Avenue Pub is open

https://www.avenuepubnj.com/

Just in time for Rutgers St. to be closed for PSE&G work!

The website seems to be under construction. No menu posted yet. 

I saw a post of the menu on Springfield Ave Partnership on that other social media site. I "borrowed" it.

ETA: Said it opened at noon.

What makes it a pub? Looks like a diner.

dave said:

What makes it a pub? Looks like a diner.

Has to have steaks and a couple of parmas to qualify as a pub, in my opinion!

Along with a good range of beer and other drinks - both alcoholic and non-alcoholic.

They do have Fish & Chips and Irish Coffee.

dave said:

What makes it a pub? Looks like a diner.

What makes it a pub is that it is a drinking establishment with food. A diner would have a much more extensive menu.

But don't think I am unappreciative of the classic MOL move of criticizing the menu before the place even opens

Coming soon…the two words widely used in this region of Essex County…

I don’t think there’s space on the sidewalk for the pub patrons to congregate outside to smoke or to start swinging with closed fists…

The burger with fries at $16 is promising. That’s one of the most reasonable examples of that particular pub standard. Especially since you can get substitute onion rings (if you feel like you need a vegetable) at the same price. 

To be fair this looks like it might be a soft opening menu. It looks family-friendly in terms of what’s available. Maybe they’ll add some more dishes, like steaks or fish as they get up and running.  But either way I think they deserve a chance to get established.

It’s very possible that they are just trying to get the doors open to start bringing in revenue as they continue to refine the menu. Starting up a restaurant is a costly endeavor!

The prices are really fare.  I think the knee jerk reaction is comparing the menu with St James Gate.  But if the service is good, the beer is cold and the food is consistent - they should be fine.  To me the purpose of a pub is to serve a neighborhood and there hasn't been much in that part of town for quite a while.

dave said:

What makes it a pub? Looks like a diner.

In a diner, you have to squint at the menu because of the density. In a pub, you have to squint at the menu because of the lighting.

family friendly = urchins running around + noise. 

ADD -- marble, granite and "no wood" = bad acoustics.  I probably wouldn't be able to hear the person sitting next to me. 

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

family friendly = urchins running around + noise. 

ADD -- marble, granite and "no wood" = bad acoustics.  I probably wouldn't be able to hear the person sitting next to me. 

What are you talking about?  I was talking about the menu. You could feed a family of 4 for $100-125 or so. 

And where are you getting the bad acoustics from? Is there a picture of the inside I didn’t see?

Sheesh what a grouch. 

post moved, wrong thread, was meant for the Osteria thread 

mrincredible said:

And where are you getting the bad acoustics from?

From Village Green article.  The decor is industrial hard. Stone material and no soft material to absorb sound.  This is the sparse, "industrial" restaurant motif of the last 15 years. Locally, Spot Diner and Artie's.   

^{Pub wise, it is purposely designed to keep older people out. Young'uns can tolerate the sound and older folks can't.  Bars want to appeal to younger customers.}

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

mrincredible said:

And where are you getting the bad acoustics from?

From Village Green article.  The decor is industrial hard. Stone material and no soft material to absorb sound.  This is the sparse, "industrial" restaurant motif of the last 15 years. Locally, Spot Diner and Artie's.   

^{Pub wise, it is purposely designed to keep older people out. Young'uns can tolerate the sound and older folks can't.  Bars want to appeal to younger customers.}

Double the decibels for night clubs playing electronic trance music.  No desire to go to any of the above.

nj sloppy joes are effing disgusting.  waste of menu space.

BarneyGumble said:

nj sloppy joes are effing disgusting.  waste of menu space.

what exactly is your beef with Cole slaw?

It's not loud at all.  And I'm super sensitive to loud. 

dave said:

What makes it a pub? Looks like a diner.

alcohol

KarenMarlowe said:

I saw a post of the menu on Springfield Ave Partnership on that other social media site. I "borrowed" it.

ETA: Said it opened at noon.

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

family friendly = urchins running around + noise. 

ADD -- marble, granite and "no wood" = bad acoustics.  I probably wouldn't be able to hear the person sitting next to me.

So get out sometime .. visit the actual establishment. Give it a chance. Talk to the owners give feedback before complaining on a community site about an experience you haven’t had. Bring said companion to bar.. comment from there if so.. otherwise .. wow