All 3 Tom Cruise Marriages Ended When Wives Were 33! archived
Well... not to be sexist, but when a woman reaches a certain age it gets harder and harder to pretend that she's a teenaged boy.
case said:
Well... not to be sexist, but when a woman reaches a certain age it gets harder and harder to pretend that she's a teenaged boy.
Case,
Seriously, does that number have a significance in Scientology? Does 3 wives at 33 prove a pattern, or do we need to wait for #4? And assuming that he needs at least one or two more years, and a marriage contract of 5 years before the next one turns 33, how young is his future bride now??? (I cant do the word problems on Saturdays...)
Seriously, does that number have a significance in Scientology? Does 3 wives at 33 prove a pattern, or do we need to wait for #4? And assuming that he needs at least one or two more years, and a marriage contract of 5 years before the next one turns 33, how young is his future bride now??? (I cant do the word problems on Saturdays...)
callista said:
Case,
Seriously, does that number have a significance in Scientology? Does 3 wives at 33 prove a pattern, or do we need to wait for #4? And assuming that he needs at least one or two more years, and a marriage contract of 5 years before the next one turns 33, how young is his future bride now??? (I cant do the word problems on Saturdays...)
The future Mrs. Cruise would be 26 now... Given they meet and marry in the next two years.
OMG case, LOL!!! I don't think Scientology had anything to do with it inasmuch as him planning the divorces, because they say he was blindsided by this; and the fact that Katie is seeking sole custody of Suri. I think the women left him at 33 because coincidentally, that is the age that each of them finally realized he is truly crazy...OR, they knew much earlier, but didn't have the guts to leave until they were a little more mature!
All kidding aside, and I'm talking out my ass here (as usual), but I wonder if the church of scientology buys them out at a certain point with a cash settlement and gag agreement?
What exactly happens if people break secrecy clauses? Do they get jail time?
I would imagine you get sued. So... if you and I had an agreement for you not to mention something and you violated that agreement I would have to hire lawyers and get after you in court.
Since the church of scientology has a lot of money, and let me stress a LOT of money, they have a lot of power. Couple that with Tom Cruise's net worth (and ability to litigate) and you've got a force to be reckoned with!
Since the church of scientology has a lot of money, and let me stress a LOT of money, they have a lot of power. Couple that with Tom Cruise's net worth (and ability to litigate) and you've got a force to be reckoned with!
All the Scientology craziness aside, he's not a great actor. He's clearly a movie star, but not a great actor. A huge difference.
Did anyone see him in Valkyrie? A very compelling and interesting story, the July 1944 attempt on Hitler's life. Only Tom Cruise could make such a story seem like Mission Impossible 3 or 4 or whatever number he's up to. When I watched Valkyrie, I kept saying to myself there's Tom Cruise trying to act like a German Lt. Colonel and it just isn't working.
Contrast him with a "lesser known", like Forrest Whitaker in The Last King of Scotland. When I watched that movie, I was watching Idi Amin, and not once did I think I was watching an actor portraying him. That's acting.
Good for Katie to have finally wised up. I heard that Tom, prior to Katie, approached Scarlett Johansen through his Scientology minions, and wanted to marry her. She told him to get lost. But Katie had a schoolgirl crush on Tom, and was not independent. Just what he wanted and kind of creepy.
Did anyone see him in Valkyrie? A very compelling and interesting story, the July 1944 attempt on Hitler's life. Only Tom Cruise could make such a story seem like Mission Impossible 3 or 4 or whatever number he's up to. When I watched Valkyrie, I kept saying to myself there's Tom Cruise trying to act like a German Lt. Colonel and it just isn't working.
Contrast him with a "lesser known", like Forrest Whitaker in The Last King of Scotland. When I watched that movie, I was watching Idi Amin, and not once did I think I was watching an actor portraying him. That's acting.
Good for Katie to have finally wised up. I heard that Tom, prior to Katie, approached Scarlett Johansen through his Scientology minions, and wanted to marry her. She told him to get lost. But Katie had a schoolgirl crush on Tom, and was not independent. Just what he wanted and kind of creepy.
I think that woman wants to get her daughter out of his grip. Its about time cause that man has always been creepy. I never knew what women saw in him ...he always gave me the creeps.
Jun 30, 2012 at 8:23pm Edited
Him jumping around on that sofa with Oprah - very creepy. It was him trying to convince the masses that this isn't an arranged/fake relationship,
it's true love! Another bad acting job.
it's true love! Another bad acting job.
The fact is he divorced Nichole Kidman when he did since had they been married any longer they would have exceeded the 10 year time span that would have made her eligible for much more money in the distribution of assets. She was blindsided by the divorce largely the way he is surprised now.
bettyd said:
All the Scientology craziness aside, he's not a great actor. He's clearly a movie star, but not a great actor.
He's our Tony Curtis.
case said:
All kidding aside, and I'm talking out my ass here (as usual), but I wonder if the church of scientology buys them out at a certain point with a cash settlement and gag agreement?
btw, I am NOT kidding when I say it took them that long to get away from crazy...been there, done that!
carolanne said:
I know about Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes. Who was the 3rd wife?
Mimi Rogers (1987–1990). Among other things, she starred in "Someone To Watch Over Me" with Tom Berenger...great movie. She got wise but quick!
Well...that part is particularly yucky. But I opine that Scientology isn't the only bug that makes TC NUTS...
I just cruised around wikipedia and learned that Greta Van Susteren is a practicing Scientologist, and that Jerry Seinfeld took some courses back when and thought them very useful.
Enormous "ick."
Enormous "ick."
Oh, god. ICK is right. :0&
And bettyd, I couldn't agree more. I'd rather watch a real actor any day of the week. I liked Tom Cruise in Risky Business, but not very much since then. I enjoyed that crazy movie where he was playing a spy with tongue firmly planted in cheek, because it seemed he was laughing at himself and his roles in the Mission Impossible genre, but mostly he seems to be drinking his own Koolaid. Blech.
And bettyd, I couldn't agree more. I'd rather watch a real actor any day of the week. I liked Tom Cruise in Risky Business, but not very much since then. I enjoyed that crazy movie where he was playing a spy with tongue firmly planted in cheek, because it seemed he was laughing at himself and his roles in the Mission Impossible genre, but mostly he seems to be drinking his own Koolaid. Blech.
Well Greta von Susteren is a nut anyway. Scientology just adds to the mix. Jerry - that's disappointing.
I know a woman who went to college with Greta von Susteren, and she said she's always been nuts.
Who knows? Just look over the list of some of the better known adherents, or dabblers. Most seem to have had major substance abuse issues in the past that some form of Scientology helped with.
Jul 1, 2012 at 5:27am Edited
Wow, check this Wikipedia list out:
List of members
Name Lifetime Notes
Kirstie Alley 1951– Actress.[2][3][4][5]
Anne Archer 1947– Actress (mother of Scientology spokesperson Tommy Davis).[3][6]
Jennifer Aspen 1973– Actress.[7][8]
Lynsey Bartilson 1983– Actress.[9]
Catherine Bell 1968– Actress.[9][10][11][12]
Karen Black 1939– Actress.[13][14][15]
Grant Cardone 1958– Salesman, author, motivational speaker, media personality[16]
Nancy Cartwright 1957– Voice-over actress.[9][15][17][18][19]
Kate Ceberano 1966– Actress and musician.[6][20][21][22] Ceberano is a third-generation-Scientologist; her grandmother worked as a governess for the children of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.[20]
Erika Christensen 1982– Actress, raised Scientologist.[2][3][9]
Jeff Conaway 1950–2011 Actor.[23][24][25][26]
Tom Constanten 1944– Former keyboardist for the Grateful Dead.[27][28][29]
Chick Corea 1941– Musician.[3][5][6][9]
Tom Cruise 1962– Actor[3][6][22]
Sky Dayton 1971– Founder of EarthLink.[30][31]
Doug Dohring Ex-owner of Neopets.[32]
Bodhi Elfman 1969– Actor.[33][34][35][36]
Jenna Elfman 1971– Actress.[2][3][5][9]
Richard Elfman Writer and director.[30]
Doug E. Fresh 1966– Musician and actor.[9][17][18]
Peaches Geldof 1989– Journalist, television presenter and model.[37][38][39][40]
Katie Holmes 1978– Actress (raised Catholic), introduced to Scientology by Tom Cruise while they were dating. Most likely broken off her affiliation after her split with him.[20][41]
[42]
Nicky Hopkins 1944–1994 Musician.[43]
Mark Isham 1951– Musician and film music composer.[44]
Milton Katselas 1933–2008 Acting teacher.[3][45]
Vivian Kubrick 1960– Musician and film music composer.
Jason Lee 1970– Actor.[5][9][46][47]
Geoffrey Lewis 1935– Actor.[48][49]
Juliette Lewis 1973– Actress.[3][5][48]
Noah Lottick 1966–1990 Scientologist whose suicide was the focus of the Time magazine article "The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power".[50][51][52][53][54][55]
Danny Masterson 1976– Actor.[2][9]
Lisa McPherson 1959–1995 American woman whose death has been a source of controversy for Scientology.[56][57]
Jim Meskimen 1959– Actor and improviser.[58][59]
Julia Migenes 1949– Opera singer.[60]
Sofia Milos 1965– Actress.[61][62]
Elisabeth Moss 1982– Actress.[63] Placed among "famous Scientologists" in a 2009 article in the St. Petersburg Times.[64]
Haywood Nelson 1960– Actor.[65]
Marisol Nichols 1973– Actress.[6]
Judy Norton Taylor 1958– Actress.[44][66][67]
Eduardo Palomo 1962–2003 Actor.[68][69]
Elli Perkins 1949–2003 Scientologist businesswoman[70] who was murdered by her son who suffered from mental illness.[71][72][73][74]
Bijou Phillips 1980– Actress and model.[75]
Laura Prepon 1980– Actress.[30]
Lisa Marie Presley 1968– Singer.[5][76]
Priscilla Presley 1945– Actress.[77]
Kelly Preston 1962– Actress and wife of John Travolta.[2][5][78]
Lee Purcell 1947– Actress.[44]
Leah Remini 1970– Actress.[2][9]
Giovanni Ribisi 1974– Actor raised Scientologist.[5][46]
Marissa Ribisi 1974– Actress raised Scientologist.[46]
Michael D. Roberts 1947– Actor.[44]
Ruddy Rodríguez 1967– Actress.[79][80]
Pablo Santos 1987–2006 Actor.[81]
Billy Sheehan 1953– Rock bassist.[60]
David Singer Chiropractor, Management by Statistics consultant.[82]
Reed Slatkin 1949– Criminal Ponzi scheme perpetrator.[83]
Ethan Suplee 1976– Actor.[47]
John Travolta 1954– Actor.[2][3]
Greta Van Susteren 1954– Television show host.[2][10][46] Listed among "A list" members of Scientology in a 2006 article in The Boston Globe. Identified among "notable Scientologists" in the 2007 edition of the book Extraordinary Groups: An Examination of Unconventional Lifestyles by authors William W. Zellner and Richard T. Schaefer.[84] Placed among "famous Scientologists" in a 2009 article in the St. Petersburg Times.[64] Her husband, a lawyer, is a fellow practitioner of Scientology.[46] She told People magazine, "I am a strong advocate of their ethics."[46]
Michael, Kathryn, and Sue Walicki 2007– Scientology family who was attacked by their mentally ill daughter/sister after a lapse in medication.[85][85][86]
Edgar Winter 1946– Musician.[56]
Beck Hansen 1970– Musician.[3][17][18][46]
FORMER MEMBERS
Name Lifetime Notes
Larry Anderson 1952– Actor, star of Orientation: A Scientology Information Film, left the organization in 2009 and requested his money back.[87]
Jason Beghe 1960– Actor, rose to Operating Thetan level OT V within the organization, left Scientology and subsequently spoke out publicly against the organization in 2008.[88][89]
Sonny Bono 1935–1998 Entertainer and congressman (R-CA 44th).[19] Identified among "notable Scientologists" in the 2007 edition of the book Extraordinary Groups: An Examination of Unconventional Lifestyles by authors William W. Zellner and Richard T. Schaefer.[84]
Kate Bornstein 1948– Transgender author, playwright, performance artist and gender theorist, was a spokesperson for Scientology.[90]
Stephen Boyd 1931–1977 Actor, rose to Grade IV within the organization, utilized Scientology techniques while filming a movie in Louisiana.[91]
John Brodie 1935– American football player.[4][92] Credited Dianetics with his recovery from a sports injury; left after some of his friends "were expelled and harassed during a power struggle with church management."[4]
William S. Burroughs 1914–1997 Burroughs was an author and poet. In the 1960s Burroughs joined and left the Church of Scientology. In talking about the experience, he claimed that the techniques and philosophy of Scientology helped him and that he felt that further study into Scientology would produce great results. He was skeptical of the organization itself, and felt that it fostered an environment that did not accept critical discussion.[93] His subsequent critical writings about the church and his review of Inside Scientology by Robert Kaufman led to a battle of letters between Burroughs and Scientology supporters in the pages of Rolling Stone magazine. He wrote the book, Ali's Smile: Naked Scientology.[94][95]
Diana Canova 1953– Actress.[96] Is critical of Scientology's "straightforward" desire for money.[97][98]
Tory Christman 1947– Whistleblower, and critic of the Scientology organization.[99]
Robert DeGrimston 1935– With wife, Marry Anne DeGrimston, founder of The Process Church of The Final Judgment.[100][101]
Philip Gale 1978–1998 Massachusetts Institute of Technology student and primary developer of EarthLink's innovative ISP software; committed suicide.[102]
Paul Haggis 1953– Film director, Academy Award winner, in response to the San Diego branch's public support of California Proposition 8 and other factors, including Scientology's "indefensible actions, and inactions" and lies.[103]
Robert Hunter 1941– Lyricist.[104]
Al Jarreau 1940– Singer.[105] Listed among "A list" members of Scientology, in a 2006 article in The Boston Globe.[105]
Charles Manson 1934– Identified as a Scientologist during time in prison.[20][100][106][107] Manson studied Scientology while incarcerated.[108] He incorporated Scientology doctrines in his teachings.[100] He ordered Manson Family member Bruce Davis to journey to the United Kingdom and work for the Scientology organization in London.[109]
Vince Offer 1964– Film director of The Underground Comedy Movie and spokesman for Shamwow!.[110]
Paul Twitchell 1908–1971 Spiritual writer and founder of Eckankar.[111][112] Joined Scientology and achieved the status of "Clear".[113]
Isaac Hayes 1942–2008 Musician and actor.[3][17]
List of members
Name Lifetime Notes
Kirstie Alley 1951– Actress.[2][3][4][5]
Anne Archer 1947– Actress (mother of Scientology spokesperson Tommy Davis).[3][6]
Jennifer Aspen 1973– Actress.[7][8]
Lynsey Bartilson 1983– Actress.[9]
Catherine Bell 1968– Actress.[9][10][11][12]
Karen Black 1939– Actress.[13][14][15]
Grant Cardone 1958– Salesman, author, motivational speaker, media personality[16]
Nancy Cartwright 1957– Voice-over actress.[9][15][17][18][19]
Kate Ceberano 1966– Actress and musician.[6][20][21][22] Ceberano is a third-generation-Scientologist; her grandmother worked as a governess for the children of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.[20]
Erika Christensen 1982– Actress, raised Scientologist.[2][3][9]
Jeff Conaway 1950–2011 Actor.[23][24][25][26]
Tom Constanten 1944– Former keyboardist for the Grateful Dead.[27][28][29]
Chick Corea 1941– Musician.[3][5][6][9]
Tom Cruise 1962– Actor[3][6][22]
Sky Dayton 1971– Founder of EarthLink.[30][31]
Doug Dohring Ex-owner of Neopets.[32]
Bodhi Elfman 1969– Actor.[33][34][35][36]
Jenna Elfman 1971– Actress.[2][3][5][9]
Richard Elfman Writer and director.[30]
Doug E. Fresh 1966– Musician and actor.[9][17][18]
Peaches Geldof 1989– Journalist, television presenter and model.[37][38][39][40]
Katie Holmes 1978– Actress (raised Catholic), introduced to Scientology by Tom Cruise while they were dating. Most likely broken off her affiliation after her split with him.[20][41]
[42]
Nicky Hopkins 1944–1994 Musician.[43]
Mark Isham 1951– Musician and film music composer.[44]
Milton Katselas 1933–2008 Acting teacher.[3][45]
Vivian Kubrick 1960– Musician and film music composer.
Jason Lee 1970– Actor.[5][9][46][47]
Geoffrey Lewis 1935– Actor.[48][49]
Juliette Lewis 1973– Actress.[3][5][48]
Noah Lottick 1966–1990 Scientologist whose suicide was the focus of the Time magazine article "The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power".[50][51][52][53][54][55]
Danny Masterson 1976– Actor.[2][9]
Lisa McPherson 1959–1995 American woman whose death has been a source of controversy for Scientology.[56][57]
Jim Meskimen 1959– Actor and improviser.[58][59]
Julia Migenes 1949– Opera singer.[60]
Sofia Milos 1965– Actress.[61][62]
Elisabeth Moss 1982– Actress.[63] Placed among "famous Scientologists" in a 2009 article in the St. Petersburg Times.[64]
Haywood Nelson 1960– Actor.[65]
Marisol Nichols 1973– Actress.[6]
Judy Norton Taylor 1958– Actress.[44][66][67]
Eduardo Palomo 1962–2003 Actor.[68][69]
Elli Perkins 1949–2003 Scientologist businesswoman[70] who was murdered by her son who suffered from mental illness.[71][72][73][74]
Bijou Phillips 1980– Actress and model.[75]
Laura Prepon 1980– Actress.[30]
Lisa Marie Presley 1968– Singer.[5][76]
Priscilla Presley 1945– Actress.[77]
Kelly Preston 1962– Actress and wife of John Travolta.[2][5][78]
Lee Purcell 1947– Actress.[44]
Leah Remini 1970– Actress.[2][9]
Giovanni Ribisi 1974– Actor raised Scientologist.[5][46]
Marissa Ribisi 1974– Actress raised Scientologist.[46]
Michael D. Roberts 1947– Actor.[44]
Ruddy Rodríguez 1967– Actress.[79][80]
Pablo Santos 1987–2006 Actor.[81]
Billy Sheehan 1953– Rock bassist.[60]
David Singer Chiropractor, Management by Statistics consultant.[82]
Reed Slatkin 1949– Criminal Ponzi scheme perpetrator.[83]
Ethan Suplee 1976– Actor.[47]
John Travolta 1954– Actor.[2][3]
Greta Van Susteren 1954– Television show host.[2][10][46] Listed among "A list" members of Scientology in a 2006 article in The Boston Globe. Identified among "notable Scientologists" in the 2007 edition of the book Extraordinary Groups: An Examination of Unconventional Lifestyles by authors William W. Zellner and Richard T. Schaefer.[84] Placed among "famous Scientologists" in a 2009 article in the St. Petersburg Times.[64] Her husband, a lawyer, is a fellow practitioner of Scientology.[46] She told People magazine, "I am a strong advocate of their ethics."[46]
Michael, Kathryn, and Sue Walicki 2007– Scientology family who was attacked by their mentally ill daughter/sister after a lapse in medication.[85][85][86]
Edgar Winter 1946– Musician.[56]
Beck Hansen 1970– Musician.[3][17][18][46]
FORMER MEMBERS
Name Lifetime Notes
Larry Anderson 1952– Actor, star of Orientation: A Scientology Information Film, left the organization in 2009 and requested his money back.[87]
Jason Beghe 1960– Actor, rose to Operating Thetan level OT V within the organization, left Scientology and subsequently spoke out publicly against the organization in 2008.[88][89]
Sonny Bono 1935–1998 Entertainer and congressman (R-CA 44th).[19] Identified among "notable Scientologists" in the 2007 edition of the book Extraordinary Groups: An Examination of Unconventional Lifestyles by authors William W. Zellner and Richard T. Schaefer.[84]
Kate Bornstein 1948– Transgender author, playwright, performance artist and gender theorist, was a spokesperson for Scientology.[90]
Stephen Boyd 1931–1977 Actor, rose to Grade IV within the organization, utilized Scientology techniques while filming a movie in Louisiana.[91]
John Brodie 1935– American football player.[4][92] Credited Dianetics with his recovery from a sports injury; left after some of his friends "were expelled and harassed during a power struggle with church management."[4]
William S. Burroughs 1914–1997 Burroughs was an author and poet. In the 1960s Burroughs joined and left the Church of Scientology. In talking about the experience, he claimed that the techniques and philosophy of Scientology helped him and that he felt that further study into Scientology would produce great results. He was skeptical of the organization itself, and felt that it fostered an environment that did not accept critical discussion.[93] His subsequent critical writings about the church and his review of Inside Scientology by Robert Kaufman led to a battle of letters between Burroughs and Scientology supporters in the pages of Rolling Stone magazine. He wrote the book, Ali's Smile: Naked Scientology.[94][95]
Diana Canova 1953– Actress.[96] Is critical of Scientology's "straightforward" desire for money.[97][98]
Tory Christman 1947– Whistleblower, and critic of the Scientology organization.[99]
Robert DeGrimston 1935– With wife, Marry Anne DeGrimston, founder of The Process Church of The Final Judgment.[100][101]
Philip Gale 1978–1998 Massachusetts Institute of Technology student and primary developer of EarthLink's innovative ISP software; committed suicide.[102]
Paul Haggis 1953– Film director, Academy Award winner, in response to the San Diego branch's public support of California Proposition 8 and other factors, including Scientology's "indefensible actions, and inactions" and lies.[103]
Robert Hunter 1941– Lyricist.[104]
Al Jarreau 1940– Singer.[105] Listed among "A list" members of Scientology, in a 2006 article in The Boston Globe.[105]
Charles Manson 1934– Identified as a Scientologist during time in prison.[20][100][106][107] Manson studied Scientology while incarcerated.[108] He incorporated Scientology doctrines in his teachings.[100] He ordered Manson Family member Bruce Davis to journey to the United Kingdom and work for the Scientology organization in London.[109]
Vince Offer 1964– Film director of The Underground Comedy Movie and spokesman for Shamwow!.[110]
Paul Twitchell 1908–1971 Spiritual writer and founder of Eckankar.[111][112] Joined Scientology and achieved the status of "Clear".[113]
Isaac Hayes 1942–2008 Musician and actor.[3][17]
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