UK police charge two Russians in Salisbury Novichok poisoning

"I’d be curious to know what kind of work these two buddies do in RU to afford trips to UK for 132m of awe."

https://twitter.com/Puppet_Prince_/status/1040210643062804481


They remind me of the two guys from In Bruges.  Absolutely bizarre story.  I love that they described their business as a "medium sized business".

I was in Salisbury a few months before they were there - it's a nice town, but going back a second day (2-3 hour trip) to see the steeple and a clock is beyond wacky.  At least show a pattern that you love old clocks or something.   And why on earth not stay in Salisbury if that was your primary destination of the trip?  For people who sound like they've travelled quite a bit - they are pretty dumb.


They won't be around long. 


paulsurovell said:
By the way there was a snowstorm in Salisbury: http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/16057914.LIVE__Snow_in_Salisbury_-_weather_and_travel_updates__pictures_and_video/




 Excuse me for saying this, but they look like they could be a couple of the Penguin's henchmen on the old "Batman".

Or maybe Mr. Freeze, with the Russian accents.


cramer said:
Someone's been following Craig Murray.  

 Two people are following Craig Murray.


Only about the Skirpals to see what his latest conspiracy theory is. 


Here's the defense for their trip to Salisbury:



paulsurovell said:


cramer said:
Someone's been following Craig Murray.  
 Two people are following Craig Murray.

 I follow Craig Murray.  Here is one of his latest tweets:

https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/104018858986959667


nan said:


paulsurovell said:

cramer said:
Someone's been following Craig Murray.  
 Two people are following Craig Murray.
 I follow Craig Murray.  Here is one of his latest tweets:
https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/104018858986959667

Another nutjob - all of the replies are pretty spot on!  

Why do you follow him?  Has he exposed anything?


Murray blames Israel:

“Israel has the nerve agents. Israel has Mossad which is extremely skilled at foreign assassinations. Theresa May claimed Russian propensity to assassinate abroad as a specific reason to believe Russia did it. Well Mossad has an even greater propensity to assassinate abroad. And while I am struggling to see a Russian motive for damaging its own international reputation so grieviously, Israel has a clear motivation for damaging the Russian reputation so grieviously. Russian action in Syria has undermined the Israeli position in Syria and Lebanon in a fundamental way, and Israel has every motive for damaging Russia’s international position by an attack aiming to leave the blame on Russia.”


jamie said:


nan said:

paulsurovell said:

cramer said:
Someone's been following Craig Murray.  
 Two people are following Craig Murray.
 I follow Craig Murray.  Here is one of his latest tweets:
https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/104018858986959667
Another nutjob - all of the replies are pretty spot on!  
Why do you follow him?  Has he exposed anything?

 He's big on human rights; so I'm sure the press depicts him as a nutjob.   The neocons hate him and the MSM supports the neocons. He knows a lot about what's going on in Israel, so if he has a theory I would not just wave it off. I posted his comments on the Skripal suspects last week.  He got one thing wrong and he admitted it but had a bunch of other comments that were worthwhile. 

Also, he wrote an interesting sounding book called  Sikunder Burnes: Master of the Great Game (2016) that Randy Credico carried under his arm when he went to testify for the Muller investigation last week:

https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1038129396274659328


Do you and Paul have more faith in him over CCTV images and British intelligence?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/13/spy-poisoning-suspects-interview-an-insult-to-publics-intelligence

Are you honestly buying their story?  Vacation?  Seriously?  


Oh, and here is Craig Murray's comments on the interview:

The Strange Russian Alibi

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/09/the-strange-russian-alibi/


Nan believes it. 

jamie said:
Murray blames Israel:
“Israel has the nerve agents. Israel has Mossad which is extremely skilled at foreign assassinations. Theresa May claimed Russian propensity to assassinate abroad as a specific reason to believe Russia did it. Well Mossad has an even greater propensity to assassinate abroad. And while I am struggling to see a Russian motive for damaging its own international reputation so grieviously, Israel has a clear motivation for damaging the Russian reputation so grieviously. Russian action in Syria has undermined the Israeli position in Syria and Lebanon in a fundamental way, and Israel has every motive for damaging Russia’s international position by an attack aiming to leave the blame on Russia.”

 


The weather was terrible and who knows how polonium behaves at low temperatures?


jamie said:
Murray blames Israel:
“Israel has the nerve agents. Israel has Mossad which is extremely skilled at foreign assassinations. Theresa May claimed Russian propensity to assassinate abroad as a specific reason to believe Russia did it. Well Mossad has an even greater propensity to assassinate abroad. And while I am struggling to see a Russian motive for damaging its own international reputation so grieviously, Israel has a clear motivation for damaging the Russian reputation so grieviously. Russian action in Syria has undermined the Israeli position in Syria and Lebanon in a fundamental way, and Israel has every motive for damaging Russia’s international position by an attack aiming to leave the blame on Russia.”

 The "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" were concocted in Russia, also.


Assigned reading for paul and nan:   Umberto Eco's The Prague Cemetery


dave said:
Assigned reading for paul and nan:   Umberto Eco's The Prague Cemetery

 I'm not taking on any more assignments until you and Jamie watch Ukraine on Fire. It's your turn--I watched that CIA movie you liked.


nan said:


dave said:
Assigned reading for paul and nan:   Umberto Eco's The Prague Cemetery
 I'm not taking on any more assignments until you and Jamie watch Ukraine on Fire. It's your turn--I watched that CIA movie you liked.

 Who the F are you to make such demands. People have far more important things to do with their lives than dance to your demented drummer. I may very well get banned for this but you are an absolute, tinfoil wearing nutcase, and should probably be committed, along with your russkie-loving buddy paulie-one-note.


nan said:


dave said:
Assigned reading for paul and nan:   Umberto Eco's The Prague Cemetery
 I'm not taking on any more assignments until you and Jamie watch Ukraine on Fire. It's your turn--I watched that CIA movie you liked.

 I saw the first 30 minutes - major Russian propaganda so far, I’ll get back to the rest of it one of these weeks.


Dennis_Seelbach said:


nan said:

dave said:
Assigned reading for paul and nan:   Umberto Eco's The Prague Cemetery
 I'm not taking on any more assignments until you and Jamie watch Ukraine on Fire. It's your turn--I watched that CIA movie you liked.
 Who the F are you to make such demands. People have far more important things to do with their lives than dance to your demented drummer. I may very well get banned for this but you are an absolute, tinfoil wearing nutcase, and should probably be committed, along with your russkie-loving buddy paulie-one-note.

Jaime asked me to watch a movie and I did.  Now Dave wants me to read a book.  That's going to take me a lot longer than it will take them to watch a movie that is under two hours.  Not sure how you feel that justifies that intense personal attack, but I'm sure you have your reasons. I do think you should get banned for that, BTW.  MOL used to ban people for personal attacks.  


jamie said:


nan said:

dave said:
Assigned reading for paul and nan:   Umberto Eco's The Prague Cemetery
 I'm not taking on any more assignments until you and Jamie watch Ukraine on Fire. It's your turn--I watched that CIA movie you liked.
 I saw the first 30 minutes - major Russian propaganda so far, I’ll get back to the rest of it one of these weeks.

 The film opens with stock footage from the 2004 Orange Revolution and then goes to the history of Ukraine.  What was the "major Russian propaganda" in the first 30 minutes?

If anyone is wondering what we are talking about it is this Oliver Stone film:



Additional footage of definitely not skripal poisoners just posted.

https://goo.gl/images/3gqMco


The documentary makes out the entire Orange revolution as nazis taking over the government when it was a much broader group of regular citizens taking back the nation from a fraudulent election rigged by Russia (as called out by the UN).   Would you lump mainstream democrats together with Antifa?   Or mainstream republicans with KKK members?  Then why would you believe a simplistic piece of propaganda trash like this?


ridski said:
Additional footage of definitely not skripal poisoners just posted.
https://goo.gl/images/3gqMco

Didn't they mention stopping at a local cafe, as well?   CCTV footage... (nsfw)



dave said:
The documentary makes out the entire Orange revolution as nazis taking over the government when it was a much broader group of regular citizens taking back the nation from a fraudulent election rigged by Russia (as called out by the UN).   Would you lump mainstream democrats together with Antifa?   Or mainstream republicans with KKK members?  Then why would you believe a simplistic piece of propaganda trash like this?

 Do you have a source for your UN allegation?

To the contrary, BBC wrote:

International observers have said the February poll was conducted fairly.

And while the Orange revolution was made up primarily of pro-democracy members, neo-nazis played a key role and now occupy strategic positions in the Ukrainian government. Ukraine has a neo-nazi problem:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5240624,00.html

https://forward.com/opinion/401518/violent-anti-semitism-is-gripping-ukraine-and-the-government-is-standing/


cramer said:
Nan believes it. 
jamie said:
Murray blames Israel:
“Israel has the nerve agents. Israel has Mossad which is extremely skilled at foreign assassinations. Theresa May claimed Russian propensity to assassinate abroad as a specific reason to believe Russia did it. Well Mossad has an even greater propensity to assassinate abroad. And while I am struggling to see a Russian motive for damaging its own international reputation so grieviously, Israel has a clear motivation for damaging the Russian reputation so grieviously. Russian action in Syria has undermined the Israeli position in Syria and Lebanon in a fundamental way, and Israel has every motive for damaging Russia’s international position by an attack aiming to leave the blame on Russia.”
 

 He doesn't blame Israel, he challenges speculation that Russia carried out the attack with alternative speculation that Israel had the means, a greater motive than Russia and a track record of assassinations.


jamie said:
Do you and Paul have more faith in him over CCTV images and British intelligence?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/13/spy-poisoning-suspects-interview-an-insult-to-publics-intelligence
Are you honestly buying their story?  Vacation?  Seriously?  

 What do the CCTV images show?

And what evidence has British intelligence produced?


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