The closest thing to a live lynch mob you're likely to ever see.

Robert_Casotto said:

The purveyors of the Iraq War are indeed war criminals.  Those who voted for it were either complicit or grossly negligent.   Those who caused the current Mid East situation are merely grossly incompetent.  

I understand that you believe that. Just as strongly as some believe that Clinton's actions were criminal. No one was able to make a case to prosecute either. But neither side will accept that. So you are all equivalent.

Because Trump is a political idiot.

bramzzoinks said:

Yes but not exactly a revelation. Putin would likely be the first foreign leader Trump meets with if somehow he is elected.

It will be a Christie --> Trump --> Putin reach-around train. 

author said:

I have made it plain my dislike for Hillary..........

But she has worked long and hard for the betterment of the country

She has worked for the finer things in life

Thank you for saying this.  When I look at Hillary Clinton, I can discern core beliefs with regard to domestic policies.  When I look at Trump, I can see no such core beliefs.

If the NY Times is to be believed Trump has no intention of actually being the president.  That's going to be the VPs job and he'll just go around Making American Great Again.  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html?_r=0

I think that that is ridiculous. I picture Trump as more of a micro-manager. But it's a very good line of attack for the Dems.

LOST said:

I think that that is ridiculous. I picture Trump as more of a micro-manager. But it's a very good line of attack for the Dems.

He's not at all a micromanager. He hates the details. Doesn't have the patience for those pesky details.

Anyone read this?

Donald Trump's Ghostwriter Tells All

From the article:

“I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

It's not what we "believe." Both Bush and Cheney, as well as other members of their administration, proudly admitted ordering torture. Just because no one ever decided to pursue a prosecution doesn't make them innocent of war crimes.

Your analogy is faulty  

bramzzoinks said:

Robert_Casotto said:

The purveyors of the Iraq War are indeed war criminals.  Those who voted for it were either complicit or grossly negligent.   Those who caused the current Mid East situation are merely grossly incompetent.  

I understand that you believe that. Just as strongly as some believe that Clinton's actions were criminal. No one was able to make a case to prosecute either. But neither side will accept that. So you are all equivalent.

  Goethe one, Stoughton!

ice said:

Um, comparing a predictable bit of political theatrics at a convention to witnessing a live lynching is, well, a little hyperbolic, if not downright demeaning to those who have actually witnessed or been the victim of such a horror.

But I would expect nothing else from DB.  Always such a class act.

I admit I would have preferred to have written "live lynch mob" rather than "lynching" but I still can't figure out how to edit a thread title.

However, to call this a "predictable bit of political theatrics" when actually it has no precedent and is something more commonly found in banana republics, is all that we would expect from you. You're a conservative, after all.

Talk about class.

Uh, yeah.  Using a call-and-response with a large enthusiastic Republican crowd to hammer on the theme that Hillary should have been indicted and convicted in the email fiasco was completely unpredictable.   You must be shocked every time Paul McCartney encourages his audiences to sing along with Hey Jude.

To update the title, I believe you just go to the opening post and click on 'edit'.

But even if you change it, comparing Christie's call and response to a 'lynch mob' is still kind of absurd, although I'd agree it's a more commonly used and perhaps somewhat less offensive exaggeration.

dave23 said:

bramzzoinks said:

Yet you all have no problem calling Bush and Chaney war criminals.

Shows how politics has just become a game of which side are you on.

Politics has always been a game of which side you are on. 

Speaking of sides, the Trump-led Republicans are skewing to the side of Putin. 

Politics is not a game for me.  I have strongly held beliefs and principles.  That is why, I am leaning towards the libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. 

Somehow Christie just seems like an odd choice for a person to be wondering about "innocent or guilty". 

While 8 Congressional investigations could not find anything she was "guilty" of (despite really REALLY wanting to), and the FBI investigated and did not find that any crime was committed... pretty much everyone surrounding Christie is pleading guity and being indicted of ACTUAL crimes.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/05/christie_bridge_scandal_a_timeline_of_events_1.html

"...A former top official of the Port Authority, David Wildstein, pleaded guilty Friday to conspiracy and admitted the 2013 lane closings at the George Washington Bridge were to punish the Fort Lee mayor for not endorsing Gov. Chris Christie's re-election bid.
Christie's former deputy chief of staff, Bridget Anne Kelly, and the Port Authority's former deputy executive director, Bill Baroni, were also indicted as part of the conspiracy..."

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/18/chris_christies_week_from_hell_five_of_the_governors_appointees_have_drawn_the_attention_of_federal_prosecutors_over_corruption_allegations/

"...On the same day that he was in the final throes of the Trump VP search, one of his closest political allies David Samson, was standing before a federal judge pleading guilty to one count of bribery for shaking down United Airlines in his role as chairman of the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, a position to which Christie appointed him.

"Samson’s guilty plea, and the charging the same day of Jamie Fox, Christie’s former transportation commissioner, brings to five the number of people that  Christie picked for high-level positions became the focus of federal prosecutors over allegations of public corruption."

Plus... REALLY? He's going to go after Hillary about using private email for government business? Really?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/chris-christie-personal-email-work-bridgegate-article-1.2693601

RealityForAll said:
Politics is not a game for me.  I have strongly held beliefs and principles.  That is why, I am leaning towards the libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. 

Lots of us have strongly held beliefs and principles, which is why we wouldn't cast a vote for a third-party candidate in this Presidential election - which vote would only help Donald Trump.

ice said:

Uh, yeah.  Using a call-and-response with a large enthusiastic Republican crowd to hammer on the theme that Hillary should have been indicted and convicted in the email fiasco was completely unpredictable.   You must be shocked every time Paul McCartney encourages his audiences to sing along with Hey Jude.

To update the title, I believe you just go to the opening post and click on 'edit'.

But even if you change it, comparing Christie's call and response to a 'lynch mob' is still kind of absurd, although I'd agree it's a more commonly used and perhaps somewhat less offensive exaggeration.

are you deliberately being obtuse, or are you stupid?

plus your instructions for editing the title are wrong.

nohero said:

RealityForAll said:
Politics is not a game for me.  I have strongly held beliefs and principles.  That is why, I am leaning towards the libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. 

Lots of us have strongly held beliefs and principles, which is why we wouldn't cast a vote for a third-party candidate in this Presidential election - which vote would only help Donald Trump.

yeah, reality, apparently it IS a game, because you don't actually seem to care about trying to affect the election in a way that moves the line in your preferred direction.

drummerboy said:

plus your instructions for editing the title are wrong.

Find your thread on the discussion menu. There should be an Edit link below and to the right of your icon. (ETA: Visible from the menu; don't open the thread itself.) Click it, and you should be able to change your title from there.

RealityForAll said:

dave23 said:

bramzzoinks said:

Yet you all have no problem calling Bush and Chaney war criminals.

Shows how politics has just become a game of which side are you on.

Politics has always been a game of which side you are on. 

Speaking of sides, the Trump-led Republicans are skewing to the side of Putin. 

Politics is not a game for me.  I have strongly held beliefs and principles.  That is why, I am leaning towards the libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. 

There is no policy without politics. And there are lots of people with strongly held beliefs and principles (including me!). But I also know that I'm not the only person on the planet and that others may have strongly held beliefs and principles that do not align with mine.

Yet I find the gumption to participate rather than sit on the sidelines.

shoshannah said:

LOST said:

I think that that is ridiculous. I picture Trump as more of a micro-manager. But it's a very good line of attack for the Dems.

He's not at all a micromanager. He hates the details. Doesn't have the patience for those pesky details.

Anyone read this?

Donald Trump's Ghostwriter Tells All

From the article:

“I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

+10000

dave23 said:

RealityForAll said:

dave23 said:

bramzzoinks said:

Yet you all have no problem calling Bush and Chaney war criminals.

Shows how politics has just become a game of which side are you on.

Politics has always been a game of which side you are on. 

Speaking of sides, the Trump-led Republicans are skewing to the side of Putin. 

Politics is not a game for me.  I have strongly held beliefs and principles.  That is why, I am leaning towards the libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. 

There is no policy without politics. And there are lots of people with strongly held beliefs and principles (including me!). But I also know that I'm not the only person on the planet and that others may have strongly held beliefs and principles that do not align with mine.

Yet I find the gumption to participate rather than sit on the sidelines.

yeah, the general denigration of "politics" as a useful endeavor is one of our stupider memes. Politics is the essence of getting things done when you have a broadly elected government.

DaveSchmidt said:

drummerboy said:

plus your instructions for editing the title are wrong.

Find your thread on the discussion menu. There should be an Edit link below and to the right of your icon. (ETA: Visible from the menu; don't open the thread itself.) Click it, and you should be able to change your title from there.

dankegrazie

nohero said:

RealityForAll said:
Politics is not a game for me.  I have strongly held beliefs and principles.  That is why, I am leaning towards the libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. 

Lots of us have strongly held beliefs and principles, which is why we wouldn't cast a vote for a third-party candidate in this Presidential election - which vote would only help Donald Trump.

I have strongly held principles and beliefs and I also enjoy the game,

dave23 said:

 

There is no policy without politics. And there are lots of people with strongly held beliefs and principles (including me!). But I also know that I'm not the only person on the planet and that others may have strongly held beliefs and principles that do not align with mine.

Yet I find the gumption to participate rather than sit on the sidelines.

Exactly!

And this.

drummerboy said:

yeah, the general denigration of "politics" as a useful endeavor is one of our stupider memes. Politics is the essence of getting things done when you have a broadly elected government.