Sustainable Essex Alliance Energy Program

Apollo_T

So what happened at last night's sales extravaganza?


joan_crystal

Available on the town's you tube channel.  Meeting took about an hour.


jfburch

As for the opt out:  It's a behavioral economics thing.  Requires more work and thought, but still allows choice.

I think they figured that some savings and more renewable energy were good things, so the opt out nudges people to go with it--can't hurt, will help (especially the social good of renewable)--and tends to make the pool larger.

I don't mind it at all for "good" things.  More problematic for things that are not benign or favorable to me or social goods.


tjohn

I opted out of the whole climate change hoax.  I figure other people can worry about it if it is even real.


ridski
tjohn said:
I opted out of the whole climate change hoax.  I figure other people can worry about it if it is even real.

 I did the same thing with Snapchat.


yahooyahoo

This program is a good thing.  I see no need for people to opt out.


Apollo_T
yahooyahoo said:
This program is a good thing.  I see no need for people to opt out.

 If it’s a “good” thing then they will earn opt-ins, rather than having our plos dictate their values down our throat.


yahooyahoo

Nothing will change at your home except your bill will be a little less.  How is this dictating values?  We are sourcing an improved product, IMHO, at a lower price.



bak

Do we need to opt-out if we're not interested?  If so, how?  TIA


joan_crystal

You should have received a letter explaining the program which included an opt out card.  Mail in the opt out card and you will be removed from the participant pool.  If you did not receive the letter, you were either (a) not sent a letter (persons with third party supplier contracts currently in effect were automatically opted out); or (b) the letter either got lost in the mail or was recycled without being opened.  In the latter case, call or visit town hall for information on how to opt out.  There is a very short window for opting out so be sure to follow up ASAP.


Robert_Casotto

I’d follow up to the vendor itself to confirm via email.  If we were opted in to this without our consent, wouldn’t be surprised if our opt out notice magically arrives late or becomes “lost”.


nohero
Robert_Casotto said:
I’d follow up to the vendor itself to confirm via email.  If we were opted in to this without our consent, wouldn’t be surprised if our opt out notice magically arrives late or becomes “lost”.

In the program summary on the back of the first page, it says "you may still leave [the program] at any time".


susan1014
joan_crystal said:
 Dave:  We were among the last to be restored after Sandy.  The unluckiest among us were without power for close to two weeks!  This was because PSE&G focused on the areas with the densest population first; not because we had residents using third party energy suppliers.  As stated above, PSE&G provides energy through its infrastructure.  It does not manufacture energy.  It purchases it through a network of providers.

 We were out for 13 long days after Sandy too.  But it wasn’t because of a focus on denser areas.  It was because we were a single house outage with a problem that needed a pole climber to reconnect.  Someone from PSEG was at our property almost every day after the first two - I always ran out to talk to them.  Some were crews with the wrong talents, some were administrators checking to see if we still had a problem.  To me, it was clear that they had major information systems issues and were having trouble tracking what was needed.


I see nothing in my experience to make me avoid a slightly cheaper, somewhat greener switch.


yahooyahoo
Robert_Casotto said:
I’d follow up to the vendor itself to confirm via email.  If we were opted in to this without our consent, wouldn’t be surprised if our opt out notice magically arrives late or becomes “lost”.

I guess it's all a big conspiracy designed to save you some money.  How dare they!!!


Robert_Casotto

Good luck spending your extra 8 bucks a month.


Apollo_T

We just found out that we weren,t opted out despite seending in the appropriate form in timely fashion.  Anyone else have thi# problem.

@yahooyahoo...why are you pimping fo4 this so hard?


joan_crystal
Apollo_T said:
We just found out that we weren,t opted out despite seending in the appropriate form in timely fashion.  Anyone else have thi# problem.
@yahooyahoo...why are you pimping fo4 this so hard?

If you are not already in a contract with another third party energy provider or have solar energy or similar, it is a pretty good deal.  Cleaner energy + lower cost.  That said, if you sent in the opt out card in a timely fashion, you should not have been enrolled in the program.


oots
Apollo_T said:
We just found out that we weren,t opted out despite seending in the appropriate form in timely fashion.  Anyone else have thi# problem.
@yahooyahoo...why are you pimping fo4 this so hard?

 how do you know?

does it say on a pseg bill?


I opted out


Apollo_T

@oots,

We rec'd a letter from PSEG this AM confirming our enrollment.  ltr was dated 6/14.


oots
Apollo_T said:
@oots,
We rec'd a letter from PSEG this AM confirming our enrollment.  ltr was dated 6/14.

 Thanks 

So far we have not received such a notification from Pseg 


yahooyahoo
Apollo_T said:
We just found out that we weren,t opted out despite seending in the appropriate form in timely fashion.  Anyone else have thi# problem.
@yahooyahoo...why are you pimping fo4 this so hard?

Why are you opting out of something that's cheaper and better for the environment?


Klinker

Reading through this thread I am really struck by how little people trust PSEG. 


Apollo_T

Why are you evading my question like a sleezy politician?t




DaveSchmidt

It’s cheaper and better for the environment.

ETA: Also, it raised my chances of getting an accurate letter from PSE&G.


yahooyahoo
Apollo_T said:
Why are you evading my question like a sleezy politician?t

Let me spell it out for you.  It's cheaper and better for the environment.


Apollo_T

justhow much direct personal experience do you have with residential prrograms like this?


Robert_Casotto

I’m planning on using my theoretical 8 bucks a month in savings to start a vacation fund.  


nohero
Robert_Casotto said:
I’m planning on using my theoretical 8 bucks a month in savings to start a vacation fund.  

 You were away for three weeks!  Did you reach the end of a "time out" or something?


Robert_Casotto

you keep a spreadsheet on this stuff?  creepy, bro.


nohero
Robert_Casotto said:
you keep a spreadsheet on this stuff?  creepy, bro.

 No, bro.  it just seemed less annoying around here the last few weeks, so I checked.

That's a picture of what MOL shows of anybody's posts.



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