Powerful speech by Meryl Streep at Golden Globes !

No surprise an infantile twitter attack response from you know who.



I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!


"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Amazing speech by Ms. Streep! I am happy she SPOKE OUT about issues that does matter to this country.

BRAVO!


er, you voted, apparently, for a reality-tv show star. Which is somewhat less than an actor.

mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!



Yes, how dare a mature, Yale-educated woman make a statement that bullying is wrong. She doesn't have the rich, varied experience or the deep understanding of the human condition that you see in the Trump kids.


Yes, a TV "Reality" Star gets elected. Even The Regans are turning over in their graves. Actors and Directors have led us up to face and make change on most of the major issues of the time. Watch the Sidney Lumet interview available on PBS Ondemand. Creative People be they Poets, Actors, Directors lead culture, usually into better spaces. Just sayin' So I will gladly take some advice from Ms. Streep. Way better prepared for President than a flawed, self promoting huckster and failed Businessman.

Want to see those tax returns!

Best Regards,

Ron Carter

drummerboy said:

er, you voted, apparently, for a reality-tv show star. Which is somewhat less than an actor.
mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!




mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor.

And yet, 8 years of Ronald Reagan.


so good we had to read it twice!!


why can't you listen to someone's opinion regardless of their profession, and decide whether or not it's valid and well-supported? Why is an actor or a musician's POV less valid than yours or mine, based strictly on their occupation?

I really resent the "shut up and sing" folks (who are almost always conservatives, btw. I've heard plenty of liberals make fun on Ted Nugent or express disgust at what he says. But I've yet to hear anyone say he should shut up because he's a musician of sorts). For example, I listened to Bruce Springsteen on Marc Maron's WTF podcast, and even people who don't agree with him should be able to conclude that he's a very thoughtful, well-informed and principled guy. (Of course it doesn't help when members of the news media pulled a quote from the interview out of context to say Bruce is "scared" of Trump as president. It was of course a lot more nuanced than that). But of course, he was greeted from the right with "shut up and sing Bruce."

If you're going to be respectful of others points of view, you should be able to respond to their arguments on the merits, and not dismiss them because they don't have the cachet of The New York Times or some other major news organization.

mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!



As grandparents of two grandsons on the autism spectrum, her criticism of Trump's mocking a disabled reporter touched us deeply. It had to be said. There is no way that Trump can be forgiven for that.

eta - Thank you, Ms. Streep.




drummerboy said:

so good we had to read it twice!!

Indeed. It didn't post the first time, so I hit reply again.


Pray tell, which other professions disqualify you from stating your opinions on issues facing our country?


However, you voted, I assume, for an actor and a reality tv star. Fascinating

mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!



+1000

ml1 said:

why can't you listen to someone's opinion regardless of their profession, and decide whether or not it's valid and well-supported? Why is an actor or a musician's POV less valid than yours or mine, based strictly on their occupation?

I really resent the "shut up and sing" folks (who are almost always conservatives, btw. I've heard plenty of liberals make fun on Ted Nugent or express disgust at what he says. But I've yet to hear anyone say he should shut up because he's a musician of sorts). For example, I listened to Bruce Springsteen on Marc Maron's WTF podcast, and even people who don't agree with him should be able to conclude that he's a very thoughtful, well-informed and principled guy. (Of course it doesn't help when members of the news media pulled a quote from the interview out of context to say Bruce is "scared" of Trump as president. It was of course a lot more nuanced than that). But of course, he was greeted from the right with "shut up and sing Bruce."

If you're going to be respectful of others points of view, you should be able to respond to their arguments on the merits, and not dismiss them because they don't have the cachet of The New York Times or some other major news organization.
mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!



like every criticism that comes from the right, it's situational. They scream at the left for being "moral relativists" when they're the worst practitioners.

ml1 said:

why can't you listen to someone's opinion regardless of their profession, and decide whether or not it's valid and well-supported? Why is an actor or a musician's POV less valid than yours or mine, based strictly on their occupation?

I really resent the "shut up and sing" folks (who are almost always conservatives, btw. I've heard plenty of liberals make fun on Ted Nugent or express disgust at what he says. But I've yet to hear anyone say he should shut up because he's a musician of sorts). For example, I listened to Bruce Springsteen on Marc Maron's WTF podcast, and even people who don't agree with him should be able to conclude that he's a very thoughtful, well-informed and principled guy. (Of course it doesn't help when members of the news media pulled a quote from the interview out of context to say Bruce is "scared" of Trump as president. It was of course a lot more nuanced than that). But of course, he was greeted from the right with "shut up and sing Bruce."

If you're going to be respectful of others points of view, you should be able to respond to their arguments on the merits, and not dismiss them because they don't have the cachet of The New York Times or some other major news organization.
mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!



Kellyanne Conway: "Judge Trump by what's in his heart, not what comes out of his mouth."

We know what's in his heart, Kellyanne.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-statements-kellyanne-conway-233344



Thank you for your response to this, @ml1 - Agree wholeheartedly and you said it better than I would have.

ml1 said:

why can't you listen to someone's opinion regardless of their profession, and decide whether or not it's valid and well-supported? Why is an actor or a musician's POV less valid than yours or mine, based strictly on their occupation?

I really resent the "shut up and sing" folks (who are almost always conservatives, btw. I've heard plenty of liberals make fun on Ted Nugent or express disgust at what he says. But I've yet to hear anyone say he should shut up because he's a musician of sorts). For example, I listened to Bruce Springsteen on Marc Maron's WTF podcast, and even people who don't agree with him should be able to conclude that he's a very thoughtful, well-informed and principled guy. (Of course it doesn't help when members of the news media pulled a quote from the interview out of context to say Bruce is "scared" of Trump as president. It was of course a lot more nuanced than that). But of course, he was greeted from the right with "shut up and sing Bruce."

If you're going to be respectful of others points of view, you should be able to respond to their arguments on the merits, and not dismiss them because they don't have the cachet of The New York Times or some other major news organization.
mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!



has even one conservative ever told Ted Nugent to "shut up and play?"

drummerboy said:

like every criticism that comes from the right, it's situational. They scream at the left for being "moral relativists" when they're the worst practitioners.



I've never told Scott Baio to shut up and get back to acting. I mean....who would want to see that happen? ;-)


that's part of the issue I suppose. Does anyone really want Kid Rock or Ted Nugent to get back to their music?

TigerLilly said:

I've never told Scott Baio to shut up and get back to acting. I mean....who would want to see that happen? ;-)



Apparently Ted has told himself to "shut up and jam"

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ted-nugent-shut-up-and-jam-review/

ml1 said:

has even one conservative ever told Ted Nugent to "shut up and play?"
drummerboy said:

like every criticism that comes from the right, it's situational. They scream at the left for being "moral relativists" when they're the worst practitioners.




mtierney said:

I for one, would never seek out political opinion or advice from an actor. They are members of a make-believe world who are paid extraordinary amounts of money for our amusement.

I think taking advantage of an awards platform to speak out only continues to speak down to the "deplorables" who voted for DJT-- the folks who pay those extraordinary prices at movie and theater box offices across America.

I will continue to admire Ms Streep's acting skills, however, that is what I pay to see!

Speaking of members of a make believe world...I'm not sure actors are the primary members of that group. They are also not the only members that have been paid amusingly extraordinary amounts of money or used inappropriate platforms to speak down to others... as M Streep's so elegantly reminded us.

I do agree with you about M Streep's acting skills. She can change into different characters in seconds and I tend to have an automatic interest in any show or movie in which she participates. What an incredible mentor she must be.



TigerLilly said:

I've never told Scott Baio to shut up and get back to acting. I mean....who would want to see that happen? ;-)

oh oh oh oh oh oh


She's free to say whatever she likes and she's freely criticized or lauded. Who says otherwise?

The MMA and NFL comments were self inflicted wounds and do suggest Ms. Streep doesn't think very much of a large swath of her audience. No outrage that some may suggest the feeling is mutual.



I despise Trump and I applaud MS's speech and loved every moment of it...but if it was a someone bashing Obama while receiving a Golden Globe award, I would probably object. Just trying to keep my judgmental-ness in check.



Jackson_Fusion said:

She's free to say whatever she likes and she's freely criticized or lauded. Who says otherwise?

The MMA and NFL comments were self inflicted wounds and do suggest Ms. Streep doesn't think very much of a large swath of her audience. No outrage that some may suggest the feeling is mutual.

Streep merely said that we would be worse off as a culture if these football and MMA were the only available entertainment options.

NFL fans who want to feel insulted need only look at the quality of this past weekend's playoff games.


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