Switch from Comm College to 4 yr?
The challenge is that he'll have a better chance at the schools which have higher rates of attrition - enrolled students who choose not to continue, opening up seats that the institution will want to fill. Then again, you have to ask yourself, if people are leaving that institution in high numbers, why do you want to take their place?
The only way to know for certain is to go for it, and apply to a few. I think the more selective SUNY schools (Stony Brook, Albany, Binghamton, Buffalo, Geneseo, New Paltz) might be off the table, but others could be within reach.
boomie said:
is he going to college in NY? Tuition is only free for residents.
IIRC the nephew is a resident of New York.
There are also income limitations to receive the free tuition.
spontaneous said:
boomie said:
is he going to college in NY? Tuition is only free for residents.
IIRC the nephew is a resident of New York.
the free tuition is not a concern. He is eligible for it and if not, his college will be paid for.
The question is around transferring to a 4 year SUNY school after 1 year without having “hit it out of the park” grade-wise first semester. I know transfers are fairly easy and almost guaranteed within the CUNY/SUNY system after 2 years/60 credits but he wants to go away badly now. And that’s what I wanted him to do all along (and what would be best for him). He got it in his head last year that he was going to CA to attend community college and live with a girl he met on-line. I didn’t like that idea for him for many reasons ( cost, perfectly good community college here, not ready to live fully on his own, girl wasn’t going to attend college, so on). He got pissy about not being allowed to do that so he refused to consider the dorm school options I wanted. And he really couldn’t get in to any of them with his grades from HD and refusal to make much effort ( essay). But now he’s had a change of heart.
He needs to contact admissions offices of the colleges he's interested in and talk to them. Make appointments. visit. Sit down and talk with admissions counselors. That's the only way he will find information and answers to this question.
that’s one option. Before that though, before getting his hopes high, I’d like to hear any experiences with the 1st year transfer thing, in general.
I'm sure it's not that hard to do, depending on the competitiveness of each school. He could likely come to CSI pretty easily.
that’s good to know and your dorms there were beautiful. Since he’s open to this now, I think I can sway him to look at a few schools with me.
why doesn't he speak to his current professors and guidance where he goes now. I would think they would have the best advice on how to go about it - AND if it is a good option for him at this time.
he could but do you think they’d be the best source of advice?
Won’t they sort of have the slant of “stay 2 years at our school”?
And while 2 years there probably gives him the best options for transfer, his living situation makes it much safer and more desirable to get him out of his house ASAP so I’d like to make that happen if at all possible. He’s not a great student and it doesn’t have to be some great school he’d transfer to. Any SUNY/ 4 yr school with a campus/ dorm setting will do.
I guess my best bet is to have him look into the same SUNY schools with low admissions criteria and see what would have to be different for admission to be a yes as a 1 year transfer
If he's now open to visiting some 4-year schools, could the questions be asked while he's there for the tour-and-sales-pitch? Surely they've encountered this situation before. Or a phone call, from him, or from you to prepare the way....
The larger SUNY campuses with the highest attrition rates (vacated seats they need to fill) might include Brockport, Oswego, Fredonia, Buffalo State and Potsdam, so looking at those might be a start as well as places already suggested, such as CSI
Yes, very helpful. I’ll start here! Thank you
apple44 said:
The larger SUNY campuses with the highest attrition rates (vacated seats they need to fill) might include Brockport, Oswego, Fredonia, Buffalo State and Potsdam, so looking at those might be a start as well as places already suggested, such as CSI
He has only been at this college a few months. Let him concentrate on his studies and at least complete one year. See how he feels in the spring.If he wants to move to another college then have him apply.
Well, I didn’t say THAT 
He doesn’t hate it with the same passion he hates everything else. Lol Seriously, he gets up every class to go without anyone pushing him, often asks to go early and seems to be diligent about doing all the work. But he says “it sucks” if you ask him if he likes it. Spending 4 days at UMass this weekend made him text me about transferring to a school where he can live there so this is 100x the progress we’ve ever had before.
boomie said:
I am so glad to hear he likes college, no matter which one it is.
galileo said:
He has only been at this college a few months. Let him concentrate on his studies and at least complete one year. See how he feels in the spring.If he wants to move to another college then have him apply.
You can't apply in the spring and get into college for the Fall, can you?
He would absolutely finish the full year at community college but if he wants to make a move for Fall 2018, he's likely got to decide and apply this winter. Correct me if I'm wrong
yea, it really, really is. I want to build on the momentum. His mother is still an *** and treats him like crap. I thought that might get better since he was in college but it's no different and more toxic than ever so I really want him out. The only good part is he's been closer than ever to the little ones past year so that part of living at home is good.
He can't pass his road test either which has been an issue and keeps him more home bound than I'd like. 4th try next week and he's had some extra lessons this month so maybe 4th time's a charm! He's worked at same place for about a year now and is very diligent about it so that keeps him busy too which is good.
It astounds me how similar he still is to my son. Going on 4rth time next week. He panics at the time of testing.
aw, sorry. Poor kids. I'm not sure what's happening with him. He doesn't like the whole idea of driving- another reason why dorm life might be better for him. But it's a life skill he needs whether he wants to drive or not. Hopefully, he'll just pass and get it over with so it isn't hanging over his head. His grandmother driving him to/ from college isn't exactly swelling his self- esteem.
He might have trouble transferring credits after one year. When they do the two year Community College thing, they take it as a whole and let them become Juniors. When they go at other times, they might look at individual classes and not take those for requirements. My son transfereed after two years of a New Jersey state school to another state school and lost so many credits he has to stay an extra year. He would have been better off going to community college.
yes, this is somewhat of a concern although I don't care all that much if he'd even start over as a freshman.
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nephew adjusted pretty well so far to college. He attends local community college while living at home, has been very conscientious about attending every class on time every week. He’s doing as well as he can- probably will wind up with Bs and maybe a couple of Cs (he’s guessing here- only had a few papers so far). He has visited a few friends away at college this year and really wants that dorm life experience for himself.
I know that if he does decently for 2 years, it’s almost open admission to many SUNY schools. But how feasible after year 1? His HS grades were pretty bad- barely passed a few subjects. Low SAT scores.