President Carter Slams Bush, Cheney archived
Oct 11, 2007 at 7:16am Edited
Posted By: BagboySounds like Carter should run in 2008!
lord have mercy.... :shocked:
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Posted By: innisowenBut what a boon for the cardigan sweater market.
And Exxon/Mobil! :wink:
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And lust in the heart.
I think it is pretty poor when Carter has to carry the argument for the Democratic Party because the leadership is so scared about appearing soft on terrorism.
I think it is pretty poor when Carter has to carry the argument for the Democratic Party because the leadership is so scared about appearing soft on terrorism.
Posted By: innisowenBut what a boon for the cardigan sweater market.
:rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling:
mfpark has it right.
Carter has the "couillons" to say what Hopeless Harry and Not-a-sound Nancy should be saying.
They should take the bull by the horns and run the Republican party into the dirt. Then the people who voted out the Republicans in 2006 will know that they received some value for those few precious seconds in the voting booth.
Carter has the "couillons" to say what Hopeless Harry and Not-a-sound Nancy should be saying.
They should take the bull by the horns and run the Republican party into the dirt. Then the people who voted out the Republicans in 2006 will know that they received some value for those few precious seconds in the voting booth.
Either that, or they should advocate the use of waterboarding, head-slapping, and freezing temps as acceptable in all interrogations--such as to get Gonzalez to give information.
Posted By: innisowenmfpark has it right.
Carter has the "couillons" to say what Hopeless Harry and Not-a-sound Nancy should be saying.
They should take the bull by the horns and run the Republican party into the dirt. Then the people who voted out the Republicans in 2006 will know that they received some value for those few precious seconds in the voting booth.
Heck, we are still waiting for those two to honor their campaign promises of 06....as usual Carter is breaking the cardinal rule of ex-POTUS....
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Cheney spokeswoman Megan Mitchell declined to speak to Carter 's allegations.
"We're not going to engage in this kind of rhetoric," she said.
Of course not. They're civilized people. (Choke, guffaw, choke.)
"We're not going to engage in this kind of rhetoric," she said.
Of course not. They're civilized people. (Choke, guffaw, choke.)
I don't care that he slams Bush/Cheney. He's an American and can say what he wants to say. He's entitled to his foolish, felatious opinions. He's pretty irrelevant in my opinion.
A Cheney supporter! Quick, snap a picture -- this is something to tell the grandkids about one day!
Posted By: pangeaHe's entitled to his foolish, felatious opinions.
I'm not sure I want to know what "felatious" means...
:shocked:
Posted By: Tom ReingoldWhat do you mean, "as usual"?
It is common courtesy for an ex-POTUS to refrain from criticzing the current administration in public...but hey, Carter loves the limelight too much...
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The only time anyone mentions the "rule" that a former president should not comment on the current administration, is when a Democrat criticizes a Republican.
Posted By: noheroThe only time anyone mentions the "rule" that a former president should not comment on the current administration, is when a Democrat criticizes a Republican.
Because it seems like it is only the Dems who have trouble following the rule, duh.
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I believe Ford had some choice words about Nixon. Some could not be published, I understand. (Words to the effect, "I wish I hadn't pardoned the s** of a b****") How's that for criticism?
Posted By: scrotisloknowsBecause it seems like it is only the Dems who have trouble following the rule, duh.
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I think Carter believes, as most of the world seems to, that there's really not much that can be done about many of the world's most urgent issues until we get W out of the White House. While ex-Presidents generally refrain from criticizing their successors, it's hard to imagine a president less entitled to that consideration than this one.
Any kind, intelligent person -- and Peace Prize winning Jimmy Carter certainly qualifies -- needs to vocally criticize George W. Bush for now and forever, so we never have to live through an administration as miserable as this has been ever again.
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"Our country for the first time in my life time has abandoned the basic principle of human rights," Carter said on CNN. "We've said that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to those people in Abu Ghraib prison and Guantanamo, and we've said we can torture prisoners and deprive them of an accusation of a crime."
Bush, responding to an Oct. 4 report by The New York Times on secret Justice Department memorandums supporting the use of "harsh interrogation techniques," defended the techniques Friday by proclaiming: "This government does not torture people."
Carter said the interrogation methods cited by the Times, including "head-slapping, simulated drowning and frigid temperatures," constitute torture "if you use the international norms of torture as has always been honored _ certainly in the last 60 years since the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was promulgated.
"But you can make your own definition of human rights and say we don't violate them, and you can make your own definition of torture and say we don't violate them," Carter said.
In an interview that aired Wednesday on BBC, Carter ripped Vice President Dick Cheney as "a militant who avoided any service of his own in the military."
Carter went on to say Cheney has been "a disaster for our country. I think he's been overly persuasive on President George Bush."
Cheney spokeswoman Megan Mitchell declined to speak to Carter 's allegations.
"We're not going to engage in this kind of rhetoric," she said.
In the CNN interview, the Democratic former president disparaged the field of Republican presidential candidates.
"They all seem to be outdoing each other in who wants to go to war first with Iran, who wants to keep Guantanamo open longer and expand its capacity _ things of that kind," Carter said.
He said he also disagreed with positions taken by Democratic Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who have declined to promise to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq over the following four years if elected president next year.