The Rose Garden and White House happenings: What does 2024 portend?

Nothing escapes your keen sense of deduction.


Two birds of the same flock….


mtierney said:

Two birds of the same flock….

You have convinced me.  I will call tomorrow and demand that Hunter Biden resign from the Senate. 

That said, since we are talking about misdeeds, I am sure you want to share your thoughts about the court finding today that your party's likely nominee committed massive tax fraud.


Mtierney -- you keep claiming your eyesight is fine, but somehow you manage to never see what's going on in your party?


PVW said:

Mtierney -- you keep claiming your eyesight is fine, but somehow you manage to never see what's going on in your party?

of course, that would be the best angle to pursue if you, yourself, are blind to the deep do-do the Dems are dealing with — starting at the top.


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/26/bob-menendezs-defiance-could-be-an-electoral-nightmare-for-democrats-00118055

Where to begin? The WH dog, Commander, has taken a bite out of someone again. Oh, of course, Hunter is a handful, too…


mtierney said:

PVW said:

Mtierney -- you keep claiming your eyesight is fine, but somehow you manage to never see what's going on in your party?

of course, that would be the best angle to pursue if you, yourself, are blind to the deep do-do the Dems are dealing with — starting at the top.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/26/bob-menendezs-defiance-could-be-an-electoral-nightmare-for-democrats-00118055

It may have escaped your notice, but most Democrats are calling for Menendez to resign.

As far as your insistence of corruption starting at the top, I have to wonder why the nobody has been able to find real evidence of serious wrongdoing.

I know that in the information sources you think of as news, the absence of evidence is proof of a great conspiracy, but still you should give it some thought.


tjohn said:

 but still you should give it some thought.

She's doing the best she can.


tjohn said:

It may have escaped your notice, but most Democrats are calling for Menendez to resign.

It's hard to find Republicans who are calling for Menendez to resign.

Something about glass houses, I believe.


PVW said:

Mtierney -- you keep claiming your eyesight is fine, but somehow you manage to never see what's going on in your party?

An ophthalmologist will most likely diagnose the problem within a few minutes.


PVW said:

She's doing the best she can.

And, for a very long time! Over a decade-plus and over 41,000 posts, I am still minding the store on MOL.

Some actual good news, following years of excruciating hardships and fighting in Africa…

https://www.wsj.com/world/africa/somalia-militants-war-on-terror-b633ac07


mtierney said:

of course, that would be the best angle to pursue if you, yourself, are blind to the deep do-do the Dems are dealing with — starting at the top.

You might want to watch that potty mouth.  You don't want to be labeled a hypocrite.

cheese


mtierney said:

PVW said:

She's doing the best she can.

And, for a very long time! Over a decade-plus and over 41,000 posts, I am still minding the store on MOL.

Indeed -- you've been very consistent over the years. No matter the facts or circumstances, so long as some partisan angle can be found, your position is never in doubt.


mtierney said on October 17, 2012


A lot of confusion...

I think your 41,000 posts are best summarized by the first 4 words posted on this thread.


This headline made me think of various statements the OP has made:

Ruling Against Trump Cuts to the Heart of His Identity (NYT)

mtierney said:

DJT is a pragmatist, a business man, but not a politician.
mtierney said:
Here and elsewhere, I have said Trump is not a politician, but a business man
mtierney said:
Comparisons with Trump doesn’t really work. He was a very wealthy, private business man for many years before entering politics.

mtierney said:

We have a business man as president-

Some business man!


PVW said:

This headline made me think of various statements the OP has made:

Ruling Against Trump Cuts to the Heart of His Identity (NYT)

mtierney said:
Comparisons with Trump doesn’t really work. He was a very wealthy, private business man for many years before entering politics.

"He was a very wealthy, private business man for many years before entering politics", or so he said.  

One thing that we do know about him is that he is a pathological liar.


Somehow Mtierney thinks that a businessman is somehow noble and virtuous.

Or maybe she is one of those who conflates capitalism and Christianity.  Matthew 19:24 tells us what Jesus Christ might think of capitalism.


mtierney said:

PVW said:

Mtierney -- you keep claiming your eyesight is fine, but somehow you manage to never see what's going on in your party?

of course, that would be the best angle to pursue if you, yourself, are blind to the deep do-do the Dems are dealing with — starting at the top.

We've talked about not seeing things, but there's also the problem of seeing things that aren't there:

Yet the G.O.P. has struggled so far to link any of that activity to the president or get anywhere close to revealing proof of high crimes and misdemeanors. Despite their review of more than 12,000 pages of Hunter Biden’s bank records and 2,000 pages of suspicious activity reports, none of the material released so far shows any payment to his father.

House Republicans Eye Bribery and Abuse of Power Charges Against Biden (NYT)

Maybe the 12,001st page will have something?


From The Dispatch (about seeing things)…




The Trout in Robert Menendez’s Milk

Too many politicians feel no shame, much less express it.

Jonah Goldberg

Sep 27, 2023


“Some circumstantial evidence is very strong,” Henry Thoreau observed, “as when you find a trout in the milk.”

That line came to mind when I heard about the Robert Menendez allegations. You can come up with all sorts of explanations—maybe even some plausible ones—for why he had hundreds of thousands of dollars stashed in various jacket pockets in his closets. Where else would you keep walking around money? But those gold bars are not just literally but also figuratively, gold. When comedy writers really hit paydirt—a term from goldmining no less!—we say that’s gold! Well, having gold bars whose serial numbers indicated they’d been registered to one of his co-consprirators, well, ain’t dross. I’ve been trying to come up with more hilariously damning—albeit circumstantial!—evidence and the only thing I’ve been able to come up with is if he had a thick sheaf of German-bearer bonds stolen from the Nakatomi tower or maybe an envelope with the words, “Bribe money” on it.

I am enjoying watching Republicans insist that the—now suddenly legitimate—legal process be allowed to play out while Democrats insist that Menendez needs to resign immediately. Still, shorn of partisan and political motivations—which there are plenty of—both positions have significant merit. Of course, people deserve their day in court. The problem with all the familiar arguments on that front for Republicans is that it is taken as a given that Donald Trump shouldn’t even have to appear in court because the Department of Justice—which just indicted a prominent Democrat—is hopelessly partisan. Some of the usual suspects even contend that the DOJ is prosecuting Menendez solely “to create the appearance of impartiality so that they can continue their jihad against Donald Trump.”



mtierney said:

From The Dispatch (about seeing things)…




The Trout in Robert Menendez’s Milk

Too many politicians feel no shame, much less express it.

Jonah Goldberg

Sep 27, 2023

“Some circumstantial evidence is very strong,” Henry Thoreau observed, “as when you find a trout in the milk.”

That line came to mind when I heard about the Robert Menendez allegations. You can come up with all sorts of explanations—maybe even some plausible ones—for why he had hundreds of thousands of dollars stashed in various jacket pockets in his closets. Where else would you keep walking around money? But those gold bars are not just literally but also figuratively, gold. When comedy writers really hit paydirt—a term from goldmining no less!—we say that’s gold! Well, having gold bars whose serial numbers indicated they’d been registered to one of his co-consprirators, well, ain’t dross. I’ve been trying to come up with more hilariously damning—albeit circumstantial!—evidence and the only thing I’ve been able to come up with is if he had a thick sheaf of German-bearer bonds stolen from the Nakatomi tower or maybe an envelope with the words, “Bribe money” on it.

I am enjoying watching Republicans insist that the—now suddenly legitimate—legal process be allowed to play out while Democrats insist that Menendez needs to resign immediately. Still, shorn of partisan and political motivations—which there are plenty of—both positions have significant merit. Of course, people deserve their day in court. The problem with all the familiar arguments on that front for Republicans is that it is taken as a given that Donald Trump shouldn’t even have to appear in court because the Department of Justice—which just indicted a prominent Democrat—is hopelessly partisan. Some of the usual suspects even contend that the DOJ is prosecuting Menendez solely “to create the appearance of impartiality so that they can continue their jihad against Donald Trump.”

Again -- notice how Democrats, and Democratic-leaning independents, here on MOL and out IRL, are criticizing him? Can you give me an example of you criticizing corrupt Republicans? Why not?

ETA -- did you even read what you posted? How about that concluding paragraph?


mtierney said:

From The Dispatch (about seeing things)

ToTR, can we agree that politicians who have been indicted should resign and/or end their campaigns?


I saw this picture today and I couldn't help but laugh.  

Trump has always been demented but the apparent feebleness of the man, the complete lack of fashion sense and the pendulous man boobs just all came together to highlight the udder absurdity of our national situation.


 I saved the debate for later viewing.


mtierney said:

 I saved the debate for later viewing.

The first time Trump was impeached, there was a record of his phone call threatening the president of Ukraine. The second time there was, well, Jan 6. What do Republicans have as they launch an impeachment inquiry of Biden? Let's check in:

First Impeachment Hearing Yields No New Information on Biden (NYT)

The first hearing in House Republicans’ impeachment inquiry into President Biden featured their star witnesses testifying that they lacked proof that he committed impeachable offenses, multiple procedural skirmishes the G.O.P. majority nearly lost and, at times, nearly a dozen empty Republican seats.

What it did not include was any new information about Mr. Biden’s conduct — or any support for Republicans’ accusations that he had entered into corrupt overseas business deals.

Oof, that's embarrassing. Or it would be, if MAGAns were capable of being embarrassed, but the capacity for shame requires things like having standards and a conscience.


Comer is truly an incompetent.

But very entertaining.


PVW said:

mtierney said:

From The Dispatch (about seeing things)…




The Trout in Robert Menendez’s Milk

Too many politicians feel no shame, much less express it.

Jonah Goldberg

Sep 27, 2023

“Some circumstantial evidence is very strong,” Henry Thoreau observed, “as when you find a trout in the milk.”

That line came to mind when I heard about the Robert Menendez allegations. You can come up with all sorts of explanations—maybe even some plausible ones—for why he had hundreds of thousands of dollars stashed in various jacket pockets in his closets. Where else would you keep walking around money? But those gold bars are not just literally but also figuratively, gold. When comedy writers really hit paydirt—a term from goldmining no less!—we say that’s gold! Well, having gold bars whose serial numbers indicated they’d been registered to one of his co-consprirators, well, ain’t dross. I’ve been trying to come up with more hilariously damning—albeit circumstantial!—evidence and the only thing I’ve been able to come up with is if he had a thick sheaf of German-bearer bonds stolen from the Nakatomi tower or maybe an envelope with the words, “Bribe money” on it.

I am enjoying watching Republicans insist that the—now suddenly legitimate—legal process be allowed to play out while Democrats insist that Menendez needs to resign immediately. Still, shorn of partisan and political motivations—which there are plenty of—both positions have significant merit. Of course, people deserve their day in court. The problem with all the familiar arguments on that front for Republicans is that it is taken as a given that Donald Trump shouldn’t even have to appear in court because the Department of Justice—which just indicted a prominent Democrat—is hopelessly partisan. Some of the usual suspects even contend that the DOJ is prosecuting Menendez solely “to create the appearance of impartiality so that they can continue their jihad against Donald Trump.”

Again -- notice how Democrats, and Democratic-leaning independents, here on MOL and out IRL, are criticizing him? Can you give me an example of you criticizing corrupt Republicans? Why not?

ETA -- did you even read what you posted? How about that concluding paragraph?

She doesn't read anything she posts or if she reads it can't understand it.


@dave…..if I were an over-sensitive, or a less thick-skinned, 91-1/2 year old conservative, I might view that remark as an anti-old woman slur. I might even expect an apology.

Or maybe, your “dummy” allegation/accusation description of  me comes  from an individual — however proprietary he may be,  who thinks a public forum should be a party room for only a political attuned  Boys Club? How boring would that be?


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4228960-menendez-case-magnifies-a-senate-powerbrokers-transactional-style/


Bells for Feinstein.  

Her innate conservatism was never a good fit for progressive California but her sustained electoral success was a tribute to the power of special interest money.  That said, after 3 long decades, it will be hard to imagine the Senate without her.

It will be interesting to see who Newsome appoints to replace her, he had pledged to appoint a black woman who many people assumed would be the 77 year old Barbara Lee but, over the weekend, he said that he would not appoint anyone who was running for the seat in 2024 (which would exclude Lee).


mtierney said:

@dave…..if I were an over-sensitive, or a less thick-skinned, 91-1/2 year old conservative, I might view that remark as an anti-old woman slur. I might even expect an apology.


Considering the source of the photo, I assume they are  bird droppings? A really, really big bird?


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