FBI to conduct new investigation of emails from Clinton’s private server
Just when she thinks it's over, they pull her back in. Congrats, RC; I'm sure this was a welcome development.
Here's a question for people who know stuff: If Hillary wins the election but gets indicted and resigns before she and Kaine are sworn in, who becomes president? Kaine, even though he isn't yet VP? Not predicting this will actually happen, but what if it did?
RC,
There is no "new investigation," though I understand why you might think there is.
Obama
imonlysleeping said:
Here's a question for people who know stuff: If Hillary wins the election but gets indicted and resigns before she and Kaine are sworn in, who becomes president? Kaine, even though he isn't yet VP? Not predicting this will actually happen, but what if it did?
Can't tell if you're being serious? Can't imagine that's the right answer, but also don't get what the joke would be if you're joking.
vermontgolfer said:
Obama
imonlysleeping said:
Here's a question for people who know stuff: If Hillary wins the election but gets indicted and resigns before she and Kaine are sworn in, who becomes president? Kaine, even though he isn't yet VP? Not predicting this will actually happen, but what if it did?
imonlysleeping said:
Can't tell if you're being serious? Can't imagine that's the right answer, but also don't get what the joke would be if you're joking.
vermontgolfer said:
Obama
imonlysleeping said:
Here's a question for people who know stuff: If Hillary wins the election but gets indicted and resigns before she and Kaine are sworn in, who becomes president? Kaine, even though he isn't yet VP? Not predicting this will actually happen, but what if it did?
Obama is still the president until the next president is sworn in.
Sure, but who would that person be? Tim Kaine? Somebody else? Or would there need to be another election? Surely there is an answer to this question. Obama can't serve another term, so somebody would need to become president.
logically it would be tim kaine, but the republicans would certainly file a legal challenge and the supreme court will be deadlocked 4-4.
Donald Trump will claim it as inherently his, Paul Ryan will resign before someone asks him to do it, Mitch McConnell will obstruct it, Alexander Haig will say he's in charge from his grave.
Of course now the only reasonable thing for the Clinton campaign to do will be to get more gropees to come forward. Tried and true, and likely to be successful in attracting the media gaze....
Sigh..... it's all so icky....
Maybe the answer is Joe Biden, as the current VP at the time? Or perhaps Kaine is sworn in as VP when the time comes, then immediately becomes president due to there not being one?
Never mind, found the answer via google:
If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.
Not a new investigation and not from her server. These are emails from Anthony Weiner's phone.
eliz said:
Not a new investigation and not from her server. These are emails from Anthony Weiner's phone.
Just more "trumped" up media garbage. Nothing to see here, move along. Sorry GOP fans.
hoops said:
eliz said:
Not a new investigation and not from her server. These are emails from Anthony Weiner's phone.
Just more "trumped" up media garbage. Nothing to see here, move along. Sorry GOP fans.
Hmmm.. The FBI director, who has previously been very deferential to a presidential nominee, suddenly re-opens a criminal investigation into that nominee 11 days before an election. That's just "media garbage"? What would make it a legitimate story then?
kriss said:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/28/1587973/-New-e-mails-NOT-from-HRC-or-her-server
Why does it matter where they came from if they were enough to warrant re-opening the investigation?
That is a silly and desperate sounding defense.
Wow. This shows you haven't the slightest clue.
The investigation was specifically about her server. And nothing else.
ice said:
kriss said:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/28/1587973/-New-e-mails-NOT-from-HRC-or-her-server
Why does it matter where they came from if they were enough to warrant re-opening the investigation?
That is a silly and desperate sounding defense.
If this turns out to be a nothingburger, it will still be calories for the Hillaryhaters. ("Remember when Comey had to reopen the investigation?")
No amount of truth (it hasn't been reopened, it was never officially closed, and Comey appears to have just notified the committee that there was something tangentially related to it) will change that.
If nothing else, it gives Chaffetz cover for his shame in supporting Trump.
Swwetsnuggles said: "This is not a surprise."
True, we all know that HRC is pretty sleazy.
deferential?
Are you high?
Comey's lecture concerning his OPINION about the investigation was not deferential. It was a hit job.
As is his latest ploy. Utterly irresponsible on his part.
ice said:
hoops said:
eliz said:
Not a new investigation and not from her server. These are emails from Anthony Weiner's phone.
Just more "trumped" up media garbage. Nothing to see here, move along. Sorry GOP fans.
Hmmm.. The FBI director, who has previously been very deferential to a presidential nominee, suddenly re-opens a criminal investigation into that nominee 11 days before an election. That's just "media garbage"? What would make it a legitimate story then?
drummerboy said:
Wow. This shows you haven't the slightest clue.
The investigation was specifically about her server. And nothing else.
ice said:
kriss said:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/28/1587973/-New-e-mails-NOT-from-HRC-or-her-server
Why does it matter where they came from if they were enough to warrant re-opening the investigation?
That is a silly and desperate sounding defense.
Yeah, investigators should never, ever look to sourcesand evidence beyond the specific thing they are investigating.
A murder investigation? We have a body and a suspect. Why bother interviewing any witnesses? Our investigation is strictly about the murder victim and the suspect.
Do you just stop thinking when you are all riled up?
Did you even read Comey's letter? He is not "re-opening the investigation".
ice said:
kriss said:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/28/1587973/-New-e-mails-NOT-from-HRC-or-her-server
Why does it matter where they came from if they were enough to warrant re-opening the investigation?
That is a silly and desperate sounding defense.
couple thoughts
It's not a "nothing burger". FBI directors don't send letters to congress 11 days before an election over nothing.
The FBI seized Anthony AND HUMA Weiner's equipment. It appears those had "lost" emails. What the content is, who knows. But the point would be that these emails SHOULD have been on the server but were not. The natural question is why.
A president can be under criminal indictment as far as I know and still be President. We have a separation of powers that delegates the removal of a President to the people's representative- that's congress. Otherwise you could get a off-the-rails judge dropping indictments on people and somehow removing the highest elected official in the land from office. Not a good setup.
So even if criminal charges were brought, she's President until congress says she isn't.
kriss said:
Did you even read Comey's letter? He is not "re-opening the investigation".
ice said:
kriss said:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/28/1587973/-New-e-mails-NOT-from-HRC-or-her-server
Why does it matter where they came from if they were enough to warrant re-opening the investigation?
That is a silly and desperate sounding defense.
From what I understand he is not reopening it because it was never technically closed
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