The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

BG9 said:

In the video of from BBC story he said "I am the chosen one."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49423968

Chosen by Putin

Strictly as a community service to those of us with Alexa, et al, devices, I submit this link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/technology/personaltech/alexa-siri-google-assistant-listen.html

mtierney said:

Strictly as a community service to those of us with Alexa, et al, devices, I submit this link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/technology/personaltech/alexa-siri-google-assistant-listen.html

I seriously doubt that Bezos or Brin or any of the heads of these companies use any of these devices in their own homes.

nohero said:

mtierney said:

Strictly as a community service to those of us with Alexa, et al, devices, I submit this link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/technology/personaltech/alexa-siri-google-assistant-listen.html

I seriously doubt that Bezos or Brin or any of the heads of these companies use any of these devices in their own homes.

They'd have to be crazy. No way would they enable any employee or contractor to listen in on their private conversations.

I suspect the same for many of their techies. You work there, you don't want some Joe in another group to listen in what you say at home. They may own out of "loyalty" but I suspect they are located located in out of the way areas.

BG9 said:

They'd have to be crazy. No way would they enable any employee or contractor to listen in on their private conversations.

I suspect the same for many of their techies. You work there, you don't want some Joe in another group to listen in what you say at home. They may own out of "loyalty" but I suspect they are located located in out of the way areas.

Anyone who uses one of these devices or services is crazy, for the exact same reason as to why no one at Apple, Amazon, or Google would use them. If you think that the privacy controls as suggested in the NYT article actually protect your privacy you are completely and utterly mad. 

basil said:

BG9 said:

They'd have to be crazy. No way would they enable any employee or contractor to listen in on their private conversations.

I suspect the same for many of their techies. You work there, you don't want some Joe in another group to listen in what you say at home. They may own out of "loyalty" but I suspect they are located located in out of the way areas.

Anyone who uses one of these devices or services is crazy, for the exact same reason as to why no one at Apple, Amazon, or Google would use them. If you think that the privacy controls as suggested in the NYT article actually protect your privacy you are completely and utterly mad. 

who cares what they hear me say?  It's way too much data for anyone to make sense of.

Hope you are right, dB, I talk to my cat a lot.

drummerboy said:

who cares what they hear me say?  It's way too much data for anyone to make sense of.

That's why they have AI to filter through all this data automatically. And once the machine decided that you have nothing interesting to say, it will downgrade your value as an advertising target and your services will become more expensive. Or they will say: this person is of no use to us, let's sell his data and control of his computer to the russians. You should never ever use one of these services. They reveal much more about you than you think.

You can expect this if Trump is re-elected:

“I hope in a second term, he is interested [the deficit],” Mr. Thune said of Mr. Trump. “With his leadership, I think we could start dealing with that crisis. And it is a crisis.” ...

Reducing the costs of Social Security, Medicare and other contributors to the debt is “usually best done during divided government,” said Senator John Barrasso, Republican of Wyoming. “We’ve brought it up with President Trump, who has talked about it being a second-term project.”

The thoughts from these GOP senators match leaks from the White House, where aides say Trump has told them to prepare sweeping budget cuts for a second term, as The Washington Post reported last month.

Yes, the deficit then will be labeled a crisis. A crisis requiring the cutting of debt contributors like Social Security and Medicare.

Funny. And here I thought the big debt contributor was Trump's tax cut, a tax cut for corporations and 1 percenters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/23/trump-gop-want-you-know-theyre-really-seriously-thinking-about-budget-cutting-few-years/

basil said:

That's why they have AI to filter through all this data automatically. And once the machine decided that you have nothing interesting to say, it will downgrade your value as an advertising target and your services will become more expensive. Or they will say: this person is of no use to us, let's sell his data and control of his computer to the russians. You should never ever use one of these services. They reveal much more about you than you think.

They don't even need AI. Its foolish to assume that messages are not logged with the device identifier. 

Which is why those in the know never put themselves in the position to allow sensitive recordings that can be retrieved by employees, contractors or government.

BG9 said:

Yes, the deficit then will be labeled a crisis. A crisis requiring the cutting of debt contributors like Social Security and Medicare.

Funny. And here I thought the big debt contributor was Trump's tax cut, a tax cut for corporations and 1 percenters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/23/trump-gop-want-you-know-theyre-really-seriously-thinking-about-budget-cutting-few-years/

 It’s the 3 step plan. Cut taxes, raise the deficit, then cut social programs. Everyone knew this was the plan, even before this came out.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/blowing-up-the-deficit-is-part-of-the-plan/548720/

This was news to me, but then, I have been streaming and reading  a lot this summer...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/politics/stephanie-grisham-press-secretary.html

mtierney said:

This was news to me, but then, I have been streaming and reading  a lot this summer...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/politics/stephanie-grisham-press-secretary.html

 it's hard for anyone to keep up with all the coming and going in the White House 

mtierney said:

This was news to me, but then, I have been streaming and reading  a lot this summer...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/politics/stephanie-grisham-press-secretary.html

You didn't pick this up from one of the WH Press Briefings?

W.

ridski said:

 It’s the 3 step plan. Cut taxes, raise the deficit, then cut social programs. Everyone knew this was the plan, even before this came out.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/blowing-up-the-deficit-is-part-of-the-plan/548720/

I think anyone with the intelligence of at least a potato realized that years ago.

But finally, they may realize the implementation of their dream. 

ridski said:

W.

If it causes liberal tears, they'll sit in the dark forever.

ml1 said:

If it causes liberal tears, they'll sit in the dark forever.

 Smashing all the light bulbs to own the libs.

ridski said:

 Smashing all the light bulbs to own the libs.

 Smashing CFL bulbs for "freedom."

ml1 said:

 Smashing CFL bulbs for "freedom."

 Actually, if there's one thing I'm glad that's phasing away it's those fricking CFL bulbs.

ridski said:

 Actually, if there's one thing I'm glad that's phasing away it's those fricking CFL bulbs.

there's a lot to like about an LED that's going to last 20 years.  It's a little weird (in a good way) when I put in a light bulb now and realize we're going to move out of the house before I ever have to change it again.  Couldn't say that about CFLs -- they never lasted as long as predicted.

In my experience LED bulbs don't last as long as predicted either. Maybe I have bad electricity.

drummerboy said:

In my experience LED bulbs don't last as long as predicted either. Maybe I have bad electricity.

 I won't know for quite some time if they won't, given that they're predicted for 20 years.  Haven't had to replace one yet though.  A few of them are going on about 5 years.

ml1 said:

there's a lot to like about an LED that's going to last 20 years.  It's a little weird (in a good way) when I put in a light bulb now and realize we're going to move out of the house before I ever have to change it again.  Couldn't say that about CFLs -- they never lasted as long as predicted.

 I've definitely gone through more CFL bulbs than incandescents. Some I've removed for a friend, but they definitely burned out way too fast in my house.

So, now the Fed Chairman, Trump's appointee is an Enemy of the United States (Trump). 

We're getting to have a pretty large enemies list.

drummerboy said:

In my experience LED bulbs don't last as long as predicted either. Maybe I have bad electricity.

How does one test for bad electricity?

drummerboy said:

In my experience LED bulbs don't last as long as predicted either. Maybe I have bad electricity.

 Mine too. But still worth using.

Let be light..

Meanwhile, there is...

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/23/slavery-america-not-begin-1619-things-nyts-project-gets-wrong/

mtierney said:

Let be light..

Meanwhile, there is...

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/23/slavery-america-not-begin-1619-things-nyts-project-gets-wrong/

 thanks for the daily dose of idiocy.

I was always worried that people would find the Federalist funnier than Monty Python