I wonder if a certain "fruited one" bought a new keyboard.
It's possible, but that particular CHTP left our two towns a few years ago.
Community based Trophy Hunting Programme? And why does that even come up in a google search when the T and H words are not in the order of the acronym?
I guess you don't know that most street light wiring is overhead.
That's ok. There seems to be a lot you don't know.
Not sure why my report of lights being out in Memorial Park has sparked such emotional chaos, name calling and personal attacks, but hey it's okay. I hope you all stay safe. Just looking out for the community I live in that's all.
Just looking out for the community I live in that's all.
If that’s the case, I’m hoping for someone who can see more than three feet when the moon is nearly full (and who saves the bait for when there really is saltwater). Not that I get to choose.
I guess you don't know that most street light wiring is overhead.
That's ok. There seems to be a lot you don't know.
Oh, I see. Yes you are right. Overhead wires for street lighting never get water during a rain storm right. What about traffic lights are they also connected overhead?
I guess you don't know that most street light wiring is overhead.
That's ok. There seems to be a lot you don't know.
Oh, I see. Yes you are right. Overhead wires for street lighting never get water during a rain storm right. What about traffic lights are they also connected overhead?
lol
yes, overhead wires are extremely susceptible to flooding.
or do you think that protecting something from the rain is the same as protecting it from flooding?
yes, overhead wires are extremely susceptible to flooding.
or do you think that protecting something from the rain is the same as protecting it from flooding?
I think you should climb a utility pole and touch the top most electrical wire and answer your own question. See, overhead electrical wires are not protected, they are bare wires. That is why they are the top most wire and kept away from all other cable and low voltage wires. Also, when a branch falls on an overhead electrical wire, PSE&G needs to use special equipment and sometimes shut down the power to remove the tree branch. Sometimes those bare overhead wires arc and zap a tree if it comes to close to the wire. Underground electrical wires are protected by waterproof, conduit with special seals to keep water out and protect the wires from kinking and failing. That's why if you see a bird fly onto an overhead wire and they happen to touch the pole they get fried, but if they stand in the middle of the wire, the current flows through the bird because they allow the electrical current to flow without grounding. Protecting wires from the rain and from flooding with conduit is certainly the same. Not protecting something during a storm from adverse weather (snow, storm, etc.) and not having it fail like the lights in Memorial Park shows an inferior design or severe neglect. I think before giving an opinion about electrical wires and connections you maybe should work in a job that teaches you this type of stuff and do some manual labor for a change. It could save your life you know. And yes, to answer your question, if we one day had a flood that surpassed the height of the utility poles those electrical wires would be susceptible to flooding, and possible damage, but they would not fail as the lights in Memorial Park have failed and continue to be dark. For example, when a heavy wind breaks an overhead electrical wire, PSE&G suggests, you stay as far from the wire as you can, because the electrical current does not stop running through the wire. That electrical current can flow through metal, concrete, and even arc and zap you from a distance if you are not far enough. It can also catch fire and whip around and make all kinds of scary noises. If there is any damage to any sections of electrical conduit in Memorial Park (the type that is suggested above that would likely occur if an earthquake were to hit Maplewood) then certainly before turning on the power again this needs to be checked to prevent anyone from being zapped in Memorial Park. Wouldn't want people to die electrocuted in the dark. Flood or no flood, this is a very dangerous condition.
I think you should climb a utility pole and touch the top most electrical wire and answer your own question. See, overhead electrical wires are not protected, they are bare wires. That is why they are the top most wire and kept away from all other cable and low voltage wires. Also, when a branch falls on an overhead electrical wire, PSE&G needs to use special equipment and sometimes shut down the power to remove the tree branch. Sometimes those bare overhead wires arc and zap a tree if it comes to close to the wire. Underground electrical wires are protected by waterproof, conduit with special seals to keep water out and protect the wires from kinking and failing. That's why if you see a bird fly onto an overhead wire and they happen to touch the pole they get fried, but if they stand in the middle of the wire, the current flows through the bird because they allow the electrical current to flow without grounding. Protecting wires from the rain and from flooding with conduit is certainly the same. Not protecting something during a storm from adverse weather (snow, storm, etc.) and not having it fail like the lights in Memorial Park shows an inferior design or severe neglect. I think before giving an opinion about electrical wires and connections you maybe should work in a job that teaches you this type of stuff and do some manual labor for a change. It could save your life you know. And yes, to answer your question, if we one day had a flood that surpassed the height of the utility poles those electrical wires would be susceptible to flooding, and possible damage, but they would not fail as the lights in Memorial Park have failed and continue to be dark. For example, when a heavy wind breaks an overhead electrical wire, PSE&G suggests, you stay as far from the wire as you can, because the electrical current does not stop running through the wire. That electrical current can flow through metal, concrete, and even arc and zap you from a distance if you are not far enough. It can also catch fire and whip around and make all kinds of scary noises. If there is any damage to any sections of electrical conduit in Memorial Park (the type that is suggested above that would likely occur if an earthquake were to hit Maplewood) then certainly before turning on the power again this needs to be checked to prevent anyone from being zapped in Memorial Park. Wouldn't want people to die electrocuted in the dark. Flood or no flood, this is a very dangerous condition.
Old conduit pipes rust out. The connections to the light poles rust out over time. If there’s 2 feet of water covering the connectors water will make its way into the wiring. Short circuit will occur, wires are damaged. What most likely will happen is all the conduit will have to be replaced with pvc conduit. It’s really simple. Water on the overhead wires won’t arc them out, but if we have a flood all the way up the poles on the streets then I would hope Noah would have selected you to have a front row seat on his ARK. You are a plant from SNL.
yes, overhead wires are extremely susceptible to flooding.
or do you think that protecting something from the rain is the same as protecting it from flooding?
I think you should climb a utility pole and touch the top most electrical wire and answer your own question. See, overhead electrical wires are not protected, they are bare wires. That is why they are the top most wire and kept away from all other cable and low voltage wires. Also, when a branch falls on an overhead electrical wire, PSE&G needs to use special equipment and sometimes shut down the power to remove the tree branch. Sometimes those bare overhead wires arc and zap a tree if it comes to close to the wire. Underground electrical wires are protected by waterproof, conduit with special seals to keep water out and protect the wires from kinking and failing. That's why if you see a bird fly onto an overhead wire and they happen to touch the pole they get fried, but if they stand in the middle of the wire, the current flows through the bird because they allow the electrical current to flow without grounding. Protecting wires from the rain and from flooding with conduit is certainly the same. Not protecting something during a storm from adverse weather (snow, storm, etc.) and not having it fail like the lights in Memorial Park shows an inferior design or severe neglect. I think before giving an opinion about electrical wires and connections you maybe should work in a job that teaches you this type of stuff and do some manual labor for a change. It could save your life you know. And yes, to answer your question, if we one day had a flood that surpassed the height of the utility poles those electrical wires would be susceptible to flooding, and possible damage, but they would not fail as the lights in Memorial Park have failed and continue to be dark. For example, when a heavy wind breaks an overhead electrical wire, PSE&G suggests, you stay as far from the wire as you can, because the electrical current does not stop running through the wire. That electrical current can flow through metal, concrete, and even arc and zap you from a distance if you are not far enough. It can also catch fire and whip around and make all kinds of scary noises. If there is any damage to any sections of electrical conduit in Memorial Park (the type that is suggested above that would likely occur if an earthquake were to hit Maplewood) then certainly before turning on the power again this needs to be checked to prevent anyone from being zapped in Memorial Park. Wouldn't want people to die electrocuted in the dark. Flood or no flood, this is a very dangerous condition.
if you think I'm going to read this post you're nuts. I've got old man eyes.
While we're here, what's up with the right turn light at Millburn and Springfield Avenue westbound? It just turns red for no reason, and there's a No Turn On Red sign there. The right turn light goes red even when Springfield Avenue is green. There's no one crossing. There's no other traffic going that way. You're forced to stop for no reason, beautiful woman by your side or not.
Old conduit pipes rust out. The connections to the light poles rust out over time. If there’s 2 feet of water covering the connectors water will make its way into the wiring. Short circuit will occur, wires are damaged. What most likely will happen is all the conduit will have to be replaced with pvc conduit. It’s really simple. Water on the overhead wires won’t arc them out, but if we have a flood all the way up the poles on the streets then I would hope Noah would have selected you to have a front row seat on his ARK. You are a plant from SNL.
I guess we're screwed then. No Memorial Park lights people. Sorry. This will never get fixed. It's a shame, it is such a nice place to walk and relax. Also, the fall and winter months are upon us, and we will have longer nights, so good luck using the park. I don't know, I've seen electrical conduit running by the bridges, are we sure the contractor working on the bridges didn't sever the wires? Hey, all I'm saying is I'd hate to see something bad happen in Memorial Park like Underhill field. On the other hand, vigil candles would qualify as historic lighting, I guess. Sad. Just sad to see how Maplewood in unkept despite the high taxes paid here. Sad.
Good advice except as they said they had already done it
MOL is a community conversation - I don’t see how bringing up a concern and reporting how you’ve addressed it so far is a waste of anyone’s time…
To be fair, CHTP asked DPW and then came on here and asked us. DPW (one of the few authorities who could actually answer the question) hasn't answered, but because CHTP also asked us, many of us have tried to answer. CHTP has decided not to accept any of our answers. That's CHTP's burden, not ours. We did our part.
Essentially my point. I think that the most recent image posted on this thread is apt.
Old conduit pipes rust out. The connections to the light poles rust out over time. If there’s 2 feet of water covering the connectors water will make its way into the wiring. Short circuit will occur, wires are damaged. What most likely will happen is all the conduit will have to be replaced with pvc conduit. It’s really simple. Water on the overhead wires won’t arc them out, but if we have a flood all the way up the poles on the streets then I would hope Noah would have selected you to have a front row seat on his ARK. You are a plant from SNL.
I guess we're screwed then. No Memorial Park lights people. Sorry. This will never get fixed. It's a shame, it is such a nice place to walk and relax. Also, the fall and winter months are upon us, and we will have longer nights, so good luck using the park. I don't know, I've seen electrical conduit running by the bridges, are we sure the contractor working on the bridges didn't sever the wires? Hey, all I'm saying is I'd hate to see something bad happen in Memorial Park like Underhill field. On the other hand, vigil candles would qualify as historic lighting, I guess. Sad. Just sad to see how Maplewood in unkept despite the high taxes paid here. Sad.
While we're here, what's up with the right turn light at Millburn and Springfield Avenue westbound? It just turns red for no reason, and there's a No Turn On Red sign there. The right turn light goes red even when Springfield Avenue is green. There's no one crossing. There's no other traffic going that way. You're forced to stop for no reason, beautiful woman by your side or not.
This is a question for the town engineer. I would recommend giving that office a call.
Yey! The lights are on at Memorial Park! It only took about 10 days, so that's good. That's considered ludicrous speed by Maplewood standards. Thank you to the fine team of commentators on Maplewood online for making this happen.
Bad Ludicrous, bad dog. You do that by a standard and the light on top could go out.
Took me a few, but I’ll take a stab for those who don’t speak fluent DaveSchmidt, including myself.
“Bad dog” references standard, as in Standard poodle. “You do that by a standard” refers to a light standard, as in peeing on a light standard might short out the light, hence the scolding.
While we're here, what's up with the right turn light at Millburn and Springfield Avenue westbound? It just turns red for no reason, and there's a No Turn On Red sign there. The right turn light goes red even when Springfield Avenue is green. There's no one crossing. There's no other traffic going that way. You're forced to stop for no reason, beautiful woman by your side or not.
This is a question for the town engineer. I would recommend giving that office a call.
Just to double check, the light is on two county roads, but it's still the town engineer I should call, correct? Edited, as 124 is a state highway, not county.
Just to double check, the light is on two county roads, but it's still the town engineer I should call, correct? Edited, as 124 is a state highway, not county.
Good point. It might be the county engineer's office that handles this. That said, the township engineer would be a lot easier to reach and could probably give you the best contact information for the county, if the town couldn't follow up on this themselves.
What about traffic lights are they also connected overhead?
Community based Trophy Hunting Programme? And why does that even come up in a google search when the T and H words are not in the order of the acronym?