Based on the article in yesterdays' NY Times food section, good luck!
To make panettone — traditional panettone, coaxed from a stiff, naturally leavened starter — is to embark on a long, expensive and unpredictable journey, risking disaster at every turn.
Roy Shvartzapel, a baker in San Francisco, refers to the Italian bread as “the Mount Everest of baking.”
On the plus side, I think there are suggestions in the article's comments about where to look.
Yeah, I saw that article too.
nohero said:
Based on the article in yesterdays' NY Times food section, good luck!
To make panettone — traditional panettone, coaxed from a stiff, naturally leavened starter — is to embark on a long, expensive and unpredictable journey, risking disaster at every turn.
Roy Shvartzapel, a baker in San Francisco, refers to the Italian bread as “the Mount Everest of baking.”
On the plus side, I think there are suggestions in the article's comments about where to look.
I learned to make it at a holiday baking class at Kings. I'm not much of a baker, but I didn't find it very much more challenging than other yeasted breads, and it was MUCH better than the box kind (which I like).
A couple of commenters on the Times article mention Shoprite and Trader Joe's pannetone as good ones.
Thanks, but I give up at this:
400 gr natural yeast (the weight to be used will depend on the maturity of the yeast)
The maturity of the yeast? And what's a natural yeast? Aren't they all natural?
Anyway, my bread making skills kind of stop at my bread machine.
boomie said:
http://www.itchefs-gvci.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=258&Itemid=655
hmm, looks like Palazzone bakery in Wayne makes them.
https://www.facebook.com/Palazzone1960/videos/1563012770444879/
No one likes panettone, fresh or stale, its all the same. That's why everyone makes french toast and other dishes with it. Just buy it at the supermarket like everyone else.
Picked up a chocolate chip one in SR last year and it was awesome. Packaged, not fresh though.
Pannetone the bread is great. The choice of add ins is what sometimes spoils it. That chocolate chip and candied orange one from LA sounds great.
gee. I guess that proves it.
I guess that's why the stores are full of pannetone. Because everyone hates it.
eta: I read the first link. Literally one of the more stupid things I've ever read. Pannetone is dry? Yeah, bad ones I guess. Buy good ones instead. Problem solved.
boomie said:
https://lovinmalta.com/lifestyle/living-in-malta/pannettone-is-literally-the-worst-thing-on-the-face-of-the-earth
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/24/panettone-festive-delicacy-italian-monstrosity
https://thoughtcatalog.com/crissy-milazzo/2014/12/10-disgusting-foods-no-one-wants-to-see-at-your-stupid-holiday-party/
https://twitter.com/RadziwillLee/status/805276567475630080
personally I'm against chocolate chips in anything except for a cookie. I like my pannetone classic.
ska said:
Pannetone the bread is great. The choice of add ins is what sometimes spoils it. That chocolate chip and candied orange one from LA sounds great.
The Italian “sanitary bakery” in Orange used to make it around Christmas - very authentic
I'm gonna take a ride up to Palazzone tomorrow to get one. Looks like a good Italian store.
tpb said:
The Italian “sanitary bakery” in Orange used to make it around Christmas - very authentic
Is this place that small hole in the wall? Very, um, old looking? I've been there a couple of times in my search for lard bread.
boomie said:
No one likes panettone, fresh or stale, its all the same. That's why everyone makes french toast and other dishes with it. Just buy it at the supermarket like everyone else.
The MOL Quote of The Day!
Hear, Hear!
drummerboy said:
I'm gonna take a ride up to Palazzone tomorrow to get one. Looks like a good Italian store.
tpb said:
The Italian “sanitary bakery” in Orange used to make it around Christmas - very authentic
Is this place that small hole in the wall? Very, um, old looking? I've been there a couple of times in my search for lard bread.
They have packaged versions on sale now. Don't know if they still do their own...
-Ron Carter
who. Palazzone or the Orange place?
or are you talking about lard bread?
rcarter31 said:
drummerboy said:
I'm gonna take a ride up to Palazzone tomorrow to get one. Looks like a good Italian store.
tpb said:
The Italian “sanitary bakery” in Orange used to make it around Christmas - very authentic
Is this place that small hole in the wall? Very, um, old looking? I've been there a couple of times in my search for lard bread.
They have packaged versions on sale now. Don't know if they still do their own...
-Ron Carter
Yes, small hole in the wall - old but also “sanitary” ;-)
I haven’t been there in a while but was planning to go for some “Christmas panettone” soon.
drummerboy said:
I'm gonna take a ride up to Palazzone tomorrow to get one. Looks like a good Italian store.
tpb said:
The Italian “sanitary bakery” in Orange used to make it around Christmas - very authentic
Is this place that small hole in the wall? Very, um, old looking? I've been there a couple of times in my search for lard bread.
A person who does not love GOOD pannetone has no soul.
Well, not literally of course but, to quote the great Dave Skylark, "haters going hate, ainters going to ain't".
I used to buy one every Xmas to take to my parents in Kentucky. They loved it. They often toasted them and added butter. Not positive but I think I got it at Rocco's on Bleecker St in Manhattan. I was checking online. The one I used to get is called Pannetone Milano. Phil Serrani's Sanitary Bakery in Orange (essex st) also sells them. My husband says to call there because they don't always have them. I didn't like them as much as the one I used to get in the City.
tpb said:
The Italian “sanitary bakery” in Orange used to make it around Christmas - very authentic
I can confirm that Jeannie and Staff will have fresh baked usually during the week before Christmas!
Meet this wonderful woman in our own Hank Zona's Vimeo:
Best Regards,
Ron Carter
cool! thanks.
My visit to Palazzone was only semi-satisfactory. Turns out they do not bake their own, but import directly from Italy. I won't tell you the obscene amount I paid for it, but I have to admit it was quite good. But it wasn't freshly baked.
On top of that, I bought some pignoli cookies, and despite telling them twice that I wanted a half pound, they gave me a pound, which I didn't notice til I got home - and pignoli cookies are pretty darn expensive. Plus, they weren't even that good.
I won't be back.
rcarter31 said:
tpb said:
The Italian “sanitary bakery” in Orange used to make it around Christmas - very authentic
I can confirm that Jeannie and Staff will have fresh baked usually during the week before Christmas!
Meet this wonderful woman in our own Hank Zona's Vimeo:
Best Regards,
Ron Carter
This one from Biasetto looks good but $$$
https://www.gustiamo.com/traditional-panettone-by-pasticceria-biasetto/
yikes. 60 smackeroos! That's even more than I paid.
apple44 said:
This one from Biasetto looks good but $$$
https://www.gustiamo.com/traditional-panettone-by-pasticceria-biasetto/
The Trader Joe’s regular version ($5) is sweeter than I would like but it’s nice with coffee, especially toasted.
I wouldn’t dare try the chocolate chip. Not everything needs chocolate.
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I've been enjoying pannetone since I was a kid - but I just came to the realization yesterday that it must be possible to buy a fresh pannetone from some enterprising bakery. I don't recall ever seeing one in a bakery, but they must exist. And I imagine a good one must be a lot better than the ones you get in a box.
So where is this bakery? Anyone know?