Pope Francis, Catholics, and Christians in the news worldwide

Klinker said:
In Poland, like the US, the Church hierarchy actively worked to facilitate the attacks upon children.
In a report released during the Vatican meeting, Don’t Be Afraid listed 24 Polish bishops who, it said, failed to report priests who had sexually abused minors, letting them stay in ministry and often continue to work with children.

Jeez, Klinker.  Try to be objective one in a while.  The Church did not actively work to facilitate pedophiles even if the unintended consequence of the way they handled pedophiles had that effect.

tjohn said:

Klinker said:
In Poland, like the US, the Church hierarchy actively worked to facilitate the attacks upon children.
In a report released during the Vatican meeting, Don’t Be Afraid listed 24 Polish bishops who, it said, failed to report priests who had sexually abused minors, letting them stay in ministry and often continue to work with children.

Jeez, Klinker.  Try to be objective one in a while.  The Church did not actively work to facilitate pedophiles even if the unintended consequence of the way they handled pedophiles had that effect.

Sorry but I’m solidly with Klinker on this one. 

Especially in cases where known pedeophiles were moved to new parishes, that was pretty active support. 

What could be more active support than continuing to supply a place to live, all meals, and a revered job for these pedophiles?  And the greatest bonus/perk of all:  access to a fresh batch of children!!! 

I'd call that active support, wouldn't you?

Many medical institutions require a second person be present when a Dr examines privates. Maybe the same should be when a priest does something like last rites:

Catholic priest arrested for groping woman while giving her last rites 

BG9 said:
Many medical institutions require a second person be present when a Dr examines privates. Maybe the same should be when a priest does something like last rites:
Catholic priest arrested for groping woman while giving her last rites 

 I wish I could say I was shocked by this.

Good news....

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/franciscan-friar-from-kenya-wins-1m-global-teacher-prize-72003

I read about that in a BBC article earlier in the week. It’s an outstanding program, apparently. 

Klinker said:

BG9 said:
Many medical institutions require a second person be present when a Dr examines privates. Maybe the same should be when a priest does something like last rites:
Catholic priest arrested for groping woman while giving her last rites 

 I wish I could say I was shocked by this.

I was serious.

Those getting last rites are often physically helpless and incapable of complaining. They're certainly in no position to complain after death. Its like abusing a 4 month old baby with the realization that the baby will not complain. 

For these perverts this is like taking candy from a baby.

Written in mid-twentieth century....

“Years ago atheism was an individual phenomenon; today atheism is social, the atheist who once was a curiosity, is now a component part of some of the governments of the world. Once men quarreled because they wanted God worshipped in a certain way; now they quarrel because they do not want God worshipped at all. The wars of religion of the seventeenth century have become the wars against religion of the twentieth century.” 
― Fulton J. Sheen

“Christianity, unlike any other religion in the world, begins with catastrophe and defeat. Sunshine religions and psychological inspirations collapse in calamity and wither in adversity. But the Life of the Founder of Christianity, having begun with the Cross, ends with the empty tomb and victory.” 
― Fulton J. Sheen

Written in 2015....

"What is my favorite book? The Bible! Nothing beats the Bible!"

-- Donald J Trump

Made fun of a disabled person in 2015....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA

-- Donald J Trump

Taking away health insurance from people with pre-existing conditions in 2019....

Luke 11:39-42

-- The Republican Party and the Religious Right

basil said:
Written in 2015....
"What is my favorite book? The Bible! Nothing beats the Bible!"
-- Donald J Trump

 Trump's favorite book may be the Bible, but the book he keeps in his bedside night table is a collection of speeches from Adolph Hitler.

https://forward.com/fast-forward/404111/gop-strategist-rehashes-trump-reads-hitler-charge-on-msnbc/

BG9 said:
I was serious.
Those getting last rites are often physically helpless and incapable of complaining. They're certainly in no position to complain after death. Its like abusing a 4 month old baby with the realization that the baby will not complain. 
For these perverts this is like taking candy from a baby.

 I was serious too.  Its pathetic the way this cycle of abuse goes on and on with no apparent end in sight.  Obviously, there is something VERY wrong with the system.

mtierney said:

Written in mid-twentieth century....
“Years ago atheism was an individual phenomenon; today atheism is social, the atheist who once was a curiosity, is now a component part of some of the governments of the world. Once men quarreled because they wanted God worshipped in a certain way; now they quarrel because they do not want God worshipped at all. The wars of religion of the seventeenth century have become the wars against religion of the twentieth century.” 
― Fulton J. Sheen
“Christianity, unlike any other religion in the world, begins with catastrophe and defeat. Sunshine religions and psychological inspirations collapse in calamity and wither in adversity. But the Life of the Founder of Christianity, having begun with the Cross, ends with the empty tomb and victory.” 
― Fulton J. Sheen

Fulton Sheen......

mtierney said:

“Christianity, unlike any other religion in the world, begins with catastrophe and defeat.

 If what is happening in America is any clue, it may be ending the way it started. Priests raping kids, evangelicals supporting pussy grabbers, loony tune evangelicals supporting Israel because they think doing so will bring about the rapture.....  it would be funny if so many real people weren't getting hurt.

"The wars of religion of the seventeenth century have become the wars against religion of the twentieth century."

Of course the "wars" against religion of the twentieth century are talking "wars."  The old school, real religious wars - between people of so called faith - were and are homicidal and often genocidal affairs.  And it wasn't limited to the 17th century.  The sad truth is that from almost the moment Christianity gained power in the Roman Empire, schisms and blood shed about doctrine erupted.

I guess all of the below history is better than atheists talking down religion because,  you know, these people sorta believed something when they were killing each other:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarian_violence_among_Christians

Klinker said:

BG9 said:
I was serious.
Those getting last rites are often physically helpless and incapable of complaining. They're certainly in no position to complain after death. Its like abusing a 4 month old baby with the realization that the baby will not complain. 
For these perverts this is like taking candy from a baby.

 I was serious too.  Its pathetic the way this cycle of abuse goes on and on with no apparent end in sight.  Obviously, there is something VERY wrong with the system.

I know you're serious.

When I made my "serious" comment it was for others who may think I was being snarky.

eyewash

https://thejesuitpost.org/2019/03/7-ways-that-opening-day-of-baseball-is-like-easter/

mtierney said:
eyewash
 

Clears the beams right out. 

Klinker said:

mtierney said:

“Christianity, unlike any other religion in the world, begins with catastrophe and defeat.

 If what is happening in America is any clue, it may be ending the way it started. Priests raping kids, evangelicals supporting pussy grabbers, loony tune evangelicals supporting Israel because they think doing so will bring about the rapture.....  it would be funny if so many real people weren't getting hurt.

 Klinker's favorite (in bold) expression.

lord_pabulum said:

Klinker said:

mtierney said:

“Christianity, unlike any other religion in the world, begins with catastrophe and defeat.

 If what is happening in America is any clue, it may be ending the way it started. Priests raping kids, evangelicals supporting pussy grabbers, loony tune evangelicals supporting Israel because they think doing so will bring about the rapture.....  it would be funny if so many real people weren't getting hurt.

 Klinker's favorite (in bold) expression.

 I'm just quoting the man (for lack of a better term).  If you don't like the phrase, take it up with Twitler.

Klinker said:
 I'm just quoting the man (for lack of a better term).  If you don't like the phrase, take it up with Twitler.

 So you like sinking to his level.  I get it.

Klinker said:

lord_pabulum said:

Klinker said:

mtierney said:

“Christianity, unlike any other religion in the world, begins with catastrophe and defeat.

 If what is happening in America is any clue, it may be ending the way it started. Priests raping kids, evangelicals supporting pussy grabbers, loony tune evangelicals supporting Israel because they think doing so will bring about the rapture.....  it would be funny if so many real people weren't getting hurt.

 Klinker's favorite (in bold) expression.

 I'm just quoting the man (for lack of a better term).  If you don't like the phrase, take it up with Twitler.

Selective cherrypicking quotes is so not cool —

 “Christianity, unlike any other religion in the world, begins with catastrophe and defeat. Sunshine religions and psychological inspirations collapse in calamity and wither in adversity. But the Life of the Founder of Christianity, having begun with the Cross, ends with the empty tomb and victory.” 
― Fulton J. Sheen

lord_pabulum said:

Klinker said:
 I'm just quoting the man (for lack of a better term).  If you don't like the phrase, take it up with Twitler.

 So you like sinking to his level.  I get it.

 Since when is calling someone out on their disgusting behavior "sinking to their level"?

To sink to Trump's level I would have to start sexually assaulting women.

mtierney said:

Selective cherrypicking quotes is so not cool —

Right.... cherrypicking..... because that quote doesn't describe the man's entire modus operandi?

The man's a pussy grabber, a serial cheater, the kind of guy who would try to set up a three way with a couple of porn stars and then try to sue them if they talked about it.  A scumbag in other words.

I guess he's just your kind of scumbag though, isn't he?  

mtierney said:

Selective cherrypicking quotes is so not cool —

Taking away health care from people who need it is so unchristian -- 

Washington gets archbishop....

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/archbishop-wilton-gregory-asked-to-lead-washington-archdiocese-41260

Jesus said (Matthew 25:40-46):

"Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me",

and to make it even more clear, just in case we misunderstood the first time,

"Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these you did not do for me. Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

America, on the other hand, is putting them in concentration camps.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/us/el-paso-immigration-photo.html