The most important act of the "Resistance" so far / and now the 2d-most important act
By the way, why shouldn't there be protests at a National Convention? What better place for a protest?
Conventions used to be loud, raucous and contentious and FUN. Now they are staged pep rallies.
Klinker said:
In the case of Ford and Reagan you had a conservative refusing to campaign for a moderate. Obama and Clinton were, more or less, from the same branch of the Democrat Party. Plus, Clinton needed something from Obama.
And there was Bernie (before) the convention and at the convention (short version) and during the campaign.
paulsurovell said:
Klinker said:
In the case of Ford and Reagan you had a conservative refusing to campaign for a moderate. Obama and Clinton were, more or less, from the same branch of the Democrat Party. Plus, Clinton needed something from Obama.
And there was Bernie (before) the convention and at the convention (short version) and during the campaign.
Right. Some how that always gets lost when the Corporate Democrats get into a good whine.
Klinker said:
paulsurovell said:Right. Some how that always gets lost when the Corporate Democrats get into a good whine.
Klinker said:
In the case of Ford and Reagan you had a conservative refusing to campaign for a moderate. Obama and Clinton were, more or less, from the same branch of the Democrat Party. Plus, Clinton needed something from Obama.
And there was Bernie (before) the convention and at the convention (short version) and during the campaign.
The fact that Bernie brought millions of young people into the political process, the vast majority of whom voted for Hillary doesn't matter when you're blaming everything except for the candidate and her campaign, including Bernie.
Mayor Bill De Blasio announces plan to divest $5 billion oil and gas investments and to join lawsuit against oil and gas companies for their contributions to climate change.
After the threat of nuclear war, climate change represents the biggest existential threat to humanity and combating Trump policies that worsen both threats should be the first and second priorities of the Resistance.
And here's encouraging support for clean energy from General Motors:
do you have some data to back up this contention?
paulsurovell said:
The fact that Bernie brought millions of young people into the political process, the vast majority of whom voted for Hillary doesn't matter when you're blaming everything except for the candidate and her campaign, including Bernie.
author said:
cribed as a "police riot" outside. Don't recall how much blame was cast on the protesters.
As for "the whole world is watching," my recollection is that that was about the Chicago police tactics, not so much about the convention itself. Though again, long ago and far away. I just remember a couple of people crying at the office the next day.
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The events of the Dem convention of 1968 led to the trial of the Chicago 7......originally 8 but Bobby Seele
Don't recall if it was a Jury trial or Judge Hoffman declared the sentence> Abbie used to taunt him in Yiddish
which would irk him no end. A
Didn't you know that Abbie was Judge Hoffman's illegitimate son.
drummerboy said:
do you have some to back up this contention?
paulsurovell said:
The fact that Bernie brought millions of young people into the political process, the vast majority of whom voted for Hillary doesn't matter when you're blaming everything except for the candidate and her campaign, including Bernie.
Blaming the candidate herself ... Does anyone know what her platform was besides going onto her website to read what her platform was. No one bothered to read it.
O.T.O.H., you knew what Trump's platform was. You knew what Bernie's was.
her stump speeches got into the details of her proposals quite a bit. Instead of reporting on that, the press was more interested in Trump and her emails, unfortunately. When they did report on it, the press complained that she gave long boring speeches with too many details.
Not exactly sure what more she could have done.
Formerlyjerseyjack said:
drummerboy said:
do you have some to back up this contention?
paulsurovell said:
The fact that Bernie brought millions of young people into the political process, the vast majority of whom voted for Hillary doesn't matter when you're blaming everything except for the candidate and her campaign, including Bernie.
Blaming the candidate herself ... Does anyone know what her platform was besides going onto her website to read what her platform was. No one bothered to read it.
O.T.O.H., you knew what Trump's platform was. You knew what Bernie's was.
Formerlyjerseyjack said:
drummerboy said:
do you have some to back up this contention?
paulsurovell said:
The fact that Bernie brought millions of young people into the political process, the vast majority of whom voted for Hillary doesn't matter when you're blaming everything except for the candidate and her campaign, including Bernie.
Blaming the candidate herself ... Does anyone know what her platform was besides going onto her website to read what her platform was. No one bothered to read it.
O.T.O.H., you knew what Trump's platform was. You knew what Bernie's was.
Trump: Wall. MAGA.
We're a year into Trump's presidency and America is a shithole compared to Norway and there's no wall. I never did and still don't know what his platform was.
"After the threat of nuclear war, climate change represents the biggest existential threat to humanity and combating Trump policies that worsen both threats should be the first and second priorities of the Resistance." That's nice. During the 2016, the "biggest threat" and "first priority" seemed to be Hillary Clinton and her emails, at least from reading posts here at that time.
Since this thread was revived, I'll revive my comment from back in November, the day this thread was started.
South_Mountaineer said:
paulsurovell said:Seriously, what kind of a response is "what are YOU doing?" Why don't you ask all those folks who DIDN'T vote for Hillary, so there wouldn't have to be a "Resistance" against Trump?
What actions of "Resistance" have you carried out?
drummerboy said:
do you have some data to back up this contention?
paulsurovell said:
The fact that Bernie brought millions of young people into the political process, the vast majority of whom voted for Hillary doesn't matter when you're blaming everything except for the candidate and her campaign, including Bernie.
This out-of-context troll exceeds the statute of limitations.
What's your reaction to De Blasio's divestment/lawsuit against big oil?
Formerlyjerseyjack said:
drummerboy said:
do you have some to back up this contention?
paulsurovell said:
The fact that Bernie brought millions of young people into the political process, the vast majority of whom voted for Hillary doesn't matter when you're blaming everything except for the candidate and her campaign, including Bernie.
Blaming the candidate herself ... Does anyone know what her platform was besides going onto her website to read what her platform was. No one bothered to read it.
O.T.O.H., you knew what Trump's platform was. You knew what Bernie's was.
No, I DON’T know what tRump’s platform was (or is)...elucidate please!
It was a jury trial. The defendants were actually found Not Guilty of Conspiracy but guilty of specific acts of, as I remember, crossing State lines to engage in a riot. Also I believe some of the defendants and even the lawyers got long prison sentences for Contempt. All convictions were eventually overturned. Bobby Seale was never put on trial.