they must do so)
I think it is sad that women taking young sons to the pool is far more accepted than men taking young daughters. Is the issue any small child seeing the opposite sex, or that men are more prone to walk around the locker room naked? Instead of castigating the men who bring small daughters to the pool, let's come up with a solution that actually works for them! (agreed that they should be using the most private means possible, if they must do so)
There is a curtained shower in the men's locker room. That's the solution. According to the original post, it wasn't being used.
I used it to wash pop sickle drippings off my son before the next swim. It has a hand held shower head -- for an adult to wash a child.
Why would a father bringing a girl into that area NOT use that curtained stall with the hand held?
I used it to wash pop sickle drippings off my son before the next swim. It has a hand held shower head -- for an adult to wash a child.
Why would a father bringing a girl into that area NOT use that curtained stall with the hand held?
Under no circumstance would I have ever taken Emily into a public shower room reserved for men. That is insanity. Your child could wait till she gets home to shower, if not for that reason, just think about things like Athlete's Foot and Planter's warts. Ugh. :shocked:
I'm in Maplewood, but I also bring my toddler (male) into the women's locker room to shower and change him. He wears his plastic sandals in the shower. If a father decides it's better to bring home a young daughter right after the pool, how does one keep the carseat from getting soggy? Is she to be changed in the main pool area instead of the men's locker room? The closed off stall sounds good for those who want some modesty. But, of course, some little ones love to run around naked (like my boy who will escape the towel to go over to the full-length mirror to check out his naked self, and make some funny faces).
I think all of these gripes are legitimate with one exception. I think little kids are OK in an opposite sex locker room. Not a shower. I guess that's arbitrary of me, but there you go. When you're the only parent available, you have to take your kid into your own locker room. And really, I don't think anyone is traumatized by it. When they're seven or so, they can go into their same-sex locker room.
I brought my daughters in with me until they were that age. I did tell them not to stare. That's all.
I brought my daughters in with me until they were that age. I did tell them not to stare. That's all.
Posted By: amieI don't know how the layout of the men's locker room is, but I bring my 4 and 1.5yo boys in the ladies' locker room just about every day. I'm not sure what else I'm expected to do with them--should I send my 4yo into the men's room by himself when he has to pee? Should I make them wait outside if I have to answer the call of nature (and being pregnant, that's every 30 minutes)? If people don't want to be seen getting dressed, there are stalls and showers that they can enter.
Mammabear, I'm sorry you think the pool is gross. But for the price we pay, it's a bargain. I'd rather wear flipflops in the locker room than have to pay hundreds of dollars to get in, like all of the surrounding towns. I'm sure if one felt strongly about it, one could do something proactive, like donating some cash to go toward maintence or volunteering for cleanup.
I totally agree with you amie. I go to the pool almost every day and I have a 4 year old son. My husband is at work and when he needs to go to the bathroom I take him to the girls room with me. I would never think of letting him go by himself to the mens room.
He has very sensitive skin and the doctor told me that after he spends time in the pool that we need to give him a shower right away to get the chlorine off. Well I am not going to let him shower by himself in the mens room so he comes with me to the ladies room. Their are shower curtain there.
When my husband is around he takes my son to the mens room but I know lots of men who take there daughters to the mens room because their wife is not around.
I think men have a much bigger problem with women being in the room then women do.
Yes the bathrooms could use some work but they are not horrible and we are paying almost nothing for the use of the pool.
I used to see that at The Connection in Summit. Girls as old as 7 or 8 showering with clothes on with men of all ages showering totally naked. I complained to the management there, but as far as I could tell they did nothing about it. I just can't imagine how their parents could consider this a healthy or safe practice. I was there with my 5 yr old son (I wasn't showering) so it wasn't a big deal to me personally, but I found it to be offensive. Is it THAT important to take a shower???
What do you mean safe? Do you think there's a rape potential there? People are usually not so bad, I find.
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SomethingzJizzystoneCreator would have been so much better.
Will we be seeing you again, friend? That post was rather anticlimatic.
I was thinking the same thing Fishy except I would have like SomethingzJizzystoneCreator66 as the name.
Jul 23, 2007 at 5:17am Edited
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Will we be seeing you again, friend? That post was rather anticlimatic
when you least expect it...
Will we be seeing you again, friend? That post was rather anticlimatic
when you least expect it...
Jul 23, 2007 at 5:19am Edited
Edited for Oldstone:
I am looking forward to seeing SomethingzJizzyStone... again!
I am looking forward to seeing SomethingzJizzyStone... again!
i am really having a hard time getting that post just right with the green box, etc.
Pete seems to spend an awful lot of time in the men's locker room...:wink:
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we were at Home Depot once and i took my daughter to the women's room. It was beautiful! Pristine, looked new. so the next time we went, i was busy looking at something and my dtr had to go (she was 3 or 4 at the time), so i asked my husband to take her to the men's room. I said, "The bathrooms here are really nice and clean."
He came back with her saying, what are you talking about? that was a horrible experience! it was filthy in there! i couldn't find a single clean toilet for her to use!
i had to laugh becus i had not thought about the fact that there are probably a lot more men in Home Depot than women so the male bathroom would get a lot more use! (plus men are usually a little messier it seems to me).
i wonder why naked men can't just be a little more discreet when some dad needs to bring their daughter in to change? it's probably only for a few minutes.
He came back with her saying, what are you talking about? that was a horrible experience! it was filthy in there! i couldn't find a single clean toilet for her to use!
i had to laugh becus i had not thought about the fact that there are probably a lot more men in Home Depot than women so the male bathroom would get a lot more use! (plus men are usually a little messier it seems to me).
i wonder why naked men can't just be a little more discreet when some dad needs to bring their daughter in to change? it's probably only for a few minutes.
This will be the last season for the pool manager since he's taking on a new job that requires travel. If anyone has an interest and experience in managing a pool facility, please let Andy Brady know. I'm sure he would like to interview a good number of candidates for the post next year.
BTW: I think all the showers should be curtained off. This shouldn't be an issue with small kids accompanied by a parent into a restroom.
BTW: I think all the showers should be curtained off. This shouldn't be an issue with small kids accompanied by a parent into a restroom.
I agree with the conditions of the bathroom at the pool.
Could def. need some work.
I love the pool. We are there every day if we can and I enjoy the summer here so much. It is affordable for us and eventhough it is not a luxerious country club ( Thank God for that!!!), it is a place where you can bring your own stuff and just have a good time.
About the nakedness. I do not wear a lot at clothes at home and my kids are here. I have discussed it with other of my European friends and we all agree, what is the big deal? We all look alike.
Could def. need some work.
I love the pool. We are there every day if we can and I enjoy the summer here so much. It is affordable for us and eventhough it is not a luxerious country club ( Thank God for that!!!), it is a place where you can bring your own stuff and just have a good time.
About the nakedness. I do not wear a lot at clothes at home and my kids are here. I have discussed it with other of my European friends and we all agree, what is the big deal? We all look alike.
I think cultures have a lot to do with attitudes towards nudity. If i am changing my child at the poolside i wrap a towel around him before i change him. My wife (European) does not.
We are both happy to do it our own way.
Son always seems happy.
Noone ever has ever said anything to either of us, or given us "the look" or "the fist" or....
We are both happy to do it our own way.
Son always seems happy.
Noone ever has ever said anything to either of us, or given us "the look" or "the fist" or....
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1. Fathers that bring their 2, 3, 4 year old girls into the men's locker room. Send them to shower (naked) with adult men and boys who are showering (naked). I'm not comfortable with it, and pretty certain that 10, 11 year old boys are not either. (if these dads MUSt bring their little girls in, there is a closed off shower and there is a closed off changing area they could use, but rather they didn't bring them in at all...)
2. Female lifeguards who think nothing of coming in the men's lockerroom and cleaning up, while guys (naked) are showering.
3. Why is it that the lifeguards who come in to start cleaning up the men's lockerroom begin at about 7:40? Really annoying if you want to squeeze out those last minutes in the water.
4. And, when those lifeguards come in -- why do they flush all the men's room toilets/urinals at once while there are people showering? The rather primitive plumbing system doesn't take well to that.
5. And, when the lifeguards come in -- why MUST they start throwing buckets (watering cans...?) of cleaners onto the floor WHILE PEOPLE ARE STILL SHOWERING?!?!?
This seems to happen every year. As the season progresses, there is, for a lack of better word, a real arrogrance among much of the pool staff. Saying something doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
Ugh
Pete