Ladies, do any of you have double process hair color? archived
like the name implies, it's twice as much time and money etc.
If you want your hair lighter you first have to bleach it down and process that THEN deposit color on that and process again. Trickier for the stylist to do too - also sizzles the life out of your hair.
If you're determined to give it a try, I say go for it - Jersey is the place to find a salon that will make you a blond's blond.
Try a place that specializes in color if your colorist doesn't want to deal.
If you want your hair lighter you first have to bleach it down and process that THEN deposit color on that and process again. Trickier for the stylist to do too - also sizzles the life out of your hair.
If you're determined to give it a try, I say go for it - Jersey is the place to find a salon that will make you a blond's blond.
Try a place that specializes in color if your colorist doesn't want to deal.
Jun 7, 2013 at 3:52am Edited
I used to have it and yes it IS a lot of upkeep. Now I went back to my natural color with hi-lights.
Edited to add* it used to cost me 300-400 dollars every 6-8 weeks
Edited to add* it used to cost me 300-400 dollars every 6-8 weeks
But did it look great, SlyFoxy1? And do you miss the color (not the work/price/time involved)?
rudbekia said:
Wow, when you add it all up like that, LL, it sounds like a bargain!
Now you gotta! Try Subway in Millburn - they have a blond vibe
I just had my hair done at Anthony Garubo's by Larissa. She did a balayage over my already processed hair and it looks fantastic. It came to $130 including the root touch up and haircut. I'm not sure I could use just highlights over my natural color because I have so much grey.
rudbekia said:
Sigh, Subway is where I went...
Wow - sorry I suck
What about a more old lady place? That place next to the framing mill on Ridgewood?
No, I burned out on Garubo a long time ago. I don't think anyone there can color. Lately, I've been going to Just, but the last time I went I asked for beige blonde and ended up with strawberry blonde with lighter highlights (I HATE strawberry blonde on me and the stylist knows this so she f'ed up. I went back to have her fix it but it didn't get any better. I think it best to just assume she doesn't know how to color and move on.)
Yes MarthaS, I was thinking about an old lady place. If anyone knows how to do double process it's an old lady place, right? There's that Salon d'Or next to Just that I've thought about but just couldn't force myself to enter.
Patty at sanctuary salon in Chatham. She's excellent with color and I've been a fan since she worked at beaux gens at MASH
bella said:
Patty at sanctuary salon in Chatham. She's excellent with color and I've been a fan since she worked at beaux gens at MASH
OMG. One of the best haircuts I ever got was at Beaux Gens in MaSH. (Of course, I was in high school....)
Salon D'Or does have an "old lady" vibe to it. Certainly doesn't feel hip and fresh, if that kind of thing matters.
I'm extremely happy with Vanity in Montclair, but I get single process (as of now).
Phil at Moods in Hair does double process, and it's kind of an "old lady" place.
I'm a natural blonde, but my hair has darkened to dark ash blonde over the years. My young daughter has gorgeous natural light blond hair and I asked Phil if he could make my hair look like hers. He said yes, but it would be a double process that would need root touchup every two weeks. I went with highlights, as apparently I have a good "base" color. If you have the time and money for the maintenance, go for it!
I'm a natural blonde, but my hair has darkened to dark ash blonde over the years. My young daughter has gorgeous natural light blond hair and I asked Phil if he could make my hair look like hers. He said yes, but it would be a double process that would need root touchup every two weeks. I went with highlights, as apparently I have a good "base" color. If you have the time and money for the maintenance, go for it!
I've just started going to Phil at Moods in Hair as well. I'm super picky - I never got good color at Garubo. I get out of Moods for under $200. I have a LOT of hair so I did have to tell him that I wanted more highlights than he gave me last time. I'm still not as blond as I would like but for half the price of what I normally pay it's fine.
I'm a long time double process girl - I've been going to Louis Licari in the city for 18 years but I can't afford it anymore. The way to stretch it is to go for just the roots (single process) every 6-8-10 weeks based on how your hair grows (should be 50-70$) and how dark your roots are and then you can also stretch out your highlights since you won't have ugly roots.
I'm a long time double process girl - I've been going to Louis Licari in the city for 18 years but I can't afford it anymore. The way to stretch it is to go for just the roots (single process) every 6-8-10 weeks based on how your hair grows (should be 50-70$) and how dark your roots are and then you can also stretch out your highlights since you won't have ugly roots.
Ooooh, tell me of Louis Licari. That's where I'd really like to go. Did you use a particular colorist? And I thought once double process starts, you have to go for just the roots every 6-8-10 weeks. Why would there be highlights?
You still need highlights otherwise you are talking about single process. The single process is the base color and then you highlight on top of it.
Louis Licari - I can highly recommend Paige who I've been seeing since forever. She's one of the senior colorists. It's amazing and you will have perfect color and be out of there faster than other place as they have the system down pat. I dry my own hair (they have a room set up with blow dryers/products/brushes) as I won't pay their prices for a blow out. I only use them for color.
Louis Licari - I can highly recommend Paige who I've been seeing since forever. She's one of the senior colorists. It's amazing and you will have perfect color and be out of there faster than other place as they have the system down pat. I dry my own hair (they have a room set up with blow dryers/products/brushes) as I won't pay their prices for a blow out. I only use them for color.
Jun 7, 2013 at 5:40am Edited
I believe that double process is the lifting of the base to remove most color (step 1) and then toning to get the right, well, tone (step 2), in my case, beige blonde. I couldn't highlight over basically no color. If you put highlights on it would be a third process. I don't need highlights as I want my hair to be all one color.
Jun 7, 2013 at 5:44am Edited
rudbekia said:
But did it look great, SlyFoxy1? And do you miss the color (not the work/price/time involved)?
I did love it BUT with two kids/no time I couldn't justify the cost and 3 hours in the chair.
Ps deici (sp?) in Livingston.
Is where I used to go.
Right, but my kids are now 16, 14, and almost 8 and I'd like to have hair I like again!
rudbekia said:
Right, but my kids are now 16, 14, and almost 8 and I'd like to have hair I like again!
Try deici you will like it!
@shanabana has amazing color, she went from brown to blonde, and she goes to Kevin at Just. He's quite a big personality if you can deal with that, but I do think he is extremely gifted with color.
Jun 7, 2013 at 5:49am Edited
Beth Minardi on double process:
Double Process Dos and Don'ts
Beth regrets that the art of two process blonding is becoming lost. Why? "Because few of us were properly trained to do this time-consuming, precise and artistic form of hair coloring," she says. "Many colorists think 'two-process' blonde means that the hair is first colored with a blonde shade of permanent color. Next the resulting 'blonde' base is highlighted with a lightener."
In actuality, Beth defines "double process" as the following two steps:
1. Pre-lightening of brown hair to a yellow or pale yellow stage.
2. Toning the pre-lightened hair to a final blonde shade.
Beth is adamant about the fact that double process blonding is the only guaranteed method to achieving a balanced, rich, blonde result on Level 4 (light brown) color or deeper. "Although many colorists use a high lift 'single process' permanent haircolor formula to create blonde results," she notes, "this ineffective method often results in an unattractive, 'school bus yellow,' golden-orange brassy result. Why? Because even the most effective high-lift blonde formulas do not thoroughly remove the underlying warm (orange and gold) pigment present in most natural darker hair. Some colorists think that use of a 40-volume developer and a high-lift shade equal that of a lightener -- and this is a mistake."
The above "mistake" is what I got.
Shh, I think I know Kevin. He's fine. But I already go to someone else at Just so I don't think I could do the swap without feeling very uncomfortable. I think I'm just going to go into the city.
Double Process Dos and Don'ts
Beth regrets that the art of two process blonding is becoming lost. Why? "Because few of us were properly trained to do this time-consuming, precise and artistic form of hair coloring," she says. "Many colorists think 'two-process' blonde means that the hair is first colored with a blonde shade of permanent color. Next the resulting 'blonde' base is highlighted with a lightener."
In actuality, Beth defines "double process" as the following two steps:
1. Pre-lightening of brown hair to a yellow or pale yellow stage.
2. Toning the pre-lightened hair to a final blonde shade.
Beth is adamant about the fact that double process blonding is the only guaranteed method to achieving a balanced, rich, blonde result on Level 4 (light brown) color or deeper. "Although many colorists use a high lift 'single process' permanent haircolor formula to create blonde results," she notes, "this ineffective method often results in an unattractive, 'school bus yellow,' golden-orange brassy result. Why? Because even the most effective high-lift blonde formulas do not thoroughly remove the underlying warm (orange and gold) pigment present in most natural darker hair. Some colorists think that use of a 40-volume developer and a high-lift shade equal that of a lightener -- and this is a mistake."
The above "mistake" is what I got.
Shh, I think I know Kevin. He's fine. But I already go to someone else at Just so I don't think I could do the swap without feeling very uncomfortable. I think I'm just going to go into the city.
Yes, you want an old lady place where they speak this language and do it all the time. I have been thrilled with the place on Ridgewood (Stage One? Stage Right?) for years now -- good color, good price, general available on my skid and lots of gossip. No one's taking your coat and all that, but you can dash across to Cupcake Corral with your cape on and get coffee.
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