Josh Dugger and Ashley Madison : Purfect together.

But this slimeball has no problem telling you how to live your life.


Executive director of Family Research Council.


Link courtesy of Lars. Things may not always be as they seem on the list. Anyone can be anyone .

http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/08/19/22724283/so-youre-thinking-about-checking-to-see-if-your-husband-or-wife-was-on-ashely-madison


Sybil said:
Link courtesy of Lars. Things may not always be as they seem on the list. Anyone can be anyone .

The card was in his name and listed a billing address that belonged to a family member. If it is fake then someone created the fake account but kept quiet about it for two years waiting for it to be hacked and the info leaked?

http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


spontaneous said:


Sybil said:
Link courtesy of Lars. Things may not always be as they seem on the list. Anyone can be anyone .
The card was in his name and listed a billing address that belonged to a family member. If it is fake then someone created the fake account but kept quiet about it for two years waiting for it to be hacked and the info leaked?
http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Josh's home at that time was owned by his grandmother. She was probably secretly using his credit card for some fun on the side, since he had reformed his life, asked everyone for forgiveness, and received counseling.


Are Ashley Madison clients typically over 18? If so...Maybe we should leave this guy alone. For the children.


If he were an artist or a banker or a farmer I would agree that this is a matter between him and his wife. But that isn't the case. He was employed by a group which lobbied against LGBT rights, pro-choice rights, and other relevant causes because they decided they were immoral and indecent. As such, his hypocrisy (wanting to deny gay people the right to marry while himself looking to cheat in his own hetrosexual marriage) opens him up to criticsm.


The point is, he was making money off of rubes by telling them that other people were living their life in sin.


What's sad is Anna Duggar has no chance of getting out of that marriage. Even as she's now being publicly cuckolded and humiliated, she will stand by him.

I'm not judging people who choose to stay in a marriage after an affair. Just saying she will not believe she even has another option.


Exactly @TarheelsinNJ - I feel very sorry for her and her children.


This is not from The Onion:

Josh Duggar Admits Infidelity and Pornography Addiction: 'I Have Been the Biggest Hypocrite Ever'

http://www.people.com/article/josh-duggar-infidelity-pornography-addiction-statement


TarheelsInNj said:
This is not from The Onion:

Josh Duggar Admits Infidelity and Pornography Addiction: 'I Have Been the Biggest Hypocrite Ever'
http://www.people.com/article/josh-duggar-infidelity-pornography-addiction-statement

While I still have trouble mustering sympathy for Josh, it should be noted that he was raised within a family with very twisted and sick approach to sex and sexuality. It's no surprise to see that he's a complete mess.


Agreed. In almost all cases I would say "he's only human, everyone makes mistakes" (with regards to the infidelity, not the child molestation). But it's his public shaming of others and claim of the moral high road that gets me.


I have been the biggest hypocrite ever.

I actually respect him for saying that. I'm not saying that is a snarky or sarcastic manner either.


spontaneous said:


I have been the biggest hypocrite ever.
I actually respect him for saying that. I'm not saying that is a snarky or sarcastic manner either.

Yep. As opposed to "the devil made me do it" or some nonsense. Or just leaving that word out all together and asking for forgiveness, as he did with the child molestation charges. The fact that he flat-out said what we were all thinking is important.


Well, we'll see, I guess. Depends on whether this is true or not:

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/desperate-duggars-pitch-tlc-new-show-where-they-counsel-sex-abuse-victims-report/


Anyone who greenlights that concept should be shot.


ctrzaska said:
Anyone who greenlights that concept should be shot.

Absolutely 100-fecking-percent. SMH. I don't believe a single word that comes out of their mouths, and it looks like even this might be all about making money.


THIS is the takeway from that article...

“The family can’t afford to not have the show — it is their main source
of income, and with a family of that size, without it they’re in
enormous trouble,” said the family friend. “They know they have to at
least pretend to be sorry about what happened,

They (the parents_ disgust me, should have the remainder of their minor children taken away for child abuse and never ever be allowed to procreate agin.


Wishful thinking but the are the lowest scum of the earth to me.. Holier than thou, preaching the work of God and destroying each of their children UGH!!


That family is essentially its own bizarre cult.


I wouldn't believe a word he said if his tongue came notarized. (From one of those judge shows, the one with the Texas guy, but I don't remember who he was.)

Eta: Apparently, Judge Milan uses it, but she was not who I was thinking about.


PeggyC said:


ctrzaska said:
Anyone who greenlights that concept should be shot.
Absolutely 100-fecking-percent. SMH. I don't believe a single word that comes out of their mouths, and it looks like even this might be all about making money.

In the Duggar household, there's been lots of hand wringing about the TLC spigot getting shut off.


Marriage is sacred

But only man and woman

More women better.


I would venture a guess that most/many people who preach against others' indecency or work as leaders of organizations that seek to deny other's rights based on biblical verses are themselves struggling with the very forms of indecency they seek to eradicate. Stridency about how others live their lives is a defense against hatred of their own "deviant" desires.

It's a psychological defense mechanism called a reaction formation.


The Duggars counseling sexual abuse victims is like the fox watching the hen house.

Either Josh or the parents should be in jail for what happened.



shoshannah said:
I would venture a guess that most/many people who preach against others' indecency or work as leaders of organizations that seek to deny other's rights based on biblical verses are themselves struggling with the very forms of indecency they seek to eradicate. Stridency about how others live their lives is a defense against hatred of their own "deviant" desires.
It's a psychological defense mechanism called a reaction formation.

An ancient theme, this, and an inspiration for a lot of literature.


ctrzaska said:
Anyone who greenlights that concept should be shot.

From a giant cannon. Into the sun.

Just to be sure.


TarheelsInNj said:


spontaneous said:


I have been the biggest hypocrite ever.
I actually respect him for saying that. I'm not saying that is a snarky or sarcastic manner either.
Yep. As opposed to "the devil made me do it" or some nonsense. Or just leaving that word out all together and asking for forgiveness, as he did with the child molestation charges. The fact that he flat-out said what we were all thinking is important.

Actually in the first press release he did say something about satan making him do it but that was quickly taken down by the press machine and replaced with the most recent statement


He said something about allowing Satan build a fortress in his heart.

Now his wife is taking the fall. Pathetic.

judy3x said:


TarheelsInNj said:


spontaneous said:


I have been the biggest hypocrite ever.
I actually respect him for saying that. I'm not saying that is a snarky or sarcastic manner either.
Yep. As opposed to "the devil made me do it" or some nonsense. Or just leaving that word out all together and asking for forgiveness, as he did with the child molestation charges. The fact that he flat-out said what we were all thinking is important.
Actually in the first press release he did say something about satan making him do it but that was quickly taken down by the press machine and replaced with the most recent statement

They also removed his comments about being addicted to prnography as well..


I actually don't feel so bad for his wife. She knew the type of man he was when she married him. He told her about the incest and pedophilia.


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